Boba Fett & Durge vs. Jango Fett & Grievous

Started by General Zodiac5 pages

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
LordSorgo: Oh please, that's B.S. Fett can't fly forever and Grievous can jump very high, dodging Boba's little rockets. It doesn't take the Force to throw a lightsaber either and he has perfect sensors for it. G.G. wouldn't use his blaster unless need be and Boba's blasters wouldn't help much if the General is twirling four lightsabers so fast it makes a blur. And Greivous knows six of the seven forms, I'm not sure which one he doesn't know but I'm pretty sure he knows Soresu which is great for deflecting blaster bolts. Do you really think he's just gonna stand in one spot too? No. Even if the blaster bolts hit him, it's not gonna go through his armor or else Obi wouldn't have bothered aiming just for his heart.

Now Greivous was kinda stupid when Obi got the blaster but Obi has the Force and can aim perfectly with it. Boba's jet pack can't last for more than 15 seconds I'd say and even if Greivous didn't just jump up and slash him he would wait until Boba went down and he wouldn't be able to dodge coming down.

If Greivous can kill 5 Jedi at once then I think he can beat the guy who lost to Kyle Katarn and later Dash Rendar, both of which couldn't use the Force.

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Originally posted by Emperor Revan
LordSorgo: Oh please, that's B.S. Fett can't fly forever and Grievous can jump very high, dodging Boba's little rockets. It doesn't take the Force to throw a lightsaber either and he has perfect sensors for it. G.G. wouldn't use his blaster unless need be and Boba's blasters wouldn't help much if the General is twirling four lightsabers so fast it makes a blur. And Greivous knows six of the seven forms, I'm not sure which one he doesn't know but I'm pretty sure he knows Soresu which is great for deflecting blaster bolts. Do you really think he's just gonna stand in one spot too? No. Even if the blaster bolts hit him, it's not gonna go through his armor or else Obi wouldn't have bothered aiming just for his heart.

Now Greivous was kinda stupid when Obi got the blaster but Obi has the Force and can aim perfectly with it. Boba's jet pack can't last for more than 15 seconds I'd say and even if Greivous didn't just jump up and slash him he would wait until Boba went down and he wouldn't be able to dodge coming down.

If Greivous can kill 5 Jedi at once then I think he can beat the guy who lost to Kyle Katarn and later Dash Rendar, both of which couldn't use the Force.

1. Dash Rendar gets thrown off of a cliff by Boba. Read the comics.
2. 15 seconds? Wrong. His Jetpack can last plenty of time, as shown on Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy.
3. Who in the F*CK says that Boba is gonna come crashing down towards Grievous when he runs out of Jetpack fluid, which wont be anytime soon. Hell, for all we know, he would land on top of a pillar or something and shoot at Grievous all day.
4. Obi shot Grievous with ONE blaster. A high powered automatic gun and rockets coming towards you aren't the easiest things to dodge, Buddy.
5. Boba has experience killing Jedis, more than Grievous. He has killed more Jedi than Grievous. And he has killed Darth Vader. Read the comics.
6. Yeah sure, Grievous wouldn't be hard to take down, but Boba WOULD pull it off.
7. Um.... If he threw the Lightsaber, it would unignite. Even so, who says Boba wouldn't shoot the hilt or lauch a rocket at it?
8. Obi can aim perfectly with the force? I want significant proof of this. Even so, Grievous couldn't even dodge a single shot with two lightsabers.... That SUCKS!
9. Your PRETTY sure he knows Soresu? Okay... So what! That doesn't mean he is 100% gonna dodge a bullet. C'mon!

All depends. General Grievious and Boba Fett - armed - I still don't know. Grievous, in a melee combat, would EASILY EASILY EASILY demolish Boba. Now, I agree. Grievous got killed with a blaster. But he's also faster than Boba, and his reflexes are greater.

Grievious can also use a blaster - I'm sure - and like I said. In melee combat, Boba would get his ass handed to him by four different hands. 🙂

Grievous has this one.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
All depends. General Grievious and Boba Fett - armed - I still don't know. Grievous, in a melee combat, would EASILY EASILY EASILY demolish Boba. Now, I agree. Grievous got killed with a blaster. But he's also faster than Boba, and his reflexes are greater.

