Thor vs. Hulk

Started by aliveinboston141 pages

Originally posted by diabloman

thor didnt do a damn thing to juggy. so yah hulk can knock out thor as well.

Where's the logic in that? Maxam picked up Hercules and tossed him into the ocean. That makes him stronger than Hercules? Goliath picked up and smashed hercules against the floor hard enough to knock him out. That makes Goliath stronger than Hercules? Juggernaut picking up and tossing Thor and throwing in a couple of hits while he has Thor off his feet isnt overcoming someone with strength.

As for why Thor didnt hurt Juggernaut with his blows, its because of Juggernauts cytorrak protection. Obviously the people writing this story forgot a lot of things about Thor's previous encounters with the Juggernaut. Such as when he disabled the Juggernaut's magical protection (which is sturdier than Galactus) using his hammer and then beat the crap out of the Juggernaut with his bare hands and was about to KO him in 60 seconds.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Rubbish. If youre referring to the fight where Thor threw the hammer away, it was apparent the Hulk was not able to overcome Thor with his fists and resorted to using weapons much larger than the 50lb hammer he was so scared of.

We have seen repeatedly that Hulk is not stronger than Thor in tests of actual strength. Hulk does have much better healing ability. And that is just regular inhibited Thor. When Thor cuts loose his power keeps increasing. It's no surprise that even Maestro admitted that Thor could take him down. It's no surprise that he easily overcame Drax the Destroyer and Maxam combined, or the Silver Surfer and Warlock combined.

More rubbish.

Thor himself has admitted that Hulk is stronger, just not as powerful.

meh... I win. 😎

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Thor himself has admitted that Hulk is stronger, just not as powerful.

You mean after the Hulk savagely ambushed him and Thor was still subconciously holding back when fighting mortals? Given the number of times Thor has said the Hulk's strength matches his own it's fair to say he was referring to the resilience of the hulk who had just a little earlier been KOd.

In fact, in a different fight, after Thor smashes the hulk and sees the hulk recover immediately Thor says "is there no limit to his strength". Lifting ability has nothing to do with resilience, endurance or speed of recovery so it's apparent that when Thor means strength, he isnt just referring to lifting capability.

We have seen that in actual tests of strength or in pitched battles Thor has no trouble keeping up with the hulk and Thor has also said many times that the Hulk's strength equals or almost matches his own.

In fact, we also see that when Thor is willing to cut loose, his strength keeps increasing so much that he is eventually able to easily take out characters as almost as strong or stronger than the hulk in pairs.

It's then no surprise that with just one-arm he actually killed both the Hulk and the Thing in the same fight.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
You mean after the Hulk savagely ambushed him and Thor was still subconciously holding back when fighting mortals? Given the number of times Thor has said the Hulk's strength matches his own it's fair to say he was referring to the resilience of the hulk who had just a little earlier been KOd.

In fact, in a different fight, after Thor smashes the hulk and sees the hulk recover immediately Thor says "is there no limit to his strength". Lifting ability has nothing to do with resilience, endurance or speed of recovery so it's apparent that when Thor means strength, he isnt just referring to lifting capability.

We have seen that in actual tests of strength or in pitched battles Thor has no trouble keeping up with the hulk and Thor has also said many times that the Hulk's strength equals or almost matches his own.

In fact, we also see that when Thor is willing to cut loose, his strength keeps increasing so much that he is eventually able to easily take out characters as almost as strong or stronger than the hulk in pairs.

It's then no surprise that with just one-arm he actually killed both the Hulk and the Thing in the same fight.

Thats right

How can Hulk be stronger than Thor? If you haven't read any of the recent Thor comics; Thor possesses the Odinforce, which enables him to tap into infinite resources of cosmic and mystical, enhancing all of his abilities. With the vast magical power of the Odinforce, Thor was able to even dent Captain America’s shield with Mjolnir, something that an enraged Hulk hasn't been able to do.

We also saw how superior in strength Thor is to Hulk, when he physically killed an enraged Hulk and Thing with one hand. The said thing is, is that Thor is even stronger now.

Recently Thor killed Mangog with one hand in seconds, a character who can increase his strength through hate like Hulk increases his strength through rage. So tell me Hulk fans, how Hulk even has a chance?

You wanna know how Hulks gnna die? like this

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/04Thor.jpg

or like this

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thor2.jpg

how about This?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/page0156lp.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/page0203wn.jpg

This would be too easy

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/ThorvsPresence1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/ThorvsPresence2.jpg
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I like this way

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/page0164hx.jpg
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Hulk is stronger than Thor it's been proven, but Thor is a better fighter and more powerful in other areas. Everytime Thor and Hulk throw down it's usual Hulk who gets the better of him most of the time, but to Thor credit he doesn't want to hurt the Hulk or kill him. But if was a all out battle Hulk will get smoke everytime, warrior madness thor still isn't strong enough to beat Hulk, when "ghost of future" past where the current hulk became mastero hulk the two went at it, in all out brawl and hulk still kicked his ass in a brawl.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
You mean after the Hulk savagely ambushed him and Thor was still subconciously holding back when fighting mortals? Given the number of times Thor has said the Hulk's strength matches his own it's fair to say he was referring to the resilience of the hulk who had just a little earlier been KOd.

In fact, in a different fight, after Thor smashes the hulk and sees the hulk recover immediately Thor says "is there no limit to his strength". Lifting ability has nothing to do with resilience, endurance or speed of recovery so it's apparent that when Thor means strength, he isnt just referring to lifting capability.

