Originally posted by StyleTimeYou're just measuring travelling speed. Which does not automatically translate to combat speed. That's incorrect. Unless you provide on-panel proof that Beast can match or surpass Wolverine's combat speed ability to throw 25 punches in one second, Wolverine wins. So there.
Beast is a class 100 mach speedster with a sick healing factor. Don't let these guys tell you otherwise, pea55.Fight the good fight.
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You know that it takes Wolverine .038 seconds to chamber and throw a fully extended punch? That makes his combat reflexes 8-10 times faster than the average humans finger tip reaction time (as in Wolverine could punch you 8 times while you were doing one of those internet reaction time tests where you press a button when you see a light flash). Beast might be able to out run him, but Wolverine's combat speed is greater than Beasts.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're just measuring travelling speed. Which does not automatically translate to combat speed. That's incorrect. Unless you provide on-panel proof that Beast can match or surpass Wolverine's combat speed ability to throw 25 punches in one second, Wolverine wins. So there.uhuh
Originally posted by The Transporter
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Seems physically impossible to me, for wolverine to be faster than beast. Even if Wolverine's body allowed him to strike faster than Beast, he can't think as fast as Beast, whose mind is by far superior. Which means that his nerves can send messages to his brain at a much faster rate than Wolverine could. It would be the equivalent of trying trade punches with a man-sized mantis shrimp . You'd pretty much be like "what the **** just happened?! I don't think Wolverine's muscle tissue could handle the stress of striking FASTER than Beast without pulling a muscle or having to heal a significant amount muscle fiber. Nor do I think Wolverine's brain can keep up with or even comprehend striking at such speeds, something beast could do without having to consciously think about it. Beast's strength isn't it all because of his size, but more so because his muscles are denser than average (that's the reason a human-sized Olypian god can lift a tractor trailer). Because his muscles are more dense, they can handle more stress. Now how Wolverine can punch faster than Beast, I don't know. But for a fact I do know that Beast would be more explosive (thus quicker) for a short period of time before physical exertion takes a toll on him and Wolverine's durability prevails.
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Beast is a genius, but there is no indication that he has super nerve induction or that neurons in his brain are firing at an accelerated rate, or that his mind works any faster than a standard street level human. Where did you get all this misinformation?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Comic books. Take a look. It's in a book.
Originally posted by pea55
Oh wow I would've never guessed...how could I be so stupid knowing that they're comic book characters??? LMMFAO!!!!! How about you take my winning point to you for example and give me a direct source like I did... That is if u have a source being that you have not given one yet!
You citied a wiki page. 😆
Go read some comics and come back with scans or issue numbers.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Beast is a genius, but there is no indication that he has super nerve induction or that neurons in his brain are firing at an accelerated rate, or that his mind works any faster than a standard street level human. Where did you get all this misinformation?
Personally, I think it's a lot less outlandish than Wolverine throwing 25 punches in a single second. In fact, I'd be the first person to call out PIS if he ever did that to Beast.
If Beast is a genius, do you not think it logical for him to process thoughts faster? If his mind is more powerful, and he has an animalistic reaction time, it's only logical for his body to transmit commands to his brain at a
much faster rate. Even taking "super nerve induction" out of the picture, there's still the muscle density factor.
To Wolverine sympathizers' defense, Beast is in no way capable of lifting 100 tons, whether it be in simian form or cat form. I think there's an epidemic going around here where people keep adding an extra 0, lol. And if he was, he'd take Wolverine out of the picture via bfr.
Originally posted by The Transporter
Personally, I think it's a lot less outlandish than Wolverine throwing 25 punches in a single second. In fact, I'd be the first person to call out PIS if he ever did that to Beast.If Beast is a genius, do you not think it logical for him to process thoughts faster? If his mind is more powerful, and he has an animalistic reaction time, it's only logical for his body to transmit commands to his brain at a
much faster rate. Even taking "super nerve induction" out of the picture, there's still the muscle density factor.To Wolverine sympathizers' defense, Beast is in no way capable of lifting 100 tons, whether it be in simian form or cat form. I think there's an epidemic going around here where people keep adding an extra 0, lol. And if he was, he'd take Wolverine out of the picture via bfr.
Do you think that Steven Hawking in a working body would be faster than Bruce Lee, because he is an uber genius? Wolverine has shown his reaction time to be too fast for telepaths to read effectively on two separate occasions. .038 seconds was the speed listed on panel as the time it takes for Wolverine to chamber and throw a bunch. Wolverine is fast, and his speed feats are significantly better than Beasts.
Also Wolverine's muscles and bones (without Adamantium) are far denser than normal humans, not as much more as Sabretooth who's muscles have been described as being akin to corded steel, but still above baseline.
Besides...try throwing one punch in one second. Now, try punching twice in one second. You're not hitting as hard when you punch twice compared to when you just punch once right? Now imagine how much weaker your punches would be if you tried punching 25 times in one second. So let's assume Wolverine were to throw 25 punches at Beast, and they all landed. It probably wouldn't damage Beast much not would it? In fact, it probably would just brush or cut his face a little and make him angry. The truth is, with each extra punch Wolverine throws in that one second, the less power there'll be behind each blow since there's really not that much time in between to "cock" a punch. What's my reference/reasoning behind my comment, you may ask? It's just physics people. Something Beast will kick our asses and Wolverine's in. Can you imagine how many different ways Beast would have formulated to take out Wolverine in the period of time throughout their fight? My mind would shatter if given that much brain power.
