<<Superman blocked the omega effect with heat vision??? Wtf is that sh*t!?!!?!>>
yep. i feel your pain.
<<Could you try quantifying Superman's strength? As far as I know, his greatest feat was pushing War World into a Boom Tube. True, he was capable of containing a miniature black hole in his hands for a short time, but that's more of a feat of durability than physical strength.>>
i will try over the next little while. i'm gonna have to make a run to my brother's house to get the rest of my books and i'll see what i can find. for now, it's simply an opinion, backed up by disputable facts. i'll see if i can find something that might be more convincing. probably will be tough though to find INDISPUTABLE proof, though - for either one.
<<Gladiator was able to swim through a star without the luxury of a solar energy absorbing bio-matrix. I think he's well within Superman's class of durability,>>
i agree. their durability is likely very close. i said i don't think glads is BEYOND supes - or if it is, the difference is negligible (sp??) my point was anything capable of breaking supes arm so easily, could also break glads' arm.
<<Pre-crisis Superman was written well?>>
there were rare occasions . . . the end of crisis was a great one, where he went one on one with anti-monitor for a prolonged time! but there were many others.
and kg, black adam was also magical and equal to cm who has typically been shown to be near supe level. and magic bothered pre-c supes more than the current supes. NO ONE was equal to pre-c supes consistently though. he did ridiculously stupid things - was literally capable of nearly ANY feat. he was also capable of losing to a number of silly foes because to have him win all the time would be useless. you've got to know this is true. glads is about the level of current supes - pre-c supes was, at times, waaayyyyy beyond both.