Desann vs. Revan

Malak....

Bandon...

Luke wasn't all that powerful back then, and Desann did not defeat Luke... Luke did not want to fight... He would have killed Desann otherwise.

And who do you think taught Revan the Dark Side? He did. He learned it he controlled it not because he had a master that told him to do it. But because he thought he needed too. He taught himself threw combat.

And again what did Desann ever do thats even slightly impressive except for beating somebody that did not have the force and somebody that wasn't trying?

i go for revan in this battle. people say revan could defeat njo luke(i dont think so) but if this is true than revan is truly invicible he is a god! dessann is nowere near of that. kyle katarn killed him. luke wanted to turn him to the light side. he did not want to hurt him/kill him. Otherwise he would've!

Originally posted by 2Tidus!
If saying that Dessan is just much more powerful in both force powers and lightsaber is not enough for you, lets go with this. Dessan has muuuuch more allies then Revan. Hundreds of Dark Jedi empowered by force out of the Valley of The Jedi, with Dessan(Stronger then luke) and Tavior versus Revan?? He can't take on all of them.

And Dessan is stronger then Luke. Luke wouldn't try to bring a person to the lightside who murdered his own Master! I think murdering your own master is enough to judge to you that you have become fully dark sided.

wtf are you talking about luke wouldn't wanna bring back someone to the lightside cause they killed their master. luke brought vader back someone who killed little kids, countless innocence, not to menchin all the jedi he killed. and dessan has more allies than revan ya lets see revan was the commander of a sith empire AND an army not to mention the starforge army too. as far as i'm concerned you shouldn't even be talking cause you dont know anything about revan and you obviously are retarded if you think dessan is stronger than luke.

Originally posted by Fishy

Luke wasn't all that powerful back then, and Desann did not defeat Luke... Luke did not want to fight... He would have killed Desann otherwise.

So, if Luke "had" beaten Desaan, what would've been next?

Tie Desaan up and heave his ass back to the Jedi Academy?

Uh, I don't think so. Luke is a pansy compared to Desaan. You see how Desaan took him out?

Originally posted by Neo_Version 7
So, if Luke "had" beaten Desaan, what would've been next?

Tie Desaan up and heave his ass back to the Jedi Academy?

Uh, I don't think so. Luke is a pansy compared to Desaan. You see how Desaan took him out?

No he wasn't... Have you even Desann fight? Come on seriously people who did he fight, somebody that did not want to fight and a guy without the force the only other time he fought somebody he lost.

Desann is a nothing.

Every and I do mean every ancient Sith Lord could kill him. He would not even be able to light a candle against somebody like Revan.

Barely no anything about both of these but I know some about Desann but I also here people always talk about Revan rivaling NJO Luke. Heres what I think about Desann, he was a character in the Video game that was made up only for a video game to have a villian. And they had to make him seem real powerful or else the villian wouldnt seem that hard. I say Revan wins this easily.

BTW Jedi Knight Outcast is so freakin hard to figure out how to beat. Single player I think is just to hard to figure out what to do. But 2 player in awesome.

Revan does win this easily. Probably any Sith lord could beat Desann. I mean, yeah he's good but he's not a Sith lord and even Vader could take him.

Desann was struck down by a weak rogue jedi...

Revan. Easily.

Kyle is a weak rogue Jedi? Yeah and Yoda sucks.

Yeah he does, when he walks 😛

Anyways Desann is absolutely nothing compared to Revan name one just one impressive thing he did.

He made a spiky, bad-ass lightsaber.

That and he created hundreds of dark Jedi using the Valley of the Jedi and increased his power using the Valley also. Desann also defeated Luke 1 on 1. And I'm sure Luke wouldn't have tried to turn Vader if he weren't his father. Plus who did Revan fight that was so powerful? Malak? Oh no he's a coward who tried to kill Revan from another ship.

