Nightcrawler vs. Venom & Carnage

I agree he's underrated but at the same time could beat almost any nontelepath,and make good sense, though I'm not sure If Venom could lift a building though he has lifted a tank.

Good point about the lifting of items, I don't think his teleportation of Items is affected by his strength.

Best thing Nightcrawler can do is teleport out of there...

He'll live that way...............

Before he gets murdered!

I thought you'd gotten scared away by what Jinzin said.

What do you guys see Nightcrawler chances of victory are??

The fight's a stalemate until Nightcrawler get's caught. At which point he's as good as dead. His abilities are largely defensive not offensive. There's a limit to how much additional mass he can teleport and consecutive ports tire him out. It's really just a waiting game for Venom & Carnage. NC's underrated but here he's just outclassed by sheer brute force.

Agreed, he can't beat them alone, let along together, and he has to become vurnerable to attack them...

I love Nightcrawler but bae would definitely lose. (Arguably though at the end of it all just depends on who the writer is) <\3

Also sorry for double posting but I'm trying to remember if Nightcrawler and venom ever were in the same comic previously, marvel zombies or venomized bit seem to be likely but I couldn't find anything right away. Any ideas? I need to organize my comics and needed to know if this should be sent in to the cgc for grading and slabing.