These Guys VS. The JLA & JSA
Who takes it?
Roster:
These guys:
Captain Marvel(Genis)
Namor
Savage Hulk
Dr. Strange
Thanos
Silver Surfer
Daredevil
Spiderman
VS.
JLA:
Batman
Superman
Martian Manhunter
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern John
Green Lantern Kyle Rayner
Zatanna
JSA:
Sentinel Alan Scott
Captain Marvel
Atom Smasher
Wildcat
Starman
Star Spangled Kid
Black Canary
I think this fight comes down to Dr. Strange, Thanos, Siver Surfer. If they can prove to be as tough as these guys as some of the Marvel heros then they have 55% chance of winning. If Zattana can hold back the good Doctor then this will porobably go to DC about 65%.
Overall a very close fight if you ask me.
Between Strange and Zatanna, whoever gets off the spell first, will be the deciding factor.
Then you basically have Captain Marvel(Genis), Surfer and Thanos vs Captain Marvel(real), Superman, GL(John, Kyle), Martian Manhunter, Starman, Star Spangled Kid and Sentinel.
Namor, Hulk, Daredevil and Spiderman beats Wonder Woman, Atom Smasher, Wildcat, Black Canary, and Batman.
Like i said before, whoever gets off the first spell between Strange and Zatanna is the deciding factor in the fight.
And by the way Sentry, where is that pic from? Comic and issue #?
I think that Wonder Woman can defeat Namor. but Hulk together with Namor will defeat her. Spider-Man is actually stronger then Atom Smasher, AS can lift about three tons, if I am sure. Daredevil can go with Wildcat and if he doesn't defeat gim, Spider-Man can help. Black Canary is an threat to Daredevil with her sonic cry, but Spider-Man or some others can defeat her rather easily. Anybody except Daredevil can beat Batman.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I think that Wonder Woman can defeat Namor. but Hulk together with Namor will defeat her. Spider-Man is actually stronger then Atom Smasher, AS can lift about three tons, if I am sure. Daredevil can go with Wildcat and if he doesn't defeat gim, Spider-Man can help. Black Canary is an threat to Daredevil with her sonic cry, but Spider-Man or some others can defeat her rather easily. Anybody except Daredevil can beat Batman.
The WW Namor fight could go either way, but ill go with Namor in that one. Actually DarkCrawler, Atom Smasher couild lift way more than 3 tons. Dont forget that when he increases his size, hes in the 100 class. Also, Daredevil has as much chance as anyone else to beat Batman. Hes faired well against him before. I wouldnt count DD out. Unless Canary does the sonic scream that is.
Too many threats on the DC team and are 3 Green Lanterns sitting on there.Zatanna will never beat Dr.Stange but she doesnt really have to so long as she can keep him from smacking the whole team down at once
Beyond that Giant green boxing gloves Steamrollers and several hundred green paperboys throwing thermonuclear powered newspapers come in followed by multiple super-speedster and the rather easy to underestimate power of Starman/Stargirls rods
Sure the Marvel team doesnt fall easy with that line-up but they fall eentually
Originally posted by jrodslam
As experienced, faster, but i doubt shes stronger.
She kept an angelic warship from falling down, something that was bigger then the city they were in.
The strength of the Earth is truly held within Diana of Themyscira. Diana ranks right up there with Superman himself in terms of raw strength and power. She can literally measure her strength in the several hundred thousand of tons. She can pick juggle cars with ease, pick up airplanes, move entire buildings, and hardly even blink at the effort. She also has a level of invulnerability equal to her raw strength, however this can only apply to blunt force attacks. Drop a building on her? She's coming back for more. Going hand to hand? Unless you're someone of equvilent or superior strength level, there's not much of a chance for injury. Though swords, bullets, and other piercing weapons will definitely make their mark. Diana bleeds. She bruises. She hurts. But it just takes a lot of damage to accomplish it, or well-placed attacks.Also granted through her strength of the Earth is amazing stamina and endurance. Diana can keep going where others would have long sense given up or simply been betrayed by their own bodies. She can literally fight for hours with little strain. She can swim great distances, hold her breath in measurements that can be taken in the several of minutes at a time, she could run a hundred mile marathon before breakfast. It also comes in hand with simple things too...Diana's daily life is filled with duties from practically sunrise to sunset. Its a pace of living that very few could hope to keep up and still retain their health and sanity. As it is, Diana is not generally prone to disease, ill health, or other such detriments. She is as steady and enduring as her patrons would wish her to be for her mission.
