Originally posted by dvampire
Seriously bring an arugement. 🙁 🙂 😄
there have been brought to you many good arguments... a great many at that.. there's no point to bring more... you have yet to refute the prior arguments made against you with anything more than claims to hyperbole.. which is a copout.. since there's really no feat that could be considered as hyperbole considering the range of feats in dbz....
as I said.. talking to a wall.. what's the point?
Originally posted by dvampire
Wow! So now crossovers are cannon? 😕
well... actually... accesss unlimated.. and all access were in canon storylines with dc... so yeah... in this particular case.. the story was referenced in green lantern comics as being a canon event.... so yes....
Originally posted by dvampire
No it's not. 😕 The US version changes what Goku's say's in both the Japanese anime and original manga and there was Pikon, Krillian and other dead fighters. 🙂
uhhh yeah... yeah it is... 😕
both frieza and buu have destroyed planets by simply blasting at the planet and not nessessarily at it's core as you had claimed.. both references are canon examples that negate your claim..
Originally posted by dvampire
So I guess you have no arguement. 😕 🙂 😄
as I said.. what's the point any good argument brought to you is simply regarded as hyperbole.
how do I know you ask?
well... simply put...
I already gave you a number of arguments. arguments that pointed out how low power leveled characters in dbz have feats of comparison to superman's own...
that power levels are relative
that power levels increase...
what power levels increased to by the end of dbz...
and a fairly accurate assessment of how the two compare...
what I got...
"well that's hyperbole"
seriously, you think yourself fit to lecture people on bringing an argument to the table when you reply with something like that? ❌
but superman leaping out of a black hole isn't hyperbole? 🙄 riiiiight.
Some one said Superman blew up the moon by himself...well you said he drilled into it..right through the middle and thats hitting the CORE so Superman did shit. Piccolo on the other hand was so far away from the moon and the beam hit it in seconds...also it blew it up not to mention piccilo was a weak ****...sorry this match is more even superman winning or not than supes does 1 hit and wins...
Originally posted by jinzin
there have been brought to you many good arguments... a great many at that.. there's no point to bring more... you have yet to refute the prior arguments made against you with anything more than claims to hyperbole.. which is a copout.. since there's really no feat that could be considered as hyperbole considering the range of feats in dbz....
as I said.. talking to a wall.. what's the point?well... actually... accesss unlimated.. and all access were in canon storylines with dc... so yeah... in this particular case.. the story was referenced in green lantern comics as being a canon event.... so yes....
You still havn't brung an arguement.
You actually think Venom can beat Superman? 😕
Originally posted by jinzin
uhhh yeah... yeah it is... 😕both frieza and buu have destroyed planets by simply blasting at the planet and not nessessarily at it's core as you had claimed.. both references are canon examples that negate your claim..
Uhhhh no....Freeza blew the planet up by using his Death Ball to penetrate towards the planets core and Buu blew up the planet by charging up a huge energy blast, nither of them blew up a planet just by throwing a simple energy blast that touching it, causing it to blow up. 🙂
Originally posted by jinzin
as I said.. what's the point any good argument brought to you is simply regarded as hyperbole.how do I know you ask?
well... simply put...
I already gave you a number of arguments. arguments that pointed out how low power leveled characters in dbz have feats of comparison to superman's own...
that power levels are relative
that power levels increase...
what power levels increased to by the end of dbz...
and a fairly accurate assessment of how the two compare...what I got...
"well that's hyperbole"
seriously, you think yourself fit to lecture people on bringing an argument to the table when you reply with something like that? ❌but superman leaping out of a black hole isn't hyperbole? 🙄 riiiiight.
So basically you have no argument right? 😕
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Some one said Superman blew up the moon by himself...well you said he drilled into it..right through the middle and thats hitting the CORE so Superman did shit. Piccolo on the other hand was so far away from the moon and the beam hit it in seconds...also it blew it up not to mention piccilo was a weak ****...sorry this match is more even superman winning or not than supes does 1 hit and wins...
Nope, Superman is throwing planet destroying might with physical blows. They didn't show what happened when Piccolo blast was traveling torwads the moon either.
