Mr Fantastic vs Batman-Who Wins?

Originally posted by TheKahn
Personally, I don't think the two are anywhere equal in terms of scientific ability. Now I should explain what I mean by this. Both are certainly in the intellectual elites on their respective planets, but what separates them is their chosen fields of study. Batman may have had the potential to rival Reed in the science field if he had devoted his life to that pursuit instead of a crusade against crime.

Reed spends most of his time in a lab while Batman spends his time either on patrol, solving crimes, or physical conditioning. While Batman would attempt to think of a way to counter Mr. Fantastic's abilities (ie freeze capsules, specialized armor and weapons, ect) while Reed would just build a time machine to go back in time and prevent the deaths of Batman's parents or to just freeze Batman in place at the start of the fight.

When was the last time you saw Reed fight somebody like that?

Originally posted by batdude123
When was the last time you saw Reed fight somebody like that?

Last Tuesday

Originally posted by TheKahn
Last Tuesday

😖hifty: 😆

No but seriously, Kahn. Just because somebody has the ability to do something doesn't mean that they will. Case and point; Batman has the ability to use a sh*t load of all Wayne Enterprise equipment and just drop bombs and stuff on Reed's house but that doesn't mean he'd do it.

Originally posted by batdude123
No but seriously, Kahn. Just because somebody has the ability to do something doesn't mean that they will. Case and point; Batman has the ability to use a sh*t load of all Wayne Enterprise equipment and just drop bombs and stuff on Reed's house but that doesn't mean he'd do it.

Look at the situation we are putting them in. We are telling them that at the end of the week (or how ever long they have) they will be pitted against an extremely intelligent enemy in a fight to the death. So of course the "normal" way each one would fight gets tossed out of the window pretty damn quick. They don't really need to exploit all of their resources in every fight they are in (although they do when the situation requires it).

But in a fight to the death, I can't see either one pulling any punches or not exploring every possible avenue to victory.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Look at the situation we are putting them in. We are telling them that at the end of the week (or how ever long they have) they will be pitted against an extremely intelligent enemy in a fight to the death. So of course the "normal" way each one would fight gets tossed out of the window pretty damn quick. They don't really need to exploit all of their resources in every fight they are in (although they do when the situation requires it).

But in a fight to the death, I can't see either one pulling any punches or not exploring every possible avenue to victory.

Yes, but if they have no knowledge of one another, just that they're "an extremely intellegent enemy," how will Reed know to go back in time and stop the murder of his parents? 😕

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes, but if they have no knowledge of one another, just that they're "an extremely intellegent enemy," how will Reed know to go back in time and stop the murder of his parents? 😕

I didn't mean to suggest that as an actual plan of attack as much as I meant it to demonstrate the possible differences in the methods each would use in the fight.

Well there's always the motherbox for Batman... 😖hifty:

if batman doesnt know reed's powers before hand, he will be at a serious disadvantage.

^ Same with Reed. But if you think about it, if he does know Reed's powers before hand, then I think he would beat him because he has detailed files on how to beat Plastic Man. Plastic Man and Reed basically have the same power, so you do math. 😄

Yea but Reed's harder to bea than PLastic man...do u think Plastic man would survive years of fighting Dr Doom? Batman doesnt have powers...so I dont know what u mean when u say its the same with him.

Anyway, the Darkraider is one of the best examples of what a ruthless Reed Richards would be like, he basically travelled through the multiverse killing Mr Fantastics of the other dimensions...he easily beat the F4 on each occasion but was eventually killed by the 616 Watcher Uatu because he knew it was the only way to stop him, he wasnt even nearly as smart as 616 Reed by the way.

Well, we really don't know Batman's TRUE smart abilities or what he could build because he basically already has everything he needs. He's never been put into a situation that he couldn't handle with what he has. Now, Reed's main area of expertise is the scientific field, Batman's main area of expertise is deductive reasoning thinking, so naturally prep is his specialty. Especially since he basically has an unlimited amount of resources via the Batcave and Wayne enterprises. This is a close battle and it could really go either way.

Wait...people are voting for Batman?

This is Reed Richards we're talking about, right? With prep?

Batman bites it hard, my friends.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait...people are voting for Batman?

This is Reed Richards we're talking about, right? With prep?

Batman bites it hard, my friends.

🙄

Originally posted by batdude123
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Ah...batdude. I don't believe we've been formally introduced just yet. You must've joined during my little hiatus.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ah...batdude. I don't believe we've been formally introduced just yet. You must've joined during my little hiatus.

Yeah, I joined March 10.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, I joined March 10.

Well, welcome. I hope we can debate like civil folk during your stay.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Well, welcome. I hope we can debate like civil folk during your stay.

Yes, please, let's. But right now I gotta go. Conan O'Brien is on. 😄

Originally posted by batdude123
Well, we really don't know Batman's TRUE smart abilities or what he could build because he basically already has everything he needs. He's never been put into a situation that he couldn't handle with what he has. Now, Reed's main area of expertise is the scientific field, Batman's main area of expertise is deductive reasoning thinking, so naturally prep is his specialty. Especially since he basically has an unlimited amount of resources via the Batcave and Wayne enterprises. This is a close battle and it could really go either way.

^ In a scientific way, but not in a deductive way cause even though Reed is a freakin' genius, sometimes he lacks common sense.