Originally posted by chilled monkey
I do not understand why people seem to think that EU is some kind of blasphemy. As long as it doesn't contradict anything from the movies, why shouldn't it be included? It adds to the SW 'universe', makes things deeper and more interesting.
Absolutely, it ties all the loose ends and answers all the unanswered questions, kinda like a spin-off series.
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Absolutely, it ties all the loose ends and answers all the unanswered questions, kinda like a spin-off series.
yeah, ties up the lose ends of your not imagination. Use your own mind. EU sucks cause someone other than Lucas worte it. Its like you writing a star wars novel, everyone is interested, its just the writers who take advantage of it
Originally posted by Robin Darkside
yeah, ties up the lose ends of your not imagination. Use your own mind. EU sucks cause someone other than Lucas worte it. Its like you writing a star wars novel, everyone is interested, its just the writers who take advantage of it
So what?? Someone has to write it to explain shit. There aint gonna be subtitles, captions, pop-ups, or whatever-became-of's during the movie. During ROTS there's not gonna be subtitle that says "Ki-Adi-Mundi had a second heart in his skull to nourish his large brain which explains his large cranuim." There has to be authors for that. 'Naw mean??
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
So what?? Someone has to write it to explain shit. There aint gonna be subtitles, captions, pop-ups, or whatever-became-of's during the movie. During ROTS there's not gonna be subtitle that says "Ki-Adi-Mundi had a second heart in his skull to nourish his large brain which explains his large cranuim." There has to be authors for that. 'Naw mean??
I dont know EU, only cause I want, but, wtf, a Jedi craves not these tings? a Jedi, is a person who takes on respnosibility, and tries his best to support the senate.
When people come out of control, or are weak, they show weaknesss (not like americans, fellow democrats), wouldn;t this world work easier with, an EMPIRE, Liberal shit will be out the door, our perception of things only dwells, on what we are broughten to learn.
men can not be trusted
Define long-term people. That could be used as reference to senior citizens. Duh!
Whoever started raving about the EU...well...George Lucas did not write the EU stuff! As fun as it may be to read EU and write EU, it actually has nothing to do with the movies unless George wrote it. And if George wrote it/said it, it ain't EU.
Sidious didn't use Lightning to 'torment' Luke. He was using it to KILL Luke. Otherwise, Luke would have been sitting there for awhile going "Ow...Ow...Ow..." rather than "Oh shit! Daddy, help, I'm being fried like a crispy bacon Jedi hamburger at Carl's Jr!"
Jedi can't use Lightning. The definition of the Sith Lightning stuff is 'a concentration of hatred/anger turned into painful energy' or something similar.
Jedi can use Grip. Luke used the choking trick, but didn't use it to slaughter those two Gamorreans. Just enough to startle them and get them to back off. Sith use to the crush things...and not just windpipes.
I agree with Robin Darkside, EU is crap. granted there are a few good books, but in general EU is crap.
the writers take things too far and it takes away from certain aspects of the movies.
like in EU exar kun is the strongest sith ever. in the movies Palpatine is the strongest sith ever.
if you take EU and add it as being equal to the movies when you see palpatine you think, hes ok, but not the best. but lucas had intended for you to think "ohh shit this guys the most badass sith lord, these jedi are screwed"
this happens in a lot of EU, and thats what bothers me about it. IF a book or a game does not take away anything from the movies and only adds to it then i have no problem with it. like the EU book "The New Rebellion" this book is awesome because its true to the movies. amazingly true to the movies. games like KOTOR are not true to the movies when they have insanely powerful sith lords who can "destroy the force" and all this crap. it takes away from Anakin and the prophecy and it takes away from palpatine etc. etc.
i could go on and on but i dont want too.
Agreed, EU ruins the power heirarchy that Lucas has spent a half his life developing. When you see Yoda, you are supposed to think he is the strongest Jedi of all time. You aren't supposed to think, ya he's alright for movie times, but in ancient times he would have got his ass handed to him. And anomoly, your right about palps too. When we see him on screen, we are supposed to think there has been nothing like him. No sith power as dark or as powerful as him. But all we hear is, ya he's good, but Reven or Kun or the exile would destroy him in a second.
This is why I hate EU. I don't feel I can be a true fan of the movies, and also enjoy the EU. Everytime I read something, i'm always saying, WHATEVER !!! that's not how it would be at all...
