who of those guys can do the most damage with only one clear fist ?

SH wedges in the list above Hercules but we still have no proof that she's stronger than the others above Herc (although she may well be).

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
SH wedges in the list above Hercules but we still have no proof that she's stronger than the others above Herc (although she may well be).

Youre right x 🙂

Classic Thor and herc are shown in the comics to be on a par in terms of strength, so she hulk showing she's considerably stronger than him, while wearing her jupiter suit might i add, suggests that she's stronger than thor as well.

Personally id say she's stronger than all but the likes of classic juggs, an enraged hulk, drax and gladiator. Being able to defeat the likes of thor is another matter entirely because her durability hasnt increased, nor have her fighting skils.

Gladiator. He's smashed a planet to pieces and moved asteroids.

Remember that Thor is only equal to Herc because of his belt of strength.... 🙂

Gladiator will deliver the hardest punch here.

Thor has been shown to be equal to herc without any belt of strenght. Well the marvel version. The myth one he always used it and Heracles still had better feats of that nature without any belt or whatsoever 😉

Glads if hes confident i agree. With herc and Thor behind.

Isn't Momentum something do with mass and the speed you are moving at. The greater the mass and speed you are travelling at, the greater your momentum.

Isn't Juggs supposed be an irresistible force. This suggests he's packing some serious mass when he is moving, as he is never travelling that fast. With this in mind i bet he can pack one hell of a punch especially when he is in his Eighth day form which is quoted as being 100 times stronger than his normal classic form.

This theory though is probably not accurate as there is little evidence to suggest that it is the case. It's just a thought though. It's kinda like the flashes Infinite Mass punch.

I'll still go with Eighth Day Juggernaut as he is 100 times stronger than his regular form, and the Hulk has to be pretty mad to even match that.

Hulk is definitely a Close second as i can think of two references of his punches being compared to Nukes.

Glads, Hercules and Thor are all pretty well trained but have never really shown power on that level. Except Glads who did destroy a planet but i kinda of see that as a one off.

Isn't the recent form of Herc a powered down version? I heard he is less strong than Thor but was matched by the new She Hulk in a arm wrestle.

Yeah until the recent Hercules mini by Tieri ( 3 issues already out of 5 ) he has been powered down and mortal. At first it was stated in his fight against the Hulk- the one he lost in Herc/Hulk unleashed. That all his powers wer cut in half by Zeus.

The 3 issue mini he had after that -around 97- suports that statement. His fight against the Thunderbolts and helping the Avengers against exemplars all have statements by him and other characters that he wasent all powerful anymore.

Later showings changed that a bit. Hes still mortal, but his strengh was written back as he was 100 class in Thor`s comic.

But still without the durability, stamina, invulnerability he once had.

The She-Hulk case is blurry. Slott didnt stated if he was writting a mortal Herc with strengh down or with his strengh the same but the rest down.

And Jugs main asset its his durability. No one beats him at that. I consider immortal Herc and classic Thor slighty above since Thor was able to hurt him physically before without the hammer.

I thought the fight with Juggernaut had more to do with speed and skill rather than actual strength. Juggs has never been the most mobile character and the state of shock he was in after he lost his forcefield kinda gave the advantage to Thor.

Against Eighth Day Juggs Thor literally got his assed Kicked. I reckon this version of Juggernaut is kinda in there with the Ultra heavy weights. E.g. Nefaria Onslaught, Rage hulk, Drax and Champion with the power gem, Full power destroyer, The Exiles Hyperion.

You know a Kinda of Despero, Doomsday, Cyborg Superman Level.

Eightday Jugs is a whole another game. He is a total monster on the level of Desespero.

Regular Jugs can be beat tho, and feel physical pain. And thats both Thor and Herc`s game 😉

Without Moljnir Thor has no chance
Herc has more of a chance. He's definitely stronger than Juggs but i don't think he has the power to break that force field thingy he has. Not even the God Force could do that and Herc's Fists are not on par with that.

What Juggernaut are we referring to.
I thought it was Eighth Day.

In raw punching strength Hulk has definitely got some Punching Feats to suggest that he throws the strongest ones

This thread has both Jugs version. The 8 day one and regular one.

Jugs surviving the god force its a durability feat.

Hulk has some mad punching feats but he isent above Thor or Herc. Both of them and have also sent him flying and give him pain. The 3 of them are evenly matched. So my list probably goes like this:

8th day jugs
Gladiator
Herc/thor/savage Hulk
regular jugs
regular Abom( its regular right?)
the rest

What makes you think that Glad is above Herc?

Is the mindless Hulk the same as the Onslaught Saga one

Is Abomination and Thing really capable of making an earthquake big enough to be measured on the Richter scale?

Probably not.

My point about the God Force is that Hercs would be unlikely to Hurt Juggs if he created the same Force field again.

I dont think he is. In fact combat wise i put him lower than Herc.

Thing is i have to be fair. He was shown to have smashed a small planet and at marvel we didnt saw Herc doing that yet. Just lifting ones.

Altho thinking again....he has plenetary feats wich means if you have strenght to lift something that have then you have also to destroy it.

Make it : Herc/Thor/Savage/Glads to be more accurate. And again its my take as i see it.

"Is the mindless Hulk the same as the Onslaught Saga one"

im not sure. I ranted the savage one because its the one i know.

And jugs force field its what makes him so tough. strenght to strenght its another thing.

There is no doubt that Gladiator once did destroy a planetoid with his strength. I see this as kinda of a dubious feat as he has never shown strength on that level since. He would have literally knocked Hulks and Thor's heads off he had that type of strength

I see it as a kinda Extreme Power Display which is really down to bad writing and shouldn't really be seen as an accurate account of his strength.

When did Herc lift the Planet? I've heard peps suggesting he could lift Manhattan and he once helped Atlas lift the heavens.

There are two versions, both Greek of Heracles and Atlas. One is helding the heavens. The other is helding in his back the earth.

Both arent far fetched. Heracles strengh is mythical. Doesnt need to be limited by science laws. And Both the heavens and earth wer in the Greeck mythology the physical manifestations of both Gaea and Uranos. Elder Gods and the first two beings to be born from Chaos who was the primordial force of the universe.

If he helds one, its possible to held another. They had the same importance.

About lifting Manhatan im sure he can. At Dc he liftet Paradise Island, home of the Dc Amazons without breaking a sweat. And at marvel he dragged it over the ocean.