Originally posted by General Zodiac
That and he created hundreds of dark Jedi using the Valley of the Jedi and increased his power using the Valley also. Desann also defeated Luke 1 on 1. And I'm sure Luke wouldn't have tried to turn Vader if he weren't his father. Plus who did Revan fight that was so powerful? Malak? Oh no he's a coward who tried to kill Revan from another ship.

First of all the Valley of the Jedi hardly makes you impressive, it makes you stronger but far from strong enough to beat Revan.

Creating Jedi again is not impressive, he did not think of it he didn't think of how to realise it, he just executed the plan. Thats all and all he did for that was get a normal human to show him the location. What a great achievement.

Luke wanted to turn Desann, Luke wanted to turn everybody Dark back to the light just play the game again you will notice.

And Malak a coward??? A front line general for years, the second greatest lightsaber fighter before he left (second only to Revan) The second Jedi that defied the council and went to face the Mandelorians, the one that fought a lot of Jedi and Masters for his own personal glory risking his life. He was not a coward. Only when it came to Revan, and with Revan who can blame him?

Seriously if you would only think for one second you would know Desann has no real chance against anybody like Revan. This fight would be over in less then a minute. Desann isn't even an average Sith Lord if you can even call him that. Desann is just a Dark Jedi leading a bunch of nobody's who just learned how to use the force. Thats not impressive that doesn't even put you in the top 100 list. Everybody on this forum that actually knows SW will agree with me when I say that Revan will kick Desanns ass, probably for a really good reason.

Here's a reason. Desann got defeated by Kyle who is a Jedi master. Traya kills three council level Jedi masters at the same time with one use of the Force. Lord Revan is stronger than Traya. It's as simple as that.

One correction. Kyle wasn't as powerful as any of those masters who were amongst the four most powerful Masters of that Era and really powerful.

What you're saying is Revan is the strongest sith lord. As I recall correctly Revan was a Jedi. Oh what his fate depends on you. So basically sense Revan has 2 endings how do you know which 1 he'd actually take.
Second what are you saying Desann wasn't a Sith Lord. Have you ever played Outcast? Desann uses his powers greater then most sith would. He'll attack push, lighting, and grip at once. Let's see Revan counter that.
And finally about me talking about Revan. Someone enraged is stronger and if Revan was good he might not have been all that powerful. And tell me what happened to Revan? He could have gotten weaker like Obi-Wan did in terms of lightsaber matches.

Okay so you are actually suggesting that somebody who has done nothing but learn and fight his entire life for his own pleasure would weaken over time? He would only grow stronger because he would learn more.

Revan over here is commonly accepted as a Sith Lord. So he just is. Still would it matter? Sith or Jedi Revan would still draw on both sides of the force. If he was a Jedi he would only be that in name so he could better serve the Republic and its people. If he was a Sith he would only be that in name so he could better serve the people. Thats Revan for you. Dark or Light makes no difference so who cares about that anyway. He would stll have the same power which is amazing.

Now again. Kreia one move, three dead Council mmbers. Council members far more impressive then Kyle was... Even more impressive then Luke was at that time.

Desann was nothing... Ah screw it i'm doing argueing here. You people also think Obi could win from Dooku in Rots... I'm sorry but debating with you people is about as useless as talking to a pile of shit.

push, lightning, grip at once haven't worked on Lord Revan before. And he's faced hundreds of dark Jedi and Sith apprentices and two Sith lords.

So what you're saying is Revan is perfect? You underestimate Desann.

For the last time, when did Desann ever control a star, when did Desann actualy ever fight and win, how many Jedi did Desann kill. How many Sith did Desann kill how much knowledge could Desann have found. How many years has Desann fought in full out wars.

He doesn't even come close to Revan.. I don't know what it is with you people, but you all seem to underestimate Revan. If this trend continues you will all soon be saying a youngling could beat him, even if there isn't any reason. And you will just keep on saying the same thing, even if its beaten a million times already.