WHO THE HELL SAOD SOLAR FLARE (TAIYOKEN) USE THE SUN?It is already said in the manga that uses only the chi of the own person to do that attack , and it can be done super fast if goku wants it to be.Goku doesnt have any attack powered by the sun,all his attacks come from chi,and chi in dbz universe can be considered magic,and super is totally vulnerabel against magic.
Originally posted by Zen2ndExcept that each yellow star he encounters the light of will reenergize him again.
Goku could put Superman at the edge of the universe, not the galaxy. Even travelling at 10,000 times the speed of light it would take about a year for Superman to return to Earth, but by then his energy would be drained.
IS this the only way Goku can win? By running away?
And again the IT he has to lock on to a person or know where he's going to teleport. And then he has to touch Superman while he concentrates.
Based on the picture above there is no way goku is going to have ahold of superman for the time he needs.
Originally posted by HoshiChi isn't magic.
WHO THE HELL SAOD SOLAR FLARE (TAIYOKEN) USE THE SUN?It is already said in the manga that uses only the chi of the own person to do that attack , and it can be done super fast if goku wants it to be.Goku doesnt have any attack powered by the sun,all his attacks come from chi,and chi in dbz universe can be considered magic,and super is totally vulnerabel against magic.
Because it's source is not mystical in nature.
bibidi and babidi the two greatest mages in dbz universe said that chi and magic are the same thing,it is only a difference on how it is used,and goku can teleport as fast as he can fly.But goku can win in many different ways against super.He can bliow him with a kamehameha,crush him with the dragon punch(it has power to destroy the earth several times),use the solar flare and crush him holding his presence,etc. .Freeza in his weakest form almost destroyed a planet as big as the earth because he was showing picollo ,gohan and vegeta that he could destroy that planet as it was a piece of paper(freeza is one of the weakest guys in dbz universe).
Originally posted by M Hoshi 89Bibidi and Babadi thought there magic would enable them to control Buu.
bibidi and babidi the two greatest mages in dbz universe said that chi and magic are the same thing,it is only a difference on how it is used,and goku can teleport as fast as he can fly.But goku can win in many different ways against super.He can bliow him with a kamehameha,crush him with the dragon punch(it has power to destroy the earth several times),use the solar flare and crush him holding his presence,etc. .Freeza in his weakest form almost destroyed a planet as big as the earth because he was showing picollo ,gohan and vegeta that he could destroy that planet as it was a piece of paper(freeza is one of the weakest guys in dbz universe).
Turns out they were wrong.
Babidi thought his magic could control vegeta.
Turns out he was wrong.
I wouldn't put alot of weight on what Bibidi and babidi say. . . Otherwise if chi=magic then Bibidi should have been able to fight well. . . Oops, guess not.
Originally posted by M Hoshi 89But chi is not magic.
if they though wrong about chi , that mean chi is stronger than magic, if super is vulnerable to magic and chi is stronger than magic...
Doesn't matter if it's 1000 times stronger than magic.
That's like using fire against the human torch, doesn't matter how much stronger the fire is than water. Fire won't hurt him but water will.
See the difference?
Supes is as weak to magic as you or I. He has no enhanced durability against it.
Originally posted by HoshiThis was the Wizard magazine that says that Spiderman lifts 2 tons at most when he lifts 15 tons.
but i saw in the comics that batman used a glove that gave him super chi , and he could punch super man to the point he start bleeding(he had to stopr before his hand broke),and i am not talking about the ring of krip that bat had
Wizard isn't a reliable source of information for what goes on IN comics.
Originally posted by HoshiAnd he's since gotten stronger than then.
and even if super is not vulnerable to chi , he is vulnerable to strong attacks,i saw super having trouble facing a nuke, kamehameha is 1000000 stronger than any nuke, and it is alot faster, and goku has total control of it
I once saw Goku get taken out simply because someone grabbed his tail. Superman is 1000000 times stronger than that person, and is much faster too.
err... when he was a child his weak point was his tail, just like super weak point is the"green stone", the only difference is that goku could surpass that weak point .I already saw super having trouble facing a normal guy who had kript , and goku was 1000000000 stronger than this guy, and more powerfull .
Originally posted by dvampireyou can snap your fingers twice and thats how long itll take goku to bring supes somewhere (whever he can think of) and leave him there, an return to earth.. its not a casted spell.. zanzokuken happens instantly... it doesnt take a few seconds to do
If Goku (if Supes allow him to grab him like that) sends him to the sun, he will only be making Supes stronger. Supes can hold his breath for hours in space, Goku can't. And it takes Supes seconds not years to get from Earth to the sun😄
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
you can snap your fingers twice and thats how long itll take goku to bring supes somewhere (whever he can think of) and leave him there, an return to earth.. its not a casted spell.. zanzokuken happens instantly... it doesnt take a few seconds to do
Goku has to tap on to someones energy to do IT. That's going to hard to do while he's fighting. 🙂
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Goku could put Superman at the edge of the universe, not the galaxy. Even travelling at 10,000 times the speed of light it would take about a year for Superman to return to Earth, but by then his energy would be drained.
Goku can't teleport to some place hes never been too. 🙂
Originally posted by Hoshi
WHO THE HELL SAOD SOLAR FLARE (TAIYOKEN) USE THE SUN?It is already said in the manga that uses only the chi of the own person to do that attack , and it can be done super fast if goku wants it to be.Goku doesnt have any attack powered by the sun,all his attacks come from chi,and chi in dbz universe can be considered magic,and super is totally vulnerabel against magic.
It's life energy, not magic. 🙂
Originally posted by Hoshi
and even if super is not vulnerable to chi , he is vulnerable to strong attacks,i saw super having trouble facing a nuke, kamehameha is 1000000 stronger than any nuke, and it is alot faster, and goku has total control of it
Supes survived 100,000,000 megaton bomb at point blank, and he wasn't even fased. 🙂 SSJ3/4 Goku isn't taking more than two punches from Supes before the he is KOed. Supes is faster, stronger, more durable, and have way better stamina. He wins. 🙂