Apocalypse vs. Count Nefaria

Celestail landed, Apocalypse crushed him and than took his ship.
Now, Richards is the most powerful mutant. About Apocalypse Vs. Hulk has been told already. Apocalypse has been figthing an opponents alone who are far above whole X-Men team combined. Now people, Apocalypse being trounced by X-Men, tell me (espeacilly you ZephroCarnelian) where has Apocalypse been beaten by them because of their powers, when they did trounce him, overpowered him, beat him. Yes I am right, no where, his plan is screwed or he is weak, and now to remember you, even in his weakest state, he took out X-Men under 1 minute.

Xplosive. Was there any real confrontation with the celestial at all? All i remember is that he stole a ship of theyrs. The celestia lwas there granted. Showed on panel. But he didnt tried anything at all. Its like he didnt cared.

Of course i might be forgetting some pages

Yes, he hurted Celestial badly.

No the 166 Avengers was much more powerful and not an ionic vampire 😄

Originally posted by yahman
I'm not too sure mate i didn't create the thread.
I kinda of see them as the same character although isn't the T-bolts version a resurrection of Nefaria?
Aren't Ionic people immortal in a sense?

Apart from the strength i think Nefaria show some pretty impressive displays of durability as well.

Wait a minute...NOW I know what you're talking about. That wasn't a Celestial, that was SAUL, who is an External. Saul revealed the location of the celestial ship to Apocalypse and said, "See, you think you're so bad, but there are things beyond even you. I dare not enter", at which point Apocalyse blasted Saul, saying something to the effect of, "that's why I'm me and you're you" and entered the Ship and took off with it.

Saul is NOT a Celestial.

Like I know, Celestial came down, took the human body, became asian conquer, Apocalypse beat him.

But then he wasent at celestial level. Its still a huge feat dont get me wrong. Apoc should get more respect but its not the same than beating a real celestial ya know 😉

Apocalypse says....http://www.geocities.com/x_villains/apocalypse/apoccy7.wav