Originally posted by K Von Doom
Morg is Silver Surfer level which makes him Apollo's equal, according to the website you've provided. It's a moot point though seeing as Morg's power has been multiplied ten times, Apollo's power is miniscule compared to that.
they are both multiplied by ten.... how does that go from being about equal to one being "miniscule" compared to the other?
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Just regarding Hurricane's prep time, Hurricane supposedly absorbed the information in the books in the Dr Strange-like magic lab. Sorry if someone's already made this point in their arguments but firstly, it says a "Dr Strange level" magical lab, not actually Dr Strange's lab. Secondly, if it is Dr Strange's lab and you absorb the Book of Darkhold, you're instantly corrupted, go insane and the fight's over.
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Yep, resistant but not immune.Firstly though, I haven't seen Doom make any sort of magic nullifier - and seeing as magic is outside the electromagnetic specturm - I'm pretty sure he hasn't made one nor is it possible to make one. Secondly,
I don't think cosmic awareness gives you the ability to find something that you're looking for (something that doesn't exist by the way). And lastly, having cosmic awareness doesn't give you the knowledge to master any type of electronic device, like turning a mutant power nullifier into a magic nullifier.
Via cosmic awareness, Surfer can find his way through space. It helps him locate things.
I wouldn't put anything past Doom as far as the magic nullifier goes, he knows magic himself, he also has nullified mutant powers, so, meh. I don't really care that much. Just trying to put in something.
As for the mastering of devices, if you spent an hour tinkering with a handgun with no prior knowledge of handguns, I'm sure you'd figure it out.
To Digi - If you're counting every fight prior towards your power, so will I. By now Surfer is full of his own righteous fury, and is at least halfway dinged up. I'd say he's well into the same power level as your guy, cause you know, Hulk's power gives him UNLIMITED power, Surfer can use the power cosmic to manipulate this power.
If all else fails, I'd just channel all the energy I could muster into myself then go KABOOM. That'd set off a few stars and pretty much wipe out most of existence. Surfer x10 I'd say is about as strong as the excess power from parallax and spectre fight (not the total power, just the stuff that didn't actually do anything, the runoff) as well as a few normal superheros, thanks to Hulk.
Originally posted by Scoobless
who had Dr. Cain Kallark as their amalgam?... i want to hear more from him
That was gautam. I took a cheap shot at him in the beginning of the thread. Take look at his character.
Originally posted by Sentry
Well since Hurricane is already dead, and General Kinky naked, I'm going to focus on the others for now:gautam's character, Cain Kallark:
[B]Originally posted by gautamattualy Fate learned how to do magic without his helmet on.....also if you come close enough to take my helmet of i would simply rip you apart....my charecter has the stregnth of gladitor and juggernaut he out powers you....also knowing that your charecter had information on mine....i would simply put up a force field of magic and attack you with spells from the other side of it.....from the other side of it I could summon magical creatures and send them to attack you....also I could very quickly teleport outside of the sheild....right behind you...while you are busy with my creatures....and hit you with a very powerful punch....then teleport back into the sheild....and repeat this till you die.....I am pretty sure you cant drain magical creatures...be cause they do not follow the laws of phisics....
I'm gonna try and take you out first, since you are the next biggest magic threat to longpig's character. I'm going to use quotes from your previous matches to do so.
From the battle we had in a crossover, Supreme had the upper hand in that fight, and you sort of backed out of the fight because Glads said he didn't want to destroy galaxies or solar sytems in the wake of there battle. Well anyways, I'm just as fast as you are, and within nanoseconds of melting off Kinky's armor, I bum rush you, and rip your helmet off, making you somewhat susceptible to telepathic attacks. You have the speed of Gladiator, but I have the speed of Genis and Supreme. So, it's most likely you won't be able to react to such an attack as fast as you'd want to. Now, for the magical creatures, my hundreds of solidified light illusions will keep them busy. None of your creatures will even touch me.
With your helmet off, I assault your mind with painful bolts of telepathy. Not controlling your mind, but hurting it. It'll feel like bullets to your brain...(living la vida loca)
While distracted by the pain, I attack you at at speeds faster than light, punching your head multiple times, and then landing a final solid blow, knocking you down all the way down to the surface of Jupiter.
Staring at you hundreds of miles above you, I charge a final farewell gift. A powerful blast charged with combinations of ionic, solar, ambient magical, and cosmic energy... A blast that even the powerful Cain Kallrk cannot survive.
