[QUOTE=4392320]Originally posted by olympian
[B]Facts? How about showing me where Hulk has Thor laying down in the ground all beat up. After all he is - much- stronger isent he?
...Err actually I have seen that very pic in one of these threads - you might want to jump back a few pages and a have a better look, I would say Thor with his head caved into the ground looking DEAD with Hulk walking away would justify just that?
Why some people fail to acknowledge facts presented by Marvel themselves and implement their own ideas as dogma is still beyond me...after all Thor MUST be stronger because YOU said so REGARDLESS of what Marvel might say eh 😄
I actually have a full explanation and description where Marvel actually STATES that the Hulk is the MOST powerful physical being in the Universe...Now of course i claim to be no expert, but when Marvel says somthing IS a fact, im pretty sure its not somthing they made up.
While we are on that point - you might want to enlighten me and tell me exactly what category Thor actually excels in more than any other MU being? It certainly isnt strength, not speed, not agility, not magic...nor anything else for that matter.
Once again we came back to the issue of exactly HOW is Thor going to defeat the most powerful physical being in the MU...not going to happen Im afraid - he may have got lucky several times, and im not saying the Hulk is unbeatable - but even at base strength he is near unstoppable LET ALONE where his unlimited strength kicks in. No other MU/DC being (non cosmic) has the ability to increase their strength beyond their own limits and even if they do it is not UNLIMITED.
"..Err actually I have seen that very pic in one of these threads - you might want to jump back a few pages and a have a better look, I would say Thor with his head caved into the ground looking DEAD with Hulk walking away would justify just that?"
Except he wasent dead 😖hifty: there is no fight that had Thor in the ground Ko while Hulk walks off. He always gets back. Like Hulk does against him.
"Why some people fail to acknowledge facts presented by Marvel themselves and implement their own ideas as dogma is still beyond me...after all Thor MUST be stronger because YOU said so REGARDLESS of what Marvel might say eh "
What marvel says for me its what its -show- in comics. Facts are what the comic shows. Its simple. He has the potencial to overcome Thor and the like, but doesnt usually do it. And definatly not in theyr fights. And you dont see me saying Thor is much stronger unlike you regarding Hulk bubs...
"While we are on that point - you might want to enlighten me and tell me exactly what category Thor actually excels in more than any other MU being?"
P o W e R.
"he may have got lucky several times, and im not saying the Hulk is unbeatable"
And this is where your arguments fails. He has the strengh to compete with hulk, its how Marvel always wrote him. Its how theyr fights always went. Its what they show. So if he beats Hulk hes lucky but the other way it isent?
Who woulda know. Your more correct than the comics itself.
Dont feel bad just because Marvel made Thor a physical beast and powerful while Hulk is just a physical beast. None of theyr fights are to be easy.
" Lucky " eh.
"I would say Thor with his head caved into the ground looking DEAD with Hulk walking away would justify just that?"
Well you see, I've always remember the times when Spidey fights Hulk 😎 What most of the time happens is Spidey uses Hulk own strength and bring the caves down and things like that. Hulk will be in the rumbles while Spidey swings away. Now will that justify if i give the wins to Spiderman? 😉
You said Thor was looking dead but he is not dead and that was what fustrates the Hulk. Hulk kept saying "stay down, stay down hulk need to win" and mind you this was Thor without Mjolnir. Hulk's strength in that fight would have way exceeded Thor's own. But that strength could not stop the limited strength Thor from coming back and fighting. In the End Hulk was the one who gave up the fight while Thor went to pursue it. Hulk even said "Hulk is the strongest, stronger than any man but Thor is not man but god".
Originally posted by long pig
Defenders#10
Hulk was unable to overpower Thor while engaged in a strength lock.
I can bring up one time things like anyone else can.Thor holds back on Hulk all the time, if he didn't he'd kill him.
a contest of strenght.......even in thor's comic Hulk is stronger than him
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