Anyway, Vader CAN use force lightning. He just doesn't in the movies. He is more of a force choke man.
It's like, I really need a chick with a nice ass. Does that mean I can't appreciate a nice set of t1ts? No.
Vader loves the force choke, but if it came down to it, he could use lightning if he wanted too. His fake hands have nothing to do with it. It's external, not internal.
Originally posted by Vanquish
Agreed, EU ruins the power heirarchy that Lucas has spent a half his life developing. When you see Yoda, you are supposed to think he is the strongest Jedi of all time. You aren't supposed to think, ya he's alright for movie times, but in ancient times he would have got his ass handed to him. And anomoly, your right about palps too. When we see him on screen, we are supposed to think there has been nothing like him. No sith power as dark or as powerful as him. But all we hear is, ya he's good, but Reven or Kun or the exile would destroy him in a second.This is why I hate EU. I don't feel I can be a true fan of the movies, and also enjoy the EU. Everytime I read something, i'm always saying, WHATEVER !!! that's not how it would be at all...
Anyway, Vader CAN use force lightning. He just doesn't in the movies. He is more of a force choke man.
It's like, I really need a chick with a nice ass. Does that mean I can't appreciate a nice set of t1ts? No.
Vader loves the force choke, but if it came down to it, he could use lightning if he wanted too. His fake hands have nothing to do with it. It's external, not internal.
yes, reading EU is all good, entertainment wise, just dont take it to heart from what the movies show us and Lucas's perspective
An interesting concept indeed. As far as I am aware, only the dark side may use what is deemed 'Sith Lightning'. I have not heard of the Jedi being able to conjure it ; 'The Jedi possess no exact equivalent to sucha dark use of the force' (Episode 2 Visual Dictionary). There are few Jedi who can reflect Sith Lightning wihtout the aid of a lightsabre. Windu showed this in Ep3. I believe only Yoda is able to deflect sith lihgtning using his hands.
Dooku's was not as experienced with Sithlihgtning as Sidious. Remember, Sidious' main stranght was his lightning. He seldom used his lightsabre, especially as he aged. As Anakin, perhaps lightingn would have been a possibility. As Vader, absoluetly not. He cannot conjure it, nor 'is he invulnerable towards it'. It was a gift of the Sith. A dark use of the force only.
Vanquish, he'd still fry himself. It comes from the finger tips...which he has metal ones that are wired to the rest of his metal suit, so he would be one cooked Sith Lord if he even tried.
Anakin's lightning would have been just plain scary, if he had ever become skilled with it. All that hate... *twitch*
Nah, I think force lightning is external. Unless it is actually shot at someone, there is no danger to the user. Sids and Dooku don't have to worry about blocking their own lightning when they shoot it because it never touches them. If it was an internal skill that is conjured and somehow absorbed through the fingers, then wouldn't those two guys hurt themselves when they shoot it, or at least have to waste force energy blocking it?
Nah, vader could shoot it out of his own hands and it would never interfere with his own suit. He is only in danger if someone else shoots it at him, or if his own is reflected back. The reason he got hurt in ROTJ is because he grabbed on to palps and got fried.
Originally posted by Vanquish
Nah, I think force lightning is external. Unless it is actually shot at someone, there is no danger to the user. Sids and Dooku don't have to worry about blocking their own lightning when they shoot it because it never touches them. If it was an internal skill that is conjured and somehow absorbed through the fingers, then wouldn't those two guys hurt themselves when they shoot it, or at least have to waste force energy blocking it?Nah, vader could shoot it out of his own hands and it would never interfere with his own suit. He is only in danger if someone else shoots it at him, or if his own is reflected back. The reason he got hurt in ROTJ is because he grabbed on to palps and got fried.
I agree. I also add that the EU is not crap. if we satisfy ourselves with only the movies then we would die of thirst 😛
Originally posted by Captain REX
Vader can't conjure lightning! Sids and Dooku both have actual flesh and bone hands, Vader is the walking lightning rod with two mechanical hands! He couldn't and shouldn't and wouldn't, because it would be the end of him.
The walking lightning rod is MY quote 😛
Anyway, no, Vader would not be able to do lightning. He'd make himself crispier than he already is.