Grievious can also use a blaster - I'm sure - and like I said. In melee combat, Boba would get his ass handed to him by four different hands. 🙂

Grievous has this one.

Ok, um....

Can you explain to me why the hell Boba would go near Grievous? Oh, wait, maybe he wants to try to get some candy from him, so he decides he is gonna walk towards four lightsabers....

I DON'T THINK SO!

Grievous sucks at using a Blaster.

Originally posted by LordSorgo
Ok, um....

Can you explain to me why the hell Boba would go near Grievous? Oh, wait, maybe he wants to try to get some candy from him, so he decides he is gonna walk towards four lightsabers....

I DON'T THINK SO!

Grievous sucks at using a Blaster.

Since Boba wouldn't go near Grievous he wouldn't be able to open his chest plates to reveal his organs. So Grievous would start shooting 5 blasters at Boba Fett. Once Grievous shoots his jetpak and Boba comes crashing down, Grievous would take out his lightsabers and kill him. Grievous killed 5 Jedi at once. Let's see Boba Fett do that.

Originally posted by LordSorgo
1. Dash Rendar gets thrown off of a cliff by Boba. Read the comics.
2. 15 seconds? Wrong. His Jetpack can last plenty of time, as shown on Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy.
3. Who in the F*CK says that Boba is gonna come crashing down towards Grievous when he runs out of Jetpack fluid, which wont be anytime soon. Hell, for all we know, he would land on top of a pillar or something and shoot at Grievous all day.
4. Obi shot Grievous with ONE blaster. A high powered automatic gun and rockets coming towards you aren't the easiest things to dodge, Buddy.
5. Boba has experience killing Jedis, more than Grievous. He has killed more Jedi than Grievous. And he has killed Darth Vader. Read the comics.
6. Yeah sure, Grievous wouldn't be hard to take down, but Boba WOULD pull it off.
7. Um.... If he threw the Lightsaber, it would unignite. Even so, who says Boba wouldn't shoot the hilt or lauch a rocket at it?
8. Obi can aim perfectly with the force? I want significant proof of this. Even so, Grievous couldn't even dodge a single shot with two lightsabers.... That SUCKS!
9. Your PRETTY sure he knows Soresu? Okay... So what! That doesn't mean he is 100% gonna dodge a bullet. C'mon!

Well said General Zodiac. Now for me to respond.

1. Play the game, Rendar beats Boba then Boba goes into the Slave 1 and Dash (still on the ground) beats the Slave 1 still.

2. Boba would always come down and he wouldn't stay in the air for long at all. His blasters aren't gonna kill G.G.

3. When Boba starts going down because of his jetpack, Grievous (who's very fast) will go over to where Boba's coming down.

4. Who says Boba has a high powered automic gun? In all the games and movies he just has a single blaster pistol. As for the rockets, did you see how high Greivous jumped? And Boba doesn't have an endless supply.

5. What Jedi were left to kill? And if he killed Vader then why does Vader die later on the Death Star 2?

6. Boba would be hard to take down but Greivous WOULD pull it off.

7. Why would it unignite when he threw it? Did Yoda's or Vader's? No, G.G. just wouldn't be able to call it back witht the Force.

8. Notice how Obi shoots the same spot in his heart even through Grievous' flailing hands. And he didn't have two lightsabers, they were knocked away when the clones came. If he did have them why wouldn't he use them instead of fist fighting?

9. If his forms are good enough to beat more than one Jedi at once then deflecting blaster bolts wouldn't be hard, and even if he misses a few with FOUR lightsabers then it wouldn't matter because his armor's too strong.

^ Yeah seriously! LordSorgo, what are you thinking... How could Boba kill Darth Vader if we see him die in ROTJ!

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Well said General Zodiac. Now for me to respond.

1. Play the game, Rendar beats Boba then Boba goes into the Slave 1 and Dash (still on the ground) beats the Slave 1 still.

2. Boba would always come down and he wouldn't stay in the air for long at all. His blasters aren't gonna kill G.G.

3. When Boba starts going down because of his jetpack, Grievous (who's very fast) will go over to where Boba's coming down.