Wonder Woman is not in the same strength league as Superman. Only MM and CM are. She and Aquaman are about the same level of strength. She may be slightly above him though.
Namor has hit the ground and make an earthquake for miles. Wonder Woman juggling cars, picking up airplanes etc are great feats of strength, but an oil tanker is no small feat either.
MM is normally cl 70? Where did you get that from? You say WW is stronger than Captain Marvel, But Captain Marvel is equal to Superman in strength. And we all know Wonder Woman isnt equal to Superman in strength.
If Superman is 100 cl and Captain Marvel and MM is equal in strength to Superman, that would make CM and MM 100 cl as well.
But if WW is not where near Superman in strength that would make her 90-95 cl correct? Even if MM can adjust his strength to 100 cl, hes still in that cl. Ive never heard of him being only 70 though.
And i heard that the fight with CM and WW was interrupted. Im not sure on how true that is, but thats what i heard.
Forgot, it was fifty tons.
Yet, J'onn can with concentration align his cells along with shifting their density for the function of performing great physical feats of strength and durability. While generally his Martian cells enable him to lift in excess of fifty tons, with concentration he can temporarily will himself to higher levels. To those even on par with Superman, yet for far shorter periods of time due to the extreme mental strain it requires. Likewise, he can alter the density of his body to take a great deal of physical punishment as he can go dense enough to become bulletproof, for example. Yet, he can also alter his body to allow bullet to pass through him, yet there are time when the added oomph are needed, such as were he to get hit by a moving bus and needed to be able to remaining standing afterwards.
Wonder Woman is Class 100. Airplanes weight more then 100 tons. Buildings do. The angelic warship weighed hundreds of thousands of tons.
The strength of the Earth is truly held within Diana of Themyscira.Diana ranks right up there with Superman himself in terms of raw strength and power. She can literally measure her strength in the several hundred thousand of tons. She can pick juggle cars with ease, pick up airplanes, move entire buildings, and hardly even blink at the effort. She also has a level of invulnerability equal to her raw strength, however this can only apply to blunt force attacks. Drop a building on her? She's coming back for more. Going hand to hand? Unless you're someone of equvilent or superior strength level, there's not much of a chance for injury. Though swords, bullets, and other piercing weapons will definitely make their mark. Diana bleeds. She bruises. She hurts. But it just takes a lot of damage to accomplish it, or well-placed attacks.
Captain Marvel is slightly weaker then Superman.
Captain Marvel is superhumanly strong, possessing the Strength of Hercules. He can easily lift cars, trucks, and even heavy aircraft over his head without straining. While not as strong as Superman, he is definitely on par with the Man of Steel and those at the top of the 'muscle' heap. In more quantifiable terms, at full power Captain Marvel can lift in the area of 195,000 tons without significant effort, and maintain it for at least twenty hours or more, before tiring extensively.
Superman can lift 250,000 tons. He and WW are stronger then CM.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Forgot, it was fifty tons.Wonder Woman is Class 100. Airplanes weight more then 100 tons. Buildings do. The angelic warship weighed hundreds of thousands of tons.
Captain Marvel is slightly weaker then Superman.
Superman can lift 250,000 tons. He and WW are stronger then CM.
Regardless of MM augmenting his strength, he still achieves the 100cl rank and is put there.
Only 2 heroes have been said to be Supermans equal in strength and thats Captain Marvel and Martian Manhunter.
Comics and books have stated CM and Superman to be equals in strength. Captain Marvel has never been said to be weaker than Superman. None have i seen say WW is equal to Supes in Strength. If indeed there are books or comics that say, Then you cant say WW > CM in strength.
Where are those quotes from?
Brave and the Bold, It has really much information about almost every major DC character:
http://braveandthebold.net/characters/3507.html
Just click on traits section. And then Magic.