He can do everything, and with every new challenge, he finds away around it with ease. (Most of the time the writers just make him stronger) He's the best at everything, he do almost everything.
There is no depth to this guy, no conflict. Its comparative to killing an ant with a magnifying glass. Cool the first few time, but man does it get boring.
Originally posted by Zenoside
He can do everything, and with every new challenge, he finds away around it with ease. (Most of the time the writers just make him stronger) He's the best at everything, he do almost everything.There is no depth to this guy, no conflict. Its comparative to killing an ant with a magnifying glass. Cool the first few time, but man does it get boring.
do you actually read superman comics? there are plenty of more powerful characters in comicdom...
Precrisis Superman regularly flew at super-light speeds within the atmosphere.
He also had such strength he wouldn't even need to fly to deliver such a punch.
And in terms of durability, he bests even her boosted power.
Precrisis Superman when well written took Mjolnir without even a flinch and Hulks punches had no effect on him.
Originally posted by ZenosideAre you serious?
He can do everything, and with every new challenge, he finds away around it with ease. (Most of the time the writers just make him stronger) He's the best at everything, he do almost everything.There is no depth to this guy, no conflict. Its comparative to killing an ant with a magnifying glass. Cool the first few time, but man does it get boring.
Look at Gladiator, Thor, Silver Surfer, and even Sentry. Alot of people in here think those guys will wipe the floop with Superman.
Iceman and ScarletWitch are two more examples.
Originally posted by pr1983
do you actually read superman comics? there are plenty of more powerful characters in comicdom...
He outclasses every single one of them, and if you dont have any Kryptonite on hand your screwed. Even with weakness to magic its nothing I havent seen him beat before.
When I saw that Supes died in that one comic, I was actually interested for the first time. There was some depth after all, under all that plainness.
Im sorry but I'd take the funnies on the back of the newspapers over a superman comic.
Doesnt matter. Dont ignore the fact that she has absorbed collossus, juggs , thor, thing, she hulk, hulk, sunspot, even spidey has enhanced durability lol. All added to her own durability which is considerable. Hulk and wolverines healing abilities cant be ignored.
That coupled with the fact that in earths atmosphere because supes isnt linked to speed force he doesnt travel at anywhere near the speed of light because of the damage it would cause.
Longshots luck ability. Ms Marvels psychic seventh sense enabling her to subconsciously anticipate an enemies actions. Thors and Spidermans superhuman reflexes and senses.
Supes wouldnt be able to knock this powered up rogue out in one punch im afraid. Far from it. Plus not being able to do that allows her energy based abilities to come into play. Shields powered by the telekinetics shes absorbed.
Scarlet witches chaos magic.
Magnetos powers amplified by storms lightning.
Supes loses very badly
Originally posted by Zenoside
Im not talking about the UBER once in awhile type guys. Im talking about the normal heroes, Batman, X-men, Spidey, Avengers, JL.He outclasses every single one of them, and if you dont have any Kryptonite on hand your screwed. Even with weakness to magic its nothing I havent seen him beat before.
When I saw that Supes died in that one comic, I was actually interested for the first time. There was some depth after all, under all that plainness.
Im sorry but I'd take the funnies on the back of the newspapers over a superman comic.
then read a recent one... there's conflict, he had his ass handed to him by shazam a while back...
so he's not street level, big deal, snoopdogg named several more powerful characters, they should be under as much scrutiny...
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Precrisis Superman regularly flew at super-light speeds within the atmosphere.He also had such strength he wouldn't even need to fly to deliver such a punch.
And in terms of durability, he bests even her boosted power.
Precrisis Superman when well written took Mjolnir without even a flinch and Hulks punches had no effect on him.
If you read the thread properly, then you'll find out option 4 is on about POST crisis supes. The ridiculous and ill thought out feats of his pre-crsis incarnations are of no consequence to me im afraid and dont affect my argument in the slightest.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Are you serious?Look at Gladiator, Thor, Silver Surfer, and even Sentry. Alot of people in here think those guys will wipe the floop with Superman.
Iceman and ScarletWitch are two more examples.
Gladiator and Sentry have always been the best, and are only few and far between in regular comics.
Iceman and Scarletwitch would both need to be at full potential to takes supes down.
Originally posted by pr1983
then read a recent one... there's conflict, he had his ass handed to him by shazam a while back...so he's not street level, big deal, snoopdogg named several more powerful characters, they should be under as much scrutiny...
However, I will be open minded and give him another shot. 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Doesnt matter. Dont ignore the fact that she has absorbed collossus, juggs , thor, thing, she hulk, hulk, sunspot, even spidey has enhanced durability lol. All added to her own durability which is considerable. Hulk and wolverines healing abilities cant be ignored.That coupled with the fact that in earths atmosphere because supes isnt linked to speed force he doesnt travel at anywhere near the speed of light because of the damage it would cause.
Longshots luck ability. Ms Marvels psychic seventh sense enabling her to subconsciously anticipate an enemies actions. Thors and Spidermans superhuman reflexes and senses.
Supes wouldnt be able to knock this powered up rogue out in one punch im afraid. Far from it. Plus not being able to do that allows her energy based abilities to come into play. Shields powered by the telekinetics shes absorbed.
Scarlet witches chaos magic.
Magnetos powers amplified by storms lightning.
Supes loses very badly
It has been proven that Pre-Crisis Superman has flown over the speed of light in earth atmosphere. He has hurled uninhabiteted planet through space. He could rip Rogue's head with one hand in 0,00000000001 seconds. Rogue could not do any of those things before Superman has killed her. Only one with enough durablity to resist him would be Juggernaut, and Rogue has only half of his power.
Rogue loses very badly. Unless we are talking about Post-Crisis Superman.
Originally posted by Zenoside
I'll take your suggestion and read some recent Supes comics. I only dont like him because he's just so powerful, and is still considered on the level of the normal heroes.However, I will be open minded and give him another shot. 😄
honestly, id never consider him to be on their level... we're talking green lantern standard here...
he may surprise you... 🙂
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It has been proven that Pre-Crisis Superman has flown over the speed of light in earth atmosphere. He has hurled uninhabiteted planet through space. He could rip Rogue's head with one hand in 0,00000000001 seconds. Rogue could not do any of those things before Superman has killed her. Only one with enough durablity to resist him would be Juggernaut, and Rogue has only half of his power.Rogue loses very badly. Unless we are talking about Post-Crisis Superman.
Darkcrawler. You didnt read my post properly. Or the thread properly. Im arguing for OPTION 4. Because that is the only one where rogue wins and with ease at that. Option 4 is POST CRISIS supes. OK?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Darkcrawler. You didnt read my post properly. Or the thread properly. Im arguing for OPTION 4. Because that is the only one where rogue wins and with ease at that. Option 4 is POST CRISIS supes. OK?
Oh crap.....
I didn't realise option four was post crisis....
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lol!!!
I'm sorry Stormdude - you're right. He'd lose badly!!!
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Originally posted by pr1983
Bloody x-men and their delusions of grandeur... Marvel is trying to turn em into the JL f*cking A...
Yeah, we have:
An woman who can control all energy types
An guy who can't be beaten in any way because he can always reform
Most powerful thing after TOAA
Another woman with most powerful thing after TOAA
Hairy guy with claws who can't be beaten by anybody under cosmic level...
And other ubers.