Originally posted by LordFear
Care to elaborate on CRT?
I don't know the terminology!!
Wing Chu. I have seen that being practiced before. Interesting style.
I thought he it to be very effective
CRT is a martial arts system based upon reactive scenarios. So, you're taught essentially like, "If your opponent does this, you do this" and it's drilled into your head over and over and over again. The theory behind it is that eventually it becomes second nature so in a real fight, when "somebody does this, you do this". The problem is, somebody won't always "do this", and when they don't "do this", you just react instinctively with less than good results.
I've fought CRT guys before (not specifically Krav Maga), and they always impressed me when they say, "ok, let me show you a move. Throw a right hook" and they do something really cool. I have yet to be impressed with us actually fighting and they're trying endlessly to catch my punch and use move #286.
Wing Chun, rather than using CRT, or using forms/kata like karate does to train its users, use drills instead designed to improve reaction time and sensitivity. Exercises include things like Chi Sau, which allows you to develop your ability to tie together techniques in entirely reactive, improvised combat situations. Eventually you become so adept at it that you start doing the exercises blindfolded because you develop an understanding of fighting psychology and can intuit how your opponent will attack and develop a spontaneous defense against anything he throws. Does that make sense?
There are other systems too that I admire, and if you're interested I can talk about them, even though it's sorta off-topic.
Oh, CRT stands for "combat reactive training", by the way.
Aikido isn't a system I recommend for fighting. It's slow and requires A LOT of dedication to get anything out of it. I've fought guys who trained in Aikido for 20 years and are absolutely useless in combat. BUT, I've also fought guys who trained in Aikido for five years and are quite good. You have to be TOTALLY dedicated to it, and you have to have a body/mind that's compatible with it to get anything out of it. It's a dice roll, in my opinion. If you want to learn how to fight, there are far better options.
Originally posted by demigawd
CRT is a martial arts system based upon reactive scenarios. So, you're taught essentially like, "If your opponent does this, you do this" and it's drilled into your head over and over and over again. The theory behind it is that eventually it becomes second nature so in a real fight, when "somebody does this, you do this". The problem is, somebody won't always "do this", and when they don't "do this", you just react instinctively with less than good results.I've fought CRT guys before (not specifically Krav Maga), and they always impressed me when they say, "ok, let me show you a move. Throw a right hook" and they do something really cool. I have yet to be impressed with us actually fighting and they're trying endlessly to catch my punch and use move #286.
Wing Chun, rather than using CRT, or using forms/kata like karate does to train its users, use drills instead designed to improve reaction time and sensitivity. Exercises include things like Chi Sau, which allows you to develop your ability to tie together techniques in entirely reactive, improvised combat situations. Eventually you become so adept at it that you start doing the exercises blindfolded because you develop an understanding of fighting psychology and can intuit how your opponent will attack and develop a spontaneous defense against anything he throws. Does that make sense?
There are other systems too that I admire, and if you're interested I can talk about them, even though it's sorta off-topic.
Yeah I know it's off topic but I wouldn't mind you sharing some of your views and opinions of various systems. You are totally correct about Krav Maga, it is CRT. I see what you are saying because what if the scenarios are not what you encounter in real life. Apparently the higher level (expert) teachs or speaks about it. Again I have yet to get over the intermediate part which is the automatic
Originally posted by LordFear
hOW did it bore you?
did you have an instructor/mentor?
I took a class from this gal named Karen, and she was so like, too hardcore, I guess. She had no sense humor, and was just like monotonous, and boring. Also yoga helps more with my work, so I can stay in shape and benifit other aspects of my life.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Bah the brain death isn't a mear spell, it is a superhuman feat that can't be resisted, a cosmic gift.Casts lower spell resistance,(magic resistance has now effect on this spell)
Uses contingency( meet opponent) combines (simulacrum and imprisonment) spell resistence is ignored, the host is placed is suspended animation within the earth, wont' expire until the earth ends, a horrible fate actally. The only means around this is a freedom spell, and i know K3vil isn't casting it for you.
Uses comet, which deals major damage and stuns victims who fail a save vs. death, the caster is immune to the spell.
"Cannot be target of spells or ABILITIES" if you played MTG you'd know that this means anything you activate.
I'll do it when you stop touching yourself at night thinking at your funny lines
Congrats, you ripped off a line from Family Guy. I can do that too, "Touche salesman."
