Can we control our evolution?...

Started by xmarksthespot6 pages

Re: come on.

Originally posted by Cyd
Some of you said that controlling a kind of personal evolution is impossible, and others had said that there´s no evolution until there´s a change in a large group of people or a complete comunity, (if only one changes, there´s no evolution?).

Controlling a kind of personal evolution is impossible because there is no such thing as personal evolution. Evolution is a term reserved for populations of organisms not individual organisms. Controlling the evolution of a population of organisms is possible... it's called eugenics...

Originally posted by Cyd
Remember that the changes (evolution) starts with one being, i mean (human or animal), and then that being starts to interact in the nature reproducing him/her/it/self and transmitting the evolved genes to the newly born.

The assumption being made is that modern humans arose from a single mutation event in a single individual. Imo that is unlikely. Humans aren't prokaryotes.
More likely changes in the composition of the alleles in the gene pool as a whole resulted in the evolution of H. sapiens from H. heidelbergensis.

Originally posted by Cyd
The one who starts bringing the evolved genes has already experimented what we call evolution... So please, don´t tell me that we have to wait at least fifty years until there´s serveral beings with that change to call it evolution...

A single mutation event in a eukaryote organism such as a human is not sufficient to be labelled evolution. There is far too much genetic diversity. You'll have to wait a lot longer than 50 years for evolution of humankind into what can be classified as a new species.
A species is roughly defined as a group of organisms that can interbreed to produce viable sterile offspring. In other words a group of organisms have to evolve from modern humans, that can interbreed with each other to produce sterile offspring but cannot interbreed with modern humans.

Are you telling me that we have to change to another kind of species in order to experience the evolution?

Originally posted by Atlantis001
I think we can force the evolution. Just go to a different enviroment, and them you will envolve to adapt to that enviroment you moved to

Sort of. Except—it will take a VERY long time. And if we did the human thing and built shelter and wore suitable clothing and etc, there would be no change. If we didn't, we'd have to, like, survive, for anything to happen.

Originally posted by Cyd
Are you telling me that we have to change to another kind of species in order to experience the evolution?

Yes, because that's the definition of evolution. Do a search in the GDF for "evolution" and go in the really long thread titled, appropriately, "evolution".

You people always forget that evolution isn't always a step forward. More often is is a step to the side. Survival of the fittest is really about who can survive what is going on at the time.

I never forgot that... no2

Okay, we can and cannot control our evolution. No one has tried it before. So, we might have to wait a while to find out.

Theoretically, it is possible to control our evolution. Theoretically, it isn't possible to be around to find out the end reults of our own experiment. But, it's also theoretically possible to see the need for our evolution produce results. So, where are we now?

Originally posted by Darth Revan
Yes, because that's the definition of evolution. Do a search in the GDF for "evolution" and go in the really long thread titled, appropriately, "evolution".

OK, i understand so let´s forget the word evolution and all its meaning. And let´s give a name to what im talking about. Let´s name it ¨Cydution¨= a Self change in order to be better.

I beleive we can change the way we evolve, none of us will be around to even notice a change. We can delay it by not screwing our earth up, which may affect the enviroment and agriculture. But then again Humans didn't cause the Ice Age. I beleive taht the way we continue to advance in technology could alter the way we evolve, because of the different foods or substanses we consume. Then again in evolution there are a few theories, one being that its almost like a predicted scale, Theres a large period of time full of life and evolution, then a mass extiction period, then a Large Period of time full of life and evolution, and etc etc etc going on and on and on. I forget the theory tho. Its kinda been proven due to the fact that there has been atleast 2 mass extinctions with large periods of time full of life and evolution, our period and another. ( Dinosaurs probally wasn't exactly a huge explosion,w as proven that drastic weather changes and plant evolution caused dinosaurs to die. Dry weather and Droughts were appearing everywhere, forced plant eaters to move north for food. But their plant food evolved gaining thicker leaves which the Herbavores coudln't bite or digest, they died out and the Carnovores soon died out. But it was more like a chain of events, Weather, Bugs, Plants, Dinosours. But the weather bugs and Plants contributed to there death. ( theory still i beleive but its the mose accurate so far)

Remember, evolution is not always "a step forward". The term advancement has little to do with evolution. In fact, most "leaps" in evolution are really just steps to the side.

eh? So evolving traits to better survive in your environment is not a step forward?.............it's a step to the side?...........the alternative is dying........so...........evolving traits to suit you changing environment is equal to your species simply becoming extinct?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
eh? So evolving traits to better survive in your environment is not a step forward?.............it's a step to the side?...........the alternative is dying........so...........evolving traits to suit you changing environment is equal to your species simply becoming extinct?

First of all, changing to suit your environment is not a step forward. That implies that A) the step forward was planned out, and B) A would imply that there is a predestined end result. If that were the case, then there would be no need for evolution.

Secondly, try not to expose your ignorance of what you speak, all at once. If you were half as informed on the ever-changing theory of evolution, you wouldn't be talking out of your ass in your responses.

but lets not forget this time it could be the weak who live.which highly seems not to happen but you never know

Originally posted by feralboy
but lets not forget this time it could be the weak who live.which highly seems not to happen but you never know

So, what's your point? You point something out, and then you say..."but probably not".

"Seriously, I have no idea what you're saying right now."

i'm just saying it could happen

Originally posted by feralboy
i'm just saying it could happen

That's like debating the word "is". Weak in the physical sense no longer applies. So, the weak flesh has given way to the stronger mind? Stronger is still stronger.

First of all, changing to suit your environment is not a step forward. That implies that A) the step forward was planned out, and B) A would imply that there is a predestined end result. If that were the case, then there would be no need for evolution.

Secondly, try not to expose your ignorance of what you speak, all at once. If you were half as informed on the ever-changing theory of evolution, you wouldn't be talking out of your ass in your responses.

okay *******.........

First, yes. Evolution is the PROGRESSION of a species.......which is advancement. It's not regression.......it's not parallel movement. Parallel movement at best is considered a simply a result of natural selection.........the process which does aid in Evolution but is not exclusive.

secondly, you'd have to be pretty dumb to know that "step forward" is a figure of speech and does not actually mean a staged plan that was divided into "steps".............dipshit.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
okay *******.........

First, yes. Evolution is the PROGRESSION of a species.......which is advancement. It's not regression.......it's not parallel movement. Parallel movement at best is considered a simply a result of natural selection.........the process which does aid in Evolution but is not exclusive.

secondly, you'd have to be pretty dumb to know that "step forward" is a figure of speech and does not actually mean a staged plan that was divided into "steps".............dipshit.

you only prove my point, the more you speak.....

dipshit? that was good. I like that.

evolution as in sciense?? cause if so..................
evolution is wrong
creation is right

Originally posted by jacobo0o
evolution as in sciense?? cause if so..................
evolution is wrong
creation is right

No, "evolution" as in "science," dumb-ass.

Originally posted by jacobo0o
evolution as in sciense?? cause if so..................
evolution is wrong
creation is right

Haven´t you ever think that creation could be something created to hide the secrets of evolution or contrariwise?...