And here's Fat Buu (who's equal to ssj3 Goku in power and is far more powerful than any past DBZ fighters in power) vs. ssj3 Goku throwing a Kamehameha wave (which didn't destroy the planet) at him, which did nothing but cause an explosion (didn't destroy the planet).
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Originally posted by dvampire
You still havn't brung an arguement.You actually think Venom can beat Superman? 😕
wow.. my mistake.. allow me to correct myself...
it's like talking to an ILLITERATE wall....
Originally posted by jinzin
as I said.. what's the point any good argument brought to you is simply regarded as hyperbole.how do I know you ask?
well... simply put...
I already gave you a number of arguments. arguments that pointed out how low power leveled characters in dbz have feats of comparison to superman's own...
that power levels are relative
that power levels increase...
what power levels increased to by the end of dbz...
and a fairly accurate assessment of how the two compare...what I got...
"well that's hyperbole"
seriously, you think yourself fit to lecture people on bringing an argument to the table when you reply with something like that? ❌but superman leaping out of a black hole isn't hyperbole? 🙄 riiiiight.
already have posted an argument chief.. posted a number of em actually....
never got a decent rebuttal in return... 😉
and yeah in that particular time frame with what was happening to supe's body.. venom could take him.. in fact venom DID take him.. get over it...
Originally posted by dvampire
Uhhhh no....Freeza blew the planet up by using his Death Ball to penetrate towards the planets core and Buu blew up the planet by charging up a huge energy blast, nither of them blew up a planet just by throwing a simple energy blast that touching it, causing it to blow up. 🙂
frieza's deathball destroyed half the planets surface before hitting the planets core and destroying the other half.. it wasn't an attack that was = to hitting the planets core specifically to blow it up... it only hit the core because the core was part of the planet and well... in the damned way... anything else is a complete rationalization on your part because the actual feat negates your argument... frieza did it with the wave of a finger.. end of story....
Originally posted by dvampire
So basically you have no argument right? 😕
Originally posted by dvampire
Nope, Superman is throwing planet destroying might with physical blows. They didn't show what happened when Piccolo blast was traveling torwads the moon either.And here's Fat Buu (who's equal to ssj3 Goku in power and is far more powerful than any past DBZ fighters in power) vs. ssj3 Goku throwing a Kamehameha wave (which didn't destroy the planet) at him, which did nothing but cause an explosion (didn't destroy the planet).
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jinzin-dbz characters have control over their own energy attacks.. this has even been referenced...
wall-hyperbole...
[QUOTE=5654480]Originally posted by jinzin
"wow.. my mistake.. allow me to correct myself...
it's like talking to an ILLITERATE wall...."
So no arguement right here.
"already have posted an argument chief.. posted a number of em actually....
never got a decent rebuttal in return... 😉"
Nope, still no arguement. Where's the proof that ssj3/4 Goku is faster, stronger, more durable and has the stamina to compete with Supes?
"and yeah in that particular time frame with what was happening to supe's body.. venom could take him.. in fact venom DID take him.. get over it..."
Wow! Your being desperate if you're adding crossovers into this.
"buus blast wasn't one that took much effort (AT ALL) on his part..."
Kid Buu's blasts was charged, which is why Goku and Vegeta couldn't deflect it.
'frieza's deathball destroyed half the planets surface before hitting the planets core and destroying the other half.. it wasn't an attack that was = to hitting the planets core specifically to blow it up..."
Freeza's Death Ball didn't destroy half the surface of the planet. 😕 It did exactly what I said, it travel towards the planets core (which was going to reach in about 5 minutes).
"it only hit the core because the core was part of the planet and well... in the damned way..."
He destroyed the planet by hitting it's core.
"anything else is a complete rationalization on your part because the actual feat negates your argument... frieza did it with the wave of a finger.. end of story...."
Freeza didn't do it with a wave of a finger (sorry).
"whatever it takes to help you sleep at night.. 🙄"
I'm still waiting for proof that ssj3/4 Goku is stronger, faster, more durable, and has better stamina than Superman.:rolleyes back:
Originally posted by dvampire
[QUOTE=5654480]Originally posted by jinzin
"wow.. my mistake.. allow me to correct myself...it's like talking to an ILLITERATE wall...."
