Originally posted by supremthor
WHAT THATS BULLSHIT. the phoenix is good but not that good. The Great Evil Beast would eat the phoenix. not even lucifer f.u.c.kes with him or it or watever it is. the source, True Beyonder aka secret wars beyonder, The Presence,The Combined Endless,The Decreator,Kismet all thes characters are above phoenix.
As you'd see if you actually read my post properly i was referring to those listed by Ethereal in which case i still am correct.
You need to read up on your beyonder stuff. When a reference was made to true beyonder in this thread that is not the one from secret wars (who phoenix could very well beat) but the power behind the cosmic cubes. Beyonder from secret wars faced rachel not jean theres a big difference. It seems you need an update in your phoenix knowledge.
U all don't know what Phoenix can do and undo. She's so freakin' powerful that it's not even funny. Rachel, the weaker host handed galactus's ass several times. Now if we're talking about white crown jean grey, galaxies bow down to her. As dark phoenix, galaxies shit in their pants. Hey, when she's good, she's good, when she's bad..........D' Bari system.
Well, if there are any beings that can give these three trouble, Phoenix can make the vast majority of these 2 universes fight along side them, seeing as how Phoenix is the ultimate psi and all. And death could essentially no longer exist. Anyone who's needed can life forever. Anyone who's not can be erased from existence.
The HOTU as isn't the end all and be all of power in the MU. There's a reason it's call the Heart of the Universe, not Heart of the Multiverse or Heart of All There Is. Go back and read The End. Thanos constantly refers to how he ended the universe, how he destroyed his reality. It never has any larger implication than that.
ST are you trying to be annoying? Go and search for the Galactus Vs Phoenix thread, enlighten yourself and never talk trash again. Phoenix is the primal force of creation. It is suggested to be an aspect of TOAA. It creates existence cyclically and is the heart and soul of all of creation. Jean as phoenix of the white crown has reached her telepathic godhood. All matter, time/space etc are under her telekinetic control. She has also reached her telepathic godhood where her consciousness permeates and is one with all that is. In the comics she is referred to as tiphereth which is the heart and soul mystic tree of life and is also an incarnation of god within our plane of existence. Know your stuff before you start blabbing.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
ST are you trying to be annoying? Go and search for the Galactus Vs Phoenix thread, enlighten yourself and never talk trash again. Phoenix is the primal force of creation. It is suggested to be an aspect of TOAA. It creates existence cyclically and is the heart and soul of all of creation. Jean as phoenix of the white crown has reached her telepathic godhood. All matter, time/space etc are under her telekinetic control. She has also reached her telepathic godhood where her consciousness permeates and is one with all that is. In the comics she is referred to as tiphereth which is the heart and soul mystic tree of life and is also an incarnation of god within our plane of existence. Know your stuff before you start blabbing.
Originally posted by supremthor
i just felt like getting ur on ur nerves cuss i was realy bored.
by the way lucifer lives outside time space and etc so at full power phoenix powers would realy have no effect on him. unles she has the power to destroy a whol multivers with would realy do anything to him.
In Marvel Phoenix is the union of jean and the primal force of creation. Phoenix isnt a separate firebird entity. It is jean. The primal force of creation is second only to TOAA. Phoenix is responsible for the creation of Marvel existence. It created all that is and its power runs through all that is. Phoenix created Galactus. The primal force of creation enabled Galen to survive the death of the old universe and join with the universal essence to become Galactus. Phoenix created all the other abstracts. Jean as Phoenix of the white crown has telekinetic control over ALL matter, time/space etc and she telepathically one with all. Jean is phoenix all manifestations of the firebird are created by jean they are a part of jean. Jean is the primal force of creation in human form. All other phoenixes are merely hosts who possess part of jean sphoenix essence.
'fanboy'
Not at all. I can admit when phoenix can be defeated its just that there are very few beings in both marvel and dc who can. Its hosts can be taken out by powerful cosmics but jean herself going all out is beyond the vast majority of beings from both companies. Thats fact, not my assumptions or my fanboy wishes. Cordera you by your own admission know precious little about comics, before you start referring to people by such terms make sure you actually know about the character in question so that you can more accurately make a judgement yourself. Until you've enlightened yourself allow me the pleasure of redirecting to a less brain taxing forum:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?daysprune=&forumid=85
Originally posted by supremthor
all u need to kill the 3 of them all is Lucifer.
exactly he will destroy all of them.....phoenix is the prime multiversal force......lucifer is beyond the multiverse........he stood at the center of an explosion that could have destroyed the multiverse and didnt even flinch
Originally posted by colossus17
exactly he will destroy all of them.....phoenix is the prime multiversal force......lucifer is beyond the multiverse........he stood at the center of an explosion that could have destroyed the multiverse and didnt even flinch
Surviving the destruction of the multiverse says nothing about his power in comparison to phoenix. Phoenix creates the multiverse and exists beyond it in the white hot room, only reincarnating itself into our plane of existence to carry out microsurgery from within and via a human perspective. Think about it c17. Lucifer requires Michael to create a multiverse, Phoenix does it singlehandedly.
Jean holds universes in her hand and has telekinetic control over all matter, time/space and reality. She has reached telekinetic godhood. There is nothing beyond that hence its name. She has reached telepathic godhood, meaning she is the heart and soul of all that is, her consciousness extends over all.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In Marvel Phoenix is the union of jean and the primal force of creation. Phoenix isnt a separate firebird entity. It is jean. The primal force of creation is second only to TOAA. Phoenix is responsible for the creation of Marvel existence. It created all that is and its power runs through all that is. Phoenix created Galactus. The primal force of creation enabled Galen to survive the death of the old universe and join with the universal essence to become Galactus. Phoenix created all the other abstracts. Jean as Phoenix of the white crown has telekinetic control over ALL matter, time/space etc and she telepathically one with all. Jean is phoenix all manifestations of the firebird are created by jean they are a part of jean. Jean is the primal force of creation in human form. All other phoenixes are merely hosts who possess part of jean sphoenix essence.'fanboy'
[QUOTE=4307877]Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]Not at all. I can admit when phoenix can be defeated its just that there are very few beings in both marvel and dc who can. Its hosts can be taken out by powerful cosmics but jean herself going all out is beyond the vast majority of beings from both companies. Thats fact, not my assumptions or my fanboy wishes. Cordera you by your own admission know precious little about comics, before you start referring to people by such terms make sure you actually know about the character in question so that you can more accurately make a judgement yourself. Until you've enlightened yourself allow me the pleasure of redirecting to a less brain taxing forum:
I wasnt' aiming that at you I was saying "fanboy" as in a questionary mark. You are on a wall and need those insults as usual, tsk tsk. Its funny how everyone lashes out on me, you took that too seriously maybe its the estrogen 😛
I said I wasn't a diehard reader, I learn fast and make the difference, I reading all the time makes me no better if I can't deduce what is right or wrong. Take a chill pill. Fanboy😛
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?daysprune=&forumid=85 [/B][/QUOTE]