Look at my posts, I am not antagonistic and may have falsely assumed that you were. That WTF changes the connotation of a conversation sometimes.
But in response, WHY did Obi-Wans and Yodas spirite age? Just because someone makes bad decisions, doesnt mean that their spirit will "pause" until they die...
Their spirits didn't age. They did. That's what I said in my first big post. They looked as they did when they died. Now, so does Anakin in GL's eyes/mind/story. Anakin died in Episode 3 as far as Lucas is concerned.
I asked how a dormant spirit would age. I was referring to the dormant spirit of Anakin Skywalker that was trapped within Darth Vader.
YES!!! Changing all of them would have been a cool nod to the prequels, as if Anakins redemption helped ALL of them!!
Let me restate that I initially thought "wow! cool!" at the change, and understand from the point of view that we have a connection to Haydens Ani, and not Sebastion Shaws, but I don't by that his spirit was "on hold" for 20 some odd years. In fact, I think the epiphany that he has at the end of ROTJ puts him at the most focused point of his life.
Maybe an age-progression shot of Hayden would have worked perfectly....
Originally posted by kremzikeBut Anakin IS Darth Vader!!!!!! Evil or not, Vader still had a spirit!! The same one he was born (and died )with!!
Their spirits didn't age. They did. That's what I said in my first big post. They looked as they did when they died. Now, so does Anakin in GL's eyes/mind/story. Anakin died in Episode 3 as far as Lucas is concerned.I asked how a dormant spirit would age. I was referring to the dormant spirit of Anakin Skywalker that was trapped within Darth Vader.
Originally posted by Darth Plagueis
But Anakin IS Darth Vader!!!!!! Evil or not, Vader still had a spirit!! The same one he was born (and died )with!!
Lucas disagrees. That's why he did what's caused this discussion in the first place. I'm not saying it wouldn't make sense if it remained unchanged or anything. But the fact is that once he established the PT, this is what the man who decides what is in Star Wars is saying. Everybody can have theories & their own explanations for whatever saga monets they see fit, but as the saga stands now, the man who created it says that Anakin's redeemed spirit is the one that died when he turned to the dark side, which does fall in line to what Obi-Wan told Luke in ROTJ. It's just that now we have the visual representation of that man who "ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader" and GL has shown us that he becomes that man once again when he joins the force.
Hmmmm how about that? Maybe he wasn't fully redeemed until the life left his body, eh? That could work as an explanation of why Sebastian Shaw is in the suit & Hayden Christensen is now the spirit. I'm not sayi9ng this is my feeling or theory or whatever because it's not necessary. Like I said, everyone can have their own theories about why things are the way they are, but what you can't dispute is what GL gives us as fact. He sticks Hayden's head on the Shaw-spirit body, so that makes it fact in the saga.
I think they should have put him closer to the others. Yoda and Obi look like they were stuck together, whereas Anakin is about one step away. I still think George should have put two versions on DVD, 'cause the future generations will never be able to see the movies how we loved them and made them a cult in the first place.
However, talking for myself, I'd have to say that scene makes much sense now, I like it a lot. 🙂