Your done son... [/B]
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Umm... where did you get illusion casting powers? Silver Surfer and Magneto both control energies, neither of them can cast illusions. Dagger and Dazzler both control light, neither of them can cast illusions. I only see Dr Druids magic as your source of illusions, and his ability to cast them aren't on the same level as Dr Strange nor is it proven that he can fool beings with higher level senses, so it'll be wasted effort. Do it if you'd like but you're not tricking anyone. 😛Your fist may land where it's supposed to but what will it hit? A reinforced cosmic/mystic shield? Or nothing at all when I'm intangible?
And Mordred isn't unbalanced - that he works for his own selfish goals or the greater good or turning against allies only puts him in the same category as Dr Doom, which isn't bad company. Unless you're saying Dr Doom is also insane.
Sorry about the attack Sentry, you posted a situation so I had to retaliate immediately 😄
Illusions? Here:
Doctor Druid possesses a number of yogic physical powers. He has control over the involuntary functions of his body, such as his heartbeat, respiration, bleeding, and reaction to pain. He has also developed certain mental powers generally classified as psionic (utilizing an unknown form of energy generated by the mind). Druid has great telepathic capacity, enabling him to broadcast and receive thoughts. He is able to scan virtually any mind or project his thoughts to anyone on Earth, provided he knows where to reach the mind he seeks. He also possesses the ability to mesmerize people to his will, controlling what they see, hear, or do. This mental domination is only possible over those minds who are less adept than his own. His control over a person (or persons) persists until such time as the subject completes the task he or she was given, until Druid willfully releases him or her, or until the effect of the hypnosis loses its potency (generally a matter of hours for most minds). By means of hypnosis, Druid is able to achieve a number of illusory effects: invisibility, power-bolts, transformation, sudden materialization, etc. He also has certain psychokinetic powers, enabling him to levitate objects at will. The maximum weight he can lift with his mind is equivalent to the weight he can lift with his body, approximately 300 pounds. He can even levitate himself off the ground while in meditation, but he does not have sufficient skill to use this levitation to fly to any real extent.
From this link:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/drdruid.htm
And Illusions from this:
Source: Nega-BandsCaptain Marvel is able to manipulate light and project it as illusions.
From this link:
http://capmarvel0.tripod.com/powers.html#negabands
Originally posted by K Von DoomYour fist may land where it's supposed to but what will it hit? A reinforced cosmic/mystic shield? Or nothing at all when I'm intangible
What I would hit? Doesn't matter, you'll feel the impact which will disorient you long enough to land a few more blows on you. Stunned from those blows, I'll absorb the energy within your shields, leaving you vulnerable to my combination attack of concussive force blasts and heat vision.
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Originally posted by K Von DoomAnd Mordred isn't unbalanced - that he works for his own selfish goals or the greater good or turning against allies only puts him in the same category as Dr Doom, which isn't bad company. Unless you're saying Dr Doom is also insane.
Sorry about the attack Sentry, you posted a situation so I had to retaliate immediately
Morgred has attacked his comrades more frequently than Druid did, if that's not unbalanced cough"insane"cough then I don't know what is. 😛
Originally posted by Sentry
What I would hit? Doesn't matter, you'll feel the impact which will disorient you long enough to land a few more blows on you. Stunned from those blows, I'll absorb the energy within your shields, leaving you vulnerable to my combination attack of concussive force blasts and heat vision.Morgred has attacked his comrades more frequently than Druid did, if that's not unbalanced cough"insane"cough then I don't know what is. 😛
Again. Nope, Mordred isn't insane and has never been insane. He has attacked comrades, sure, but on those occasions it's because they're in the way of his own personal goals - he doesn't do it out of insanity. How is it different to Dr Doom turning on Kang during the Infinity War? Or how about the way Dr Doom tried to kidnap Franklin while he was allied with the heroes during end of the Heroes Reborn arc? Or when he tried to nab the Infinity Gauntlet instead of getting out of Thor's way of pummeling Thanos? OMG, Doom must be insane too!!
Morg's has withstood attacks from the Surfer and all the heralds, it won't disorient him. While you're busy trying to absorb all my cosmic power and trying to hurt me with your heat vision, I'll be lopping off your arms and stealing your Nega Bands. 😛
Originally posted by Sentry
He also possesses the ability to mesmerize people to his will, controlling what they see, hear, or do. This mental domination is only possible over those minds who are less adept than his own. By means of hypnosis, Druid is able to achieve a number of illusory effects: invisibility, power-bolts, transformation, sudden materialization, etc.
"By means of hypnosis" & "Minds less adept than his own"? Somehow I don't think Morgred will be falling for this hypnosis ability, hence, no illusion from Dr Druid.
Your not insane, and I'm not insane, let's leave it at that.