Originally posted by LordFear
Yeah I know it's off topic but I wouldn't mind you sharing some of your views and opinions of various systems. You are totally correct about Krav Maga, it is CRT. I see what you are saying because what if the scenarios are not what you encounter in real life. Apparently the higher level (expert) teachs or speaks about it. Again I have yet to get over the intermediate part which is the automatic
Well, it was would dishonorable for me to dismiss martial arts simply because they are of questionable effectiveness - not everybody takes a fighting art to learn how to fight. Every martial art has some physical or mental benefit to it.
That said, if your primary goal is combat when choosing a martial art, the best systems are:
boxing/muay thai - they give you a very basic toolset and leave it entirely up to you to apply it however you will. In many ways, boxing is the best martial art because it most intuitively fits into how you actually fight. the training is effective too because it's basically comprised of full contact sparring and drills to improve your physical abilities - strength, speed, coordination, targeting, etc. Muay thai is boxing with kicks and elbows, so it adds a dimension. However, I find that most Muay thai schools put more emphasis on technique than combat, which is very un-boxing like, so I actually recommend both, instead of Thai over boxing.
Judo/Ju-jitsu - the training philosphy is similar to boxing in that a lot of training is done in improv situations, especially judo (at least in the good schools). ju-jitsu is more hit or miss, however, and you have to pay close attention to whether or not it's CRT style. If it is (and 80% of jujitsu is), then get out of it right away. Grappling is important, however, because as good as boxing/thai are, they're ultimately based on your ability to overpower your opponent. Well, some opponents won't go down just because you delivered a perfect right cross...they'll walk through it and take you down. You have to fight when down. I recommend judo, brazilian ju-jitsu, or sambo (if available in your area). Sambo is especially good. if you take jiu-jitsu, I recommend brazilian or aiki-jitsu (which is the predecessor to Aikido). These will teach you effective locking and breaking techniques in improvisational settings.
Wing Chun/Eagle Claw/Chi-Na/Llama - basically forms of Kung Fu that use something called trapping - a means of deflecting an opponents attack to improve your own position more favorably. it uses drills that really help get a feel for strategic fighting and using things like blind side strategies, footwork and body high ground positioning to gain advantage over stronger opponents. It's not a strength art, as Wing Chun was developed by two women - Ng Mui and Yip Wing Chun. Eagle Claw, Chi-Na and Llama use similar principles, though Chi-Na is actually the basis for all the Japanese grappling arts. The movie-sized version of Chi-Na is typically referred to as "Dim Mak" - the so-called Death Touch. If it exists, I'm not at liberty to discuss it, lol.
Kali - sometimes, you'll find yourself surrounded or overwhelmed and you just need to pull a weapon or some kind and use it. Kali is as good as it gets when it comes to using things you can carry in your pocket or find on the ground to turn the battle in your favor.
This is all my opinion, of course, and I'm sure people will weigh in and disagree, especially if they're practitioners of other styles that I didn't name.
I'll say one thing, though - you may take this list and see if someplace teaches all of it. this may lead you to Jeet Kune Do, which will likely claim to teach all of it. I'd avoid Jeet Kune Do at all costs - it's incomplete and non-standardized. You're as likely to be had as you are to find actual good training. Better off taking the styles separately and combining them yourself.
It is a gag. Well, not a gag, but a legend. But the style that it's based on is very real, and some of the theories are real as well. There are places on the human body that, when stimulated, will cause instant death. But it requires too much precision to be practical. x lbs of pressure, at x angle, at x time of day, adjusted for body types and gender is simply not something that can be done in real life in a fight.
Cant you kill someone with a lucky shot on the chest near the heart? Makes it skip a beat and fills with blood and explodes, or releases to much blood or something?
Originally posted by demigawd
It is a gag. Well, not a gag, but a legend. But the style that it's based on is very real, and some of the theories are real as well. There are places on the human body that, when stimulated, will cause instant death. But it requires too much precision to be practical. x lbs of pressure, at x angle, at x time of day, adjusted for body types and gender is simply not something that can be done in real life in a fight.
Why does time of day matter?
Originally posted by RayIsGay
Cant you kill someone with a lucky shot on the chest near the heart? Makes it skip a beat and fills with blood and explodes, or releases to much blood or something?Why does time of day matter?
My post right before yours answers the time of day question.
And yes, Dim Mak is based upon principles similar to the one you mentioned, where certain spots create destructive chain reactions. So in one sense, as I said, the principles are real, but in another, don't work very well in actual fights.
And who wants to kill somebody just for getting drunk and hitting on your girlfriend anyway?