4. Who says Boba has a high powered automic gun? In all the games and movies he just has a single blaster pistol. As for the rockets, did you see how high Greivous jumped? And Boba doesn't have an endless supply.

5. What Jedi were left to kill? And if he killed Vader then why does Vader die later on the Death Star 2?

6. Boba would be hard to take down but Greivous WOULD pull it off.

7. Why would it unignite when he threw it? Did Yoda's or Vader's? No, G.G. just wouldn't be able to call it back witht the Force.

8. Notice how Obi shoots the same spot in his heart even through Grievous' flailing hands. And he didn't have two lightsabers, they were knocked away when the clones came. If he did have them why wouldn't he use them instead of fist fighting?

9. If his forms are good enough to beat more than one Jedi at once then deflecting blaster bolts wouldn't be hard, and even if he misses a few with FOUR lightsabers then it wouldn't matter because his armor's too strong.

1.Not talking about the game. Later on in a comic, Dash Rendar tries run Boba over with a Swoop bike, but Boba kicks him off and picks him up and throws him off of a cliff.

2. Maybe not his blaster, but a nice Rocket will. Grievous is NOT invincible. A rocket would penetrate him.

3. I will repeat myself again.... Who says Boba is gonna come to the ground? He could go anywhere.

4. No, he doesn't have a single blaster pistol. He usually has some sort of Automatic Rifle.

5. Boba Fett's EE-3 Blaster Rifle has disentegration capabilites and it has a scope so i am guessing Boba can pretty much aim at the cracks...

6. In order to keep a Lightsaber ignited, you have to be holding the button down. Why do you think when Jedi die, their lightsabers unignite when they let go? Force users, when they throw a lightsaber, hold the button down using the force.

7. Um... Grievous was shot in his lower lung. Oh, so he didn't have the lightsabers? Still, i question his agility for not dodging the laser.

8. Him slaughtering Jedi's has nothing to do with Blaster bolts.

9. Vader gets revived and there is a series of four comic books where Vader and Boba fight. Their first fight is with Lightsabers because Boba decides to keep a green saber off of one of the many Jedi he killed. He loses to Vader but comes back to find him on a Volcano planet (I don't know if it's mustafar for sure) and has a fist fight with him. Vader ignites his lightsaber and Boba jets into the air and shoots him dead.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
^ Yeah seriously! LordSorgo, what are you thinking... How could Boba kill Darth Vader if we see him die in ROTJ!

EU. Vader also fights Maul, and kills Maul by stabbing himself.

Ok, there's really nothing new except 6. which I will respond to. Maybe you're right, but it looks like they're not hitting the button always. And if you watch TPM, pause put it in slow motion when Obi gets Qui-Gon's lightsaber at the end you will see it turns on without him hitting the button and the button doesn't move. Now I'm sure it's probably just laziness on Lucas' part but you never know...

Now, how would Vader get revived if his body and suit is burnt? If it's a clone it would be whole and wouldn't need the suit. So I don't think it's canon. And as for Maul, that was a clone. A clone's not the real thing. Boba and Jango aren't exactly equal and they're better than the thousands of clone troopers as well. Even still, Maul's clone did very well, winning the fight and Vader had to wound himself to beat Maul's clone.

First, Grevious wouldn't be able to throw his lightsaber. It requires the force to throw very far. Second, Grevious doesn't know any normal lightsaber forms. He uses a unorthodox style. You need the force to do the normal lightsaber styles. Third, Boba Fett's main weapon was a flame thrower mounted on his wrist, a missle, and I think it's either one blaster or two. No high powered rifle. Fourth, Grevious can't block blaster fire since you need the force for that. (If you watch the last episode of the animated Clone Wars series, he doesn't block any fire coming at him, but walks along the wall avoiding it).

And not all lightsabers have a button. some have a switch, and they lock in place.

Originally posted by LordSorgo
EU. Vader also fights Maul, and kills Maul by stabbing himself.

Yes I know, I have that comic, which is Star Wars Tales. But, I doubt that Boba really killed Vader. I have a graphic novel where they fight, and Boba ends up running away after a tough battle. If the comic you are talking about does exist, I wouldn't take it seriously. Bad writers= poor stories = things that should never happen.

