ultimate colossus VS. current *cant lift anything* juggernaut

Originally posted by colossus17
dammit he is not gay i just made that joke casue i knew people would say it...i think the writers are playing with his sexuality i dont think he is really gay.....he just cares for wolverine.......alot.....

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😎 There actually has been some talks about marvel bringing Peter out. To help broaden their readership with the switch hitters out there. Which somewhat makes sense with the without questioned gayish tendencies he's had throughout his tattered past. And with the Xmen be the outcasts in MU being muties and all. Their thinking that it has maybe a better chance of smoothing over into the mainstream. If thats true and that happens? surprise 😎

Gay or not Ult. Colossus wins.

Okay.

1. I, too, say Colossus wins.

2. Juggy is still as durable as ever, just not as strong. Colossus won't be HURTING Juggs anytime soon. But he can sure beat him down. But at the same time, Colossus has always been pretty much an inch below invulnerability. So, durability wise, it's not too much of a difference honestly. Juggs gets it from magic, Colossus gets it from his super-dense organic metal body.

3. Colossus is BY FAR the superior fighter, training with all of the X-men including Cyclops and Wolverine. He's become a great strategist and tactician, he doesn't just barge into brawls anymore, though he still could if he wanted to.

4. If we're talking Ultimate Colossus, I'd say that he is easily stronger, even if not by much, than current Juggy. Ult. Colossus has shown to be quite the powerhouse in terms of strength while current Juggy has not.

5. Colossus is SO MUCH more agile than Juggy. He could probably hit him several times before Juggy swang a massive arm. Colossus can also dodge well. I've seen him perform low-class acrobatics such as flipping and whatnot. Which is saying something when your body weighs up in the 700-800 lbs range. I have yet to see Juggs flip.

6. I also believe that Colossus just has much more heart than Juggy to be completely honest.

7. I don't believe Colossus to be gay. Although I wouldn't doubt that he has bisexual tendencies at all. He's had certain conversations with Wolverine, but he's also expressed strong feelings for one of the females on the team (Storm if I remember correctly). So if he's bisexual, that makes a bit more sense, and it's pretty cool that they would take the strongest mutant out there and do that him. I think that's pretty ballsy and I like the move by writers. As long as they keep him as hardcore as he is, I could care less.

And those are my reasons. Thank you. I'll be here all night.

I agree with most of the things you said. For instance I'm pretty sure jugg's durability has also been weakened also but I still would put it a a notch or two above Colossus.
Also I don't agree with the heart thing. I would have given to Colossus in the past but current Jugg's has shown plenty of heart I beleive he took on someone who was supposed to have twice his strength and beat him.
Still this fight goes easliy to Colossus for the reasons you stated above.
He just outclasses Jugg's in the area's most important in this fight. Jugg's durability isn't a factor in this fight because Colossus I feel is strong enough to hurt Juggs now. Plus he is the superior fighter and more agile.

Exactly. I appreciate what you said.

Originally posted by newjak86
Juggernaut is not to be underestimated.
He may be depowered but he is still a powerhouse of destruction.
Though the problem here is Juggs is still getting used to being depowered and hasn't trained in hand to hand the way Colossus has.
Plus Colossus I think is still faster than Juggs a better fighter than him too.
Juggs could still be a little stronger than Metal Man but not by much.
In fact I would say juggs is a little weaker than him but I think Juggs is a little more durable still.
In the end though I think Colossus takes this he's better at fighting at this range of strength.
Jugg's is still getting used to it and and is unable to just barge in and take everything you throw at him then break you in half.
Colossus simply works him over and basically gives Jugg's a beat down like he's has never experienced before.

great point 😮‍💨

Thank you

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Juggs should still be a lot more durable. I don't see how Colossus wins, even if he is stronger.

-DM

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
great point 😮‍💨

Originally posted by colossus17
yes yes ultimate colossus is gay....juggs wont be walking for a few months.....

Ult Colossus wins. Also, he leans a little to the left, as shown when he tried to "hit" on Wolvie. And when he was with Longshot--who played him like a fiddle. Poor Pete, at least he's like the third strongest in Ultimate Marvel.

Cain has been nerfed beyond recognition: He was straining BEFORE he reached Colossus' level in the danger room. He also bleeds when he's hit now, and Iceman can actually move him with his blasts.

lol resisted magnetos pull what was magneto pulling exactly 😕

next guy who makes a gay joke...gets it......

Originally posted by colossus17
next guy who makes a gay joke...gets it......

for the same reason......that batman gets hard every time he sneaks behind superman.......2 can play this game my friend....

Originally posted by colossus17
for the same reason......that batman gets hard every time he sneaks behind superman.......2 can play this game my friend....

and by the way only Batgirl gets him hard 😉

lines are meant to be crossed.....and dont forget robin the boy wonder.......gee....i wonder why he is called "the boy wonder"

batman and colossus would make a good couple colossus can get hard and batman can get the bat lube out 😆

Originally posted by black robb
shockyou have crossed the line my friend...disgust

and by the way only Batgirl gets him hard 😉

And even if he was gay he could do better than a hairy canadian midget.
Batman could bone Denzel Washington!(If he was gay,which he is not!)

Originally posted by daniel18
batman and colossus would make a good couple colossus can get hard and batman can get the bat lube out 😆

you are going to be next son

Originally posted by colossus17
lines are meant to be crossed.....and dont forget robin the boy wonder.......gee....i wonder why he is called "the boy wonder"