We have seen that in actual tests of strength or in pitched battles Thor has no trouble keeping up with the hulk and Thor has also said many times that the Hulk's strength equals or almost matches his own.

In fact, we also see that when Thor is willing to cut loose, his strength keeps increasing so much that he is eventually able to easily take out characters as almost as strong or stronger than the hulk in pairs.

It's then no surprise that with just one-arm he actually killed both the Hulk and the Thing in the same fight.

The very same What IF series had The Punisher kill Spiderman. Would that ever happen? No, It wouldn't. I mean, come on, those stories are made for shock value mostly. Do you really think that would happen? Well, maybe to a non-pissed Hulk, but not otherwise. The other fight was in a Thor comic and defeated itself by having Capt. America being the only character to offer resistance. Also, killing the Hulk by impaling impaling him is a major sign of poor writing.

And ofcourse Thor has no trouble "keeping up" with him. He's a god. But in the end, Hulk always proves to be stronger. Thor has never phsyically defeated Hulk in anyway. The other way around, though..... Hulk smacked him so hard he just couldn't get up for a while. He can't kill him, obviously, but he did harm him. Why? Because Thor is stupid and arrogant enough to go toe to toe with him.

We've seen him increasing his strength? Yes. We've also seen the Hulk increasing his strength thousand fold in a matter of seconds. Point being? I mean, Thor will give Hulk a good fight, but he just can't physically beat him without PIS. The Hulk is Marvel's poster boy of raw, physical strength. Fact. Also, Thor is going to need a hell of a lot of physical power if he wants to wear down an enraged Hulk. He gave it his best(physically) in the fight with Mindless Hulk and it didn't do a single thing.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Here you go

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/page0115ff.jpg
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or He could just do this to Hulk

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/kingthor18yx.jpg
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Or Thor could do this

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thor2.jpg

Is that what you needed? There are so many ways Thor can and would defeat Hulk it's not even funny.

You said because Hulk has a healing factor that he cant die? How could that be true? Just because he has a healing factor, that doesn't mean that he cant be overloaded with pain.

Is Hulk fighting regular Thor or King Thor? The first two sets of scans feature King Thor and the amulet that Strange slipped around his neck could only blunt his powers at best, and Thor stripped it off effortlessly once his son was safe so I doubt it affected his power level appreciably.

I do think Thor takes this at least 8/10. Hulk's no Juggernaut when it comes to durability. One Godblast should kill Hulk dead. Not merely defeat him, but kill him. The Godblast isn't a simple laser beam.

If by chance Hulk does survive then Thor does have the ability to absorb radiation with Mjolnir. Again, Hulk dies.

Originally posted by branhole
actully meastro has all the powers as hulk but is twice as strong, so he is a beafed up hulk. so meastro is a lot stronger. hulk takes it h2h but with the hammer thor wins.
no his base strnght is higher but base strength means nuthin if u actually know about hulk an his battles, like abomination yea his base strength is higher to but wat good has that done him 🙄 oh an stop sayin maestro an war are beefed up cause their base strength is their only difference

Thor's way too versatilve for hulk to get more than a couple of wins
Thor 7-8/10

an the point of that post i just did was to say if maestro can take it u better believe an enraged hulk 😮‍💨

No, not really...enraged hulk isnt maestro, theres a difference.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Where's the logic in that? Maxam picked up Hercules and tossed him into the ocean. That makes him stronger than Hercules? Goliath picked up and smashed hercules against the floor hard enough to knock him out. That makes Goliath stronger than Hercules? Juggernaut picking up and tossing Thor and throwing in a couple of hits while he has Thor off his feet isnt overcoming someone with strength.

As for why Thor didnt hurt Juggernaut with his blows, its because of Juggernauts cytorrak protection. Obviously the people writing this story forgot a lot of things about Thor's previous encounters with the Juggernaut. Such as when he disabled the Juggernaut's magical protection (which is sturdier than Galactus) using his hammer and then beat the crap out of the Juggernaut with his bare hands and was about to KO him in 60 seconds.

i coulda sworn u used that in the hulk juggs forum to help ur arguement it might have been u it was probaly branhole nevermind continue

Originally posted by Mr.V
No, not really...enraged hulk isnt maestro, theres a difference.
ur right hulks stronger tougher an did i miss sumthin

more savage there u go

Maestro admitted that the Savage Hulk is too much for him, because of his rage effciency. Maestro, although bat**** insane, is too intelligent. And because of this intelligence, he has a true agenda. He has has more complex goals and desires than Savage Hulk. And therein lies the problem: Maestro is smart enough to know(both instinctually and intellectually) that going berserk is likely to screw up his plans. It may help him prove he's "the strongest one there is", but it can't help him formulate and realize a plot.

thank u dinalfos i only wish i could keep my cool amongst this sea of complete idiots

Not all of them are idiots, ofcourse.

ur right but vast majority 😉

Again I will point out

"How can Hulk be stronger than Thor? If you haven't read any of the recent Thor comics; Thor possesses the Odinforce, which enables him to tap into infinite resources of cosmic and mystical, enhancing all of his abilities. With the vast magical power of the Odinforce, Thor was able to even dent Captain America’s shield with Mjolnir, something that an enraged Hulk hasn't been able to do.

We also saw how superior in strength Thor is to Hulk, when he physically killed an enraged Hulk and Thing with one hand. The said thing is, is that Thor is even stronger now.

Recently Thor killed Mangog with one hand in seconds, a character who can increase his strength through hate like Hulk increases his strength through rage. So tell me Hulk fans, hows Hulk even has a chance?