Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Ok and it shows you his combat speed, and how fast he dodged, and keep in mind he is a billion times better now.
seriously... I still don't get how becoming invisable with speed is supposed to be impressive to DBZ fighters who could do the same damn thing at power levels of friggin 1200.... hmmmm
No one saying being invisible is a huge feat. Hell, a bullet is invisible and it only moves five or six hundred miles an hour.
It's the fact Superman can move his massive matter mass THROUGH a field of oncoming PHOTONS at light speed that's more than just impressive, that's absolutely insane. If you any knowledge of Physics, Chemistry, or basic Biology, you'd know just how absolutely ridiculous that feat is.
Again, I also love how the DBZ fanboys pick one argument and attack it like there's no tomorrow, with no evidence, and then of course, not arguing the main point. What does DBZ being fast have anything to do if you can't prove he can even do damage to Superman? Can you say strawman logical fallacy?
Supes has taken hits from people like Savage Hulk when pumped, someone who can literally rip apart the armor of Onslaught, and Thor, the friggin' God of Thunder; and he comes back for seconds. The scans have already shown how he can pass through energy blasts, so there goes all of Goku's ki blasts, and when it comes to strength, no DBZ supporters have even shown that he has the strength necessary to even hurt him.
And again, wtf does that video prove? Nothing. It only shows Goku is as fast or faster than his contemporaries, that shows nothing about Supes.
Supes can make conscious muscle activity, such as running, flying, vibrating, at ridiculous speed, yet somehow you're trying to convince us that when he fights, his reaction time, physical body speed, and everything else inexplicably DROPS? B!tch please.
Again, is NEO slow because every time something major happens, it goes into bullet time? Answer this please.
You've just shown that there's an aesthetic difference between panels of a cartoon and a kiddy cartoon, that's it. Nevermind that logic AND scans have dictated Supes can move, think, and fight with ridiculous speed, and that any one of the various cosmic level entities he fights do too.
Please, if you want to get into a ring, make sure you get your ass in shape.
Originally posted by jinzinI think the differences is that the dbz fighters were moving around, and Superman was vibrating in place. . .
seriously... I still don't get how becoming invisable with speed is supposed to be impressive to DBZ fighters who could do the same damn thing at power levels of friggin 1200.... hmmmm
Wow the power of a supes fanboy, and i just said what it was far, but the superman fanboys...My posts must be lead lined because you can't see through it for some reason....Fine and dandy that you think superman wins, but it's so retarted how you underestimate goku, and the way you talk about goku it makes me think Batman could beat him hand to hand.
Combat speed different than flying and being a human vibrator speed. Don't let me bring up the flash. the fact that some of you says Superman kills goku with one punch and ssj3 goku can't hurt him a little is just a bunch of crap, this sounds like people saying one punch from spidey kills wolverine......
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Wow the power of a supes fanboy, and i just said what it was far, but the superman fanboys...My posts must be lead lined because you can't see through it for some reason....Fine and dandy that you think superman wins, but it's so retarted how you underestimate goku, and the way you talk about goku it makes me think Batman could beat him hand to hand.
Here's something to help you:
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AND:
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Turn around, learn to debate, learn to use evidence and proof.
My posts must be lead lined because you can't see through it for some reason
What posts? The one where you attempted to use a silly little video of Goku beating people that don't have an S on their chest to justify how he'd beat Superman? Please.
You haven't understood a single one of my points, you don't deserve to shine my shoes.
Fine and dandy that you think superman wins, but it's so retarted how you underestimate goku, and the way you talk about goku it makes me think Batman could beat him hand to hand.
Good job, strawman again. You debate a point that was never put on the table, you play victim like we went after your house, and then you pretend to roll over and be a saint. Nice try.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Combat speed different than flying and being a human vibrator speed. Don't let me bring up the flash. the fact that some of you says Superman kills goku with one punch and ssj3 goku can't hurt him a little is just a bunch of crap, this sounds like people saying one punch from spidey kills wolverine......
That wouldn't be BS, because we've seen Wolverine take hits from MUCH stronger people than Spiderman and survive.
See, that's PROOF.
You haven't offered PROOF. You've simply thrown around bullsh*t.
And how the f*ck is it different? Both abilities require CONSCIOUS MOVEMENT OF YOUR FRIGGIN MUSCLES.
Take a biology, anatomy, or physiology class before you try convincing people Supes will suddenly slow down when he fights.
^ I addressed this in my post, thanks for proving you don't READ.