So no arguement right here.
"already have posted an argument chief.. posted a number of em actually....
never got a decent rebuttal in return... 😉"Nope, still no arguement. Where's the proof that ssj3/4 Goku is faster, stronger, more durable and has the stamina to compete with Supes?
"and yeah in that particular time frame with what was happening to supe's body.. venom could take him.. in fact venom DID take him.. get over it..."
Wow! Your being desperate if you're adding crossovers into this.
"buus blast wasn't one that took much effort (AT ALL) on his part..."
Kid Buu's blasts was charged, which is why Goku and Vegeta couldn't deflect it.
'frieza's deathball destroyed half the planets surface before hitting the planets core and destroying the other half.. it wasn't an attack that was = to hitting the planets core specifically to blow it up..."
Freeza's Death Ball didn't destroy half the surface of the planet. 😕 It did exactly what I said, it travel towards the planets core (which was going to reach in about 5 minutes).
"it only hit the core because the core was part of the planet and well... in the damned way..."
He destroyed the planet by hitting it's core.
"anything else is a complete rationalization on your part because the actual feat negates your argument... frieza did it with the wave of a finger.. end of story...."
Freeza didn't do it with a wave of a finger (sorry).
"whatever it takes to help you sleep at night.. 🙄"
I'm still waiting for proof that ssj3/4 Goku is stronger, faster, more durable, and has better stamina than Superman.:rolleyes back:
all arguments that have been argued rebuttaled and refuted before.. if you didn't catch on before what chance have you now?
and desperate? PUHLEASE 😂
it's desperate to call everything that dbz characters do after the saiyan saga hyperbole...
it's hardly desperate to bring into question a crossover that was REFERENCED in canon material... 🤨
Originally posted by dvampire
Nope, Superman is throwing planet destroying might with physical blows. They didn't show what happened when Piccolo blast was traveling torwads the moon either.And here's Fat Buu (who's equal to ssj3 Goku in power and is far more powerful than any past DBZ fighters in power) vs. ssj3 Goku throwing a Kamehameha wave (which didn't destroy the planet) at him, which did nothing but cause an explosion (didn't destroy the planet).
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It wasn't suppsoe to blow up the earth 🙄 Buu was playing around and goku later on said he coul of been destroye dthe fat one but was also playing around 🙄
and for the planer destroying..
was it a charged blast?
sure..
was it anything even close to full power? hell no...
did buu exert himself whatsoever doing it? HELL.... NO....
how about frieza?
did he destroy a planet with the wave of his finger?
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.......... well... it would certainly seem that way..
did it attack the core to destroy the planet? nope.. and all dvamp can do is rationalize about it because he doesn't know for sure..
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
It wasn't suppsoe to blow up the earth 🙄 Buu was playing around and goku later on said he coul of been destroye dthe fat one but was also playing around 🙄
and........
CON-friggin-TROL!
if you're an experienced martial artist you learn a thing or two about it...
seriously.. this is why the anti dbz argument's are so pathetic...
goku at a nothing power level destroyed an enormous island in a fight...
piccolo at a power level a few times stronger than that blew up the moon...
vegeta presumably had enough power to destroy earth.. to goku's admission..
frieza DID destroy a planet with the wave of his little index finger...
vegeta accidently blew up a planet with a blast that frieza kicked out of the way.
specs of energy that flew off 100% frieza left enormous craters..... SPECS for god's sake...
king kold claimed to have been powerful enough to destroy a solar system...
but they'll honestly believe that goku in ss3 who's literally thousands UPON thousands of times stronger than any of these guys couldn't blow up at least a continent if he tried? 🤨
Originally posted by jinzin
and for the planer destroying..was it a charged blast?
sure..was it anything even close to full power? hell no...
did buu exert himself whatsoever doing it? HELL.... NO....
how about frieza?
did he destroy a planet with the wave of his finger?
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.......... well... it would certainly seem that way..did it attack the core to destroy the planet? nope.. and all dvamp can do is rationalize about it because he doesn't know for sure..
That's the Death Ball attack he used to destroy planet Vegeta. Did his technique destroy the planet as soon as it hit the surface? Nope. 🙂
