Obi and Yoda

Started by Ast Rofan8 pages

Forget it...

You know how many openings there are in every single star wars duels? Tons!!!

True but when your in a life or death duel you wouldn't see all the openings coming at you.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
You wanna go on with the Anakin and Obi-Wan duel? Fine, Obi-Wan was trained in the force correct. So since he is powerful in the force he can see into the future. Follow me, but the darkside clouds everything. Obi could atleast see what his opponent could do that's why he would be such a good fighter against Grievous but Dooku proved stronger then Obi by defeating him.
So since Obi and Anakin were trained to do that wouldn't they do better in the past say when they teamed up on Dooku. So why was their duel so much bigger and since Obi-Wan seemed to be better trained at the time he could have defeated him as soon as anakin did his backflip if Obi felt like it.

Obi-Wan could sense the moves coming, that is correct, but so could Dooku and Anakin. Another one of your theories debunked.

During the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel they both had Force-Sense, they could both mimic each others lightsaber styles. They were evenly matched.

Obi-Wan had his training, which was far superior to Anakins, but Anakin had his rage and the Dark-Side plus he is altogether more powerful with the Force.

Come on man, give me something that I can't answer, this is too easy.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
Would Anakin truely been able to block something upside down while trying to focus on landing facing Obi?

Yes he could, he is powerful with the Force, but his hate had made him careless.

Answer this then. If Anakin could see what's to happen next why did he try jump over Obi. Don't say it's because he's pissed because someone who is compeletly mad keeps common sense and trying to prove that was stupid showing Anakin is as good as Obi because if it wasn't the jump Anakin would have made a mistake sooner then Obi.

I ment Anakin trying to show that he's as good as Obi

Originally posted by General Zodiac
Answer this then. If Anakin could see what's to happen next why did he try jump over Obi. Don't say it's because he's pissed because someone who is compeletly mad keeps common sense and trying to prove that was stupid showing Anakin is as good as Obi because if it wasn't the jump Anakin would have made a mistake sooner then Obi.

No, someone that far enraged does NOT have any common sense left at the moment. Why do you think people do such stupid things in real life when they're pissed.

Anakin was determined not to give up, and was blinded enough by his anger and confident that he would win that he did it anyway.

People do stupid things cause they're stupid and wasn't taught better.

No, people do stupid things because they're pissed and their sense of rational thinking is clouded by their anger. Plenty of smart people do idiotic things while angered.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
Answer this then. If Anakin could see what's to happen next why did he try jump over Obi. Don't say it's because he's pissed because someone who is compeletly mad keeps common sense and trying to prove that was stupid showing Anakin is as good as Obi because if it wasn't the jump Anakin would have made a mistake sooner then Obi.
Lana is right, you are completely mistaken. Someone 'completely mad' is NOT going to keep common sense. If anything, they are the most likely to LOSE common sense.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
Answer this then. If Anakin could see what's to happen next why did he try jump over Obi. Don't say it's because he's pissed because someone who is compeletly mad keeps common sense and trying to prove that was stupid showing Anakin is as good as Obi because if it wasn't the jump Anakin would have made a mistake sooner then Obi.

Force-Sense is not a certain thing. Remember Yoda in ESB, "Always in motion the future is".

If Force-Sense could tell you everylast thing that would happen to you, do you think Qui-Gon would have left his chest open to Darth Maul? Would Ki-Adi Mundi have kept his back turned against the Clonetroopers until it was too late? Would Plo Koon have stayed on target and let the Clone in the starfighter blow him out of the sky? No! they would have gone to safety, or in Plo Koon's case, he would have flown away at full speed to avoid certain death.

and what do you mean about his anger would make him focus or whatever it is you're trying to say? Anger/hate/rage...these are the things that lead to Anakin's downfall. Sure they make him stronger, but it also makes him an absolute idiot.

Good point about force sense but did you think Plo Koon was expecting that to happen or any other Jedi? Qui-Gon didn't let his guard down Maul kicked him in the face forcing Qui-Gon to lower his guard.
Anakin did do a lot of stupid things that led to his downfall and Obi-Wan did a lot of stupid things that helped led to Anakin's downfall. Like if Obi didn't go to fight Grievous Obi (The person Anakin looked up to) could have kept him on the path of the Jedi so it seems to me Anakin wasn't ready to be a Knight yet.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
Good point about force sense but did you think Plo Koon was expecting that to happen or any other Jedi? Qui-Gon didn't let his guard down Maul kicked him in the face forcing Qui-Gon to lower his guard.
Anakin did do a lot of stupid things that led to his downfall and Obi-Wan did a lot of stupid things that helped led to Anakin's downfall. Like if Obi didn't go to fight Grievous Obi (The person Anakin looked up to) could have kept him on the path of the Jedi so it seems to me Anakin wasn't ready to be a Knight yet.

Oh come on.

I never said Quo-Gon let his guard down, I said that he wasn't expecting it because Force-Sense is not a constant thing. And no, Plo Koon and the others weren't expecting it either, hence my previous post explaining that if they did expect it, they would not have died. 🙄

Now you're just taking what I say, and translating it to moronic speak, trying to turn it against my debate. It's not working.

It's not Obi-Wan's fault Anakin turned to the dark side. It's Anakin's and Palpatines. No one elses. Anakin was weak minded about certain aspects which allowed Palps to twist him into evil.

Man, this is like batting practice for Ken. Nothing but hangers over the heart of the plate.

Even the weakest mind can stay on the right track with the right guidance. Plus I'm sure Sense will only work when one is focused and Qui-Gon might have been unfocused with Maul. I mean a sith going at you with a double bladed I'm sure you're trying to stay alive.

Originally posted by Ast Rofan
WooHoo, the second greatest thread since the movie was released continues. 💃 💃 💃

and what would be the the greatest then? is it a 50-way tie for whether palpy was faking defeat threads?

Originally posted by mysterio69
and what would be the the greatest then? is it a 50-way tie for whether palpy was faking defeat threads?

Haha, those could be some of the biggest reason for this places downfall.

The thread I referred to was the grill baby. 💃

oh yeah. i've only heard rumblings of it since it's demise. it's like a legend now.

Originally posted by mysterio69
oh yeah. i've only heard rumblings of it since it's demise. it's like a legend now.

Oh no, oh no my friend. The grill is ALIVE, it is more powerful than ever before. 😎 😛

i see. and is the booze cheaper than queeq's?