Originally posted by Illustrious
No one saying being invisible is a huge feat. Hell, a bullet is invisible and it only moves five or six hundred miles an hour.It's the fact Superman can move his massive matter mass THROUGH a field of oncoming PHOTONS at light speed that's more than just impressive, that's absolutely insane. If you [b]any
knowledge of Physics, Chemistry, or basic Biology, you'd know just how absolutely ridiculous that feat is.Again, I also love how the DBZ fanboys pick one argument and attack it like there's no tomorrow, with no evidence, and then of course, not arguing the main point. What does DBZ being fast have anything to do if you can't prove he can even do damage to Superman? Can you say strawman logical fallacy?
Supes has taken hits from people like Savage Hulk when pumped, someone who can literally rip apart the armor of Onslaught, and Thor, the friggin' God of Thunder; and he comes back for seconds. The scans have already shown how he can pass through energy blasts, so there goes all of Goku's ki blasts, and when it comes to strength, no DBZ supporters have even shown that he has the strength necessary to even hurt him.
And again, wtf does that video prove? Nothing. It only shows Goku is as fast or faster than his contemporaries, that shows nothing about Supes.
Supes can make conscious muscle activity, such as running, flying, vibrating, at ridiculous speed, yet somehow you're trying to convince us that when he fights, his reaction time, physical body speed, and everything else inexplicably DROPS? B!tch please.
Again, is NEO slow because every time something major happens, it goes into bullet time? Answer this please.
You've just shown that there's an aesthetic difference between panels of a cartoon and a kiddy cartoon, that's it. Never mind AND scans have dictated Supes can move, think, and fight with ridiculous speed, and that any one of the various cosmic level entities he fights do too.
Please, if you want to get into a ring, make sure you've get your ass in shape. [/B]
He's trying to say Goku is phasing through attacks in this scan. Take a look at scan #21 (the one where it says "At first Butter and then Jeeth shoot at Goku over and over"😉. Goku is moving out of the way, the other characters just isn't fast enough to see him move.
http://dragonballarena.gamesurf.it/english/media/clips/noaudiohq_dbz_freezer.php
Now take a look at Superman's scan.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1695/supermanfast3hd.jpg
Superman is moving his body so fast, that he's phasing (making his body go intangible) through Doomsday Lightining/Fire Breath (he's inside the Lightning/Fire Breath).
I don't understand how hard it is to get.
Moving your body so fast that you go invisible (or intangible this is what Superman did) >>>>>>>>>>>> dodging attacks but the other characters aren't fast enough to see you moving out of the way (Goku is doing this in video clip #21).
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
the video was only showing sSPEED not who he beat...*Sigh* s on their chest...are you serious....no superman pic had him beating goku...THERE not from the SAME show, by the way.
No sh!t. Where did you learn to debate? Honestly.
I'm saying you need to put in context, otherwise you can't simply say the video speaks for itself. Superman has performed feats that show greater speed if you have any skills of visualization at all. Simply because he's not in a kiddy cartoon does not change this.
^that's almost word for word what I said in another post.
So please, stop asking stupid questions and remarks to which I've ALREADY ADDRESSED. Do you have anything else I've already answered?
Are you trying to show your stupidity? You know, it's better to not say anything and let people think you're stupid than to open your mouth and confirm it.
And please, before you say someone else doesn't comprehend what you say, answer the question I posed for you several times.
Originally posted by jinzin
as far as the DBZ fghters can't blow planets without attacking the core B.S. ummm frieza anyone?500,00 power level and he did it with the tip of his finger.. hmmm
(remembers argument about concentrated energy attacks versus attacks just used for destructive power...)
Originally posted by jinzin
as far as the DBZ fghters can't blow planets without attacking the core B.S. ummm frieza anyone?500,00 power level and he did it with the tip of his finger.. hmmm
(remembers argument about concentrated energy attacks versus attacks just used for destructive power...)
Freeza's Death Ball penetrate towards the planets core (it doesn't take much to destroy the planet anyways because if it's badly damaged, it's going to blow up anyways). And again SSJ3/4 Goku gets hurt by physical attacks that are far less than Superman's punching power, this also goes for there energy blasts, which is only moutain/city destroying blasts (not planetary). One punch is all Superman needs to put Goku out.
Check the clip between ssj2 Majin Vegeta vs. ssj2 Goku inside the cave. Vegeta is trying force ssj2 Goku on a sharpe rock (which proves that they aren't that durable, even in the Majin Buu saga).
Clip #7 shows this.
http://dragonballarena.gamesurf.it/english/media/clips/original_dbz.php
Originally posted by jinzinActually the core shot thing makes much more sense, otherwise its simply not as impressive, because you'd have a "life force" of the planets, which then begs the question "How much energy do you need to kill a planet?"
as far as the DBZ fghters can't blow planets without attacking the core B.S. ummm frieza anyone?500,00 power level and he did it with the tip of his finger.. hmmm
(remembers argument about concentrated energy attacks versus attacks just used for destructive power...)
