Originally posted by demigawd
Magneto's is just as impressive, just differently applied. Doom built a time machine, great. Magneto built a space fortress and kept it shielded from detection while it was being built.
That's kinda setting up a little bit of prep for Magneto's side. I usually visualize these fights as a drop in fight where they are in a eye sight of each other, and ready to fight right there.
But, in a comic, I don't see why Mags couldn't ambush or suprise Superman. But in these fights, unless stated, he can't.
Originally posted by demigawd
Magneto's is just as impressive, just differently applied. Doom built a time machine, great. Magneto built a space fortress and kept it shielded from detection while it was being built. Magneto has far superior knowledge of molecular biology and genetics.
Doom built a device that spied on a GOD undetected, something even skyfathers couldn't get past. Akhenaten killed a slew of skyfathers few spying on him; Doom, however, got away with it. That surpasses building a space fortress and keeping it undetect by Earth governments. Doom was also undetected by the Magus until the very last moment during the Infinity Wars. He and Kang were undetected - something even Galactus' World ship couldn't do.
Magneto's feats are minor.
Doom's mystical knowledge is unimpressive. His magical feats are so few that they're basically meaningless. His whole reputation is basically in being considered "second in line" for sorcerer supreme, but that's a title he earned by cheating in that graphic novel, and has no feats to make that title mean anything.
His suit did most of the work. He recorded it in his armor. Cheated? Yeah, he cheated and gainned new knowledge.
Yes, because the most effective way to conquer earth is to leave your super-powered body for someone else...
A last effort if all fells. Take over your opponents body and gain new powers. It's alot better than dying.
Rivals Magneto, I doubt it surpasses it.
You mean Magnus wishes his will rivaled that of Doom. Doom was taken apart and disected by the Beyonder, he still manage to turn on his armor and absorb the Beyonder.
Doom trumped during SW I, leading the group of villains and taking control of the situation for a time. Magneto was following orders from Captain America.
Iron Man, Reed and Forge have done it as well...it's not actually that hard to do in the Marvel Universe. Hell, Forge built a multi-dimensional transporter in a few hours. Bah.
Magneto isn't Iron Man. Iron Man's built weapons for the Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D. Magneto ain't Forge either. And are you talking about the future Forge building a time machine, cause that's not proof of anything. When Magneto has built a time machine, then come back and talk. ...same goes for a multi-dimensional transporter.
And please, undetectable space fortresses are a dime a dozen in comics, not time machines.
So he's a leech. Magneto has BUILT gods.
Who again? Gods? Doom has become a cosmic god before. Magneto has what now? As for leech, Doom did under his own genius. He wasn't born mega powerful - he earned that. Call it what you like, but Magneto has never reached that level.
*cough* Asteroid M *cough*
Asteroid M left what now? And did Magneto not have to tow that pile of garbage into space?
Magneto can actually do both under his own power now.
Magneto was born with such powers. Doom earned everything he's had. And everything he has is more than Magneto can ever dream of accomplishing.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
When did this become Doom vs Magneto?
"demigawd
I'm not sure what Doom would add to the equation. Doom has taken the power of people more powerful than Magneto and still ultimately failed. Doom has no real fighting techniques to add to Magneto, who is as adept at his power as possible, so neither of them would get much out of the amalgam. Dr. Magneto would get as far in the DCU as regular Magneto would = a good fight against the JLA, winning some, losing some."