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Morg's has withstood attacks from the Surfer and all the heralds, it won't disorient him. While you're busy trying to absorb all my cosmic power and trying to hurt me with your heat vision, I'll be lopping off your arms and stealing your Nega Bands. 😛
Withstood attacks from Surfer and his heralds? Here he is, on the ground after Surfer whoops his but:
Are you sure he didn't have the Waters Of Life when he defeated all those heralds? Surfer alone can take him without it. Genis has fought and beat the tar out of someone similar to Morg, and his name is King Thor, in this comic:
Lopping off my arms? I think not. 🙂
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Via cosmic awareness, Surfer can find his way through space. It helps him locate things.I wouldn't put anything past Doom as far as the magic nullifier goes, he knows magic himself, he also has nullified mutant powers, so, meh. I don't really care that much. Just trying to put in something.
As for the mastering of devices, if you spent an hour tinkering with a handgun with no prior knowledge of handguns, I'm sure you'd figure it out.
Yes. Surfer can navigate his way through space, that's what he was made for. Cosmic awareness doesn't immediately let you know where everything is. From Sentry's Captain Marvel site... Cosmic awareness: Allows Captain Marvel to sense danger on a universal level. As a result, he can perceive objects and individuals, the presence of beings, and cosmic threats cloaked by invisibility or illusions throughout the universe. Locating an object when you don't know what the object is or if it even exists is different.
I'd say a mutant power dampener is a little bit more complicated than pulling the trigger of a handgun. Give the average joe an hour with a particle accelerator and I'm sure they wouldn't know what it did or even how to turn it on.
Originally posted by Sentry
Your not insane, and I'm not insane, let's leave it at that.Withstood attacks from Surfer and his heralds? Here he is, on the ground after Surfer whoops his but:
Are you sure he didn't have the Waters Of Life when he defeated all those heralds? Surfer alone can take him without it. Genis has fought and beat the tar out of someone similar to Morg, and his name is King Thor, in this comic:
Lopping off my arms? I think not. 🙂
Nice pics.
Well, the difference is... nowhere in my bio or appearances does it say that Mordred is insane, but can't really say the same about Dr Druid.
Yes, Morg has withstood attacks from the heralds - Waters of Life or not. Of course, in that pic you're showing one battle where Surfer prevailed. Similar pics can be found where similarly powered individuals wail on their contemporaries: Firelord beats on Surfer, Thing fights Hulk, Eric Masterson Thor pummels Gladiator... etc.
Lopping off your arms? Yes.
SF is the only other person who has posted recently...I would still call into question Zatanna's mastery over Storm's electrical powers, and I really don't believe you'll be able to affect me internally (especially with Loki's internal matter control) but I guess we just disagree on a few things...none of this is anything new really, just reiterating my point since pages are going by damn fast in this thread.
^^digi, this isn't mastery over storms powers, far from it. storm did it w/ ease and in a second. also it was a very long time ago she did this and she has become a lot more powerful since then, so it is no where near mastery over her power. and you were the only one that brought up affecting you internally, so i went along w/ it.
Originally posted by K Von Doom
"By means of hypnosis" & "Minds less adept than his own"? Somehow I don't think Morgred will be falling for this hypnosis ability, hence, no illusion from Dr Druid.
I don't need telepathic illusions to fool you. You will still see and be confused by my light illusions emanating from the nega bands.. Your illusions will not work on me, thanks to my cosmic awareness zeroing you out.
Originally posted by stormfront 13with my shutting-down of the heart and frying of the brain combination i have taken care of.
1)sentry's character - Not a chance. I can control energy pretty much the same way you do, but only on a more powerful scale. Even if you did have some control of my synapses, my control over energy will stall you for a few seconds. A few seconds to me, but an eternity to you since your character lacks speed. Supreme's speed being bolstered by the nega bands = faster than you. A few seconds, you will be nothing more than a puddle of melted flesh and blood.
Sorry stormfront 13.
nothing to be sorry about because it won't happen lol. yes, some of your characters can control energy, but druid can't. he even can't manipulate magical energies lol. if he can't even manipulate the energy he uses then he can't even compete w/ me on trying to protect himself from my attack. seriously you won't even know i am doing it. it'll be a little hard to make me a puddle of flesh and blood when you are
1)dead
2)slower than i am
3)not a fighter
4)not able to control the nega-bands
my shield will absorb all the impact and anything else you throw at it. also my body is made of an indestructruble form of metal, so this will only add to my durability that is higher than yours. you will be dead in the first second and you know it.
sorry sentry
I don't need telepathic illusions to fool you. You will still see and be confused by my light illusions emanating from the nega bands.. Your illusions will not work on me, thanks to my cosmic awareness zeroing you out.
^^sentry, even the guy that has the bands doesn't have fulll control over them, how do you expect to be able to make illusions that are so good when you just got them.