Alright. Grievous would defeat Durge...again. If Boba just wants to fly around Jango will kill him.

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Ok, there's really nothing new except 6. which I will respond to. Maybe you're right, but it looks like they're not hitting the button always. And if you watch TPM, pause put it in slow motion when Obi gets Qui-Gon's lightsaber at the end you will see it turns on without him hitting the button and the button doesn't move. Now I'm sure it's probably just laziness on Lucas' part but you never know...

Now, how would Vader get revived if his body and suit is burnt? If it's a clone it would be whole and wouldn't need the suit. So I don't think it's canon. And as for Maul, that was a clone. A clone's not the real thing. Boba and Jango aren't exactly equal and they're better than the thousands of clone troopers as well. Even still, Maul's clone did very well, winning the fight and Vader had to wound himself to beat Maul's clone.

It turns on without him hitting the button because he uses the force. Is that not painfully obvious?

Yet the button doesn't move, I thought that was painfully obvious.

Jango is far better then bobba jango killed many jedi was higher trained. Bobba has jango's hand me down crap armor while jango had shing new shit. the only thing bobba has going for him is he's smarter. and booba wouldn't win in a fist fight jango was physiclly stronger

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Yet the button doesn't move, I thought that was painfully obvious.

Um....

You know what? I wont even bother explaining it. I'm gonna leave you for a bit and see if you can figure it out by yourself.

Originally posted by Master Ferro
Jango is far better then bobba jango killed many jedi was higher trained. Bobba has jango's hand me down crap armor while jango had shing new shit. the only thing bobba has going for him is he's smarter. and booba wouldn't win in a fist fight jango was physiclly stronger

I could imagine you could gather proof stating that Jango is stronger than Boba?

Didn't think so.

Boba killed MORE Jedi than Jango, granting him experience.

Jango DIES! Boba does not! Boba lives on to gain respective experience and new skills, plus i'm sure time granted him with better technology, which equals better weaponry.

Jango is an orphan on the planet of Concord Dawn, home of the heavily-armored supersoldiers, the Mandalorians. Jango is a young boy when the war between the true Mandalorians and a traitorous scion of their ranks begins. Jango is taken in by the Mandalorian leader, Jaster Mereel. Jaster trains Jango to be a warrior, and when Jaster is later murdered by the leader of the mutinous Mandalorians, Jango avenges his death.

When the war is over, the Mandalorians are all but extinct, the remaining few fleeing to the far reaches of the galaxy. Jango, using his combat skills, weaponry, and mercenary mindset, became a bounty hunter, piloting his ship, the Slave I. Jango soon becomes famous for his accomplishments throughout the galaxy, not least of which are the Jedi he killed during the final Mandalorian wars. Despite this, he always considers himself a simple man trying to make his way.

Around the time of the Battle of Naboo, Jango is contacted by a man named Darth Tyranus, who offers him a bounty on his former padawan apprentice, Komari Vosa. Though Jango has to compete with Montross, a former Mandalorian traitor, he succeeds in defeating Vosa, partly with the help of a new ally, a novice bounty hunter named Zam Wesell. Tyranus is impressed; the bounty is a test to determine if the rumors of Jango's skills against a Jedi are true. In addition to the bounty on Vosa, Tyranus offers Jango a tempting sum of money for an unusual task: Jango is to be a template for an army of clones. Jango agrees, and soon millions of clones are created in his likeness at the cloning facility on Kamino. Jango, however, insists that one clone not be subjected to growth enhancement or personality alteration, so that Jango can raise him as a son. His wish was granted, and the clone is named Boba Fett. Contrary to his claims, Jango is aware that Tyranus is also former Jedi Master Count Dooku, the Separatist leader.

Originally posted by LordSorgo
I could imagine you could gather proof stating that Jango is stronger than Boba?

Didn't think so.

Boba killed MORE Jedi than Jango, granting him experience.

Jango DIES! Boba does not! Boba lives on to gain respective experience and new skills, plus i'm sure time granted him with better technology, which equals better weaponry.

Why don't you gather proof that Boba is stronger than Jango. What you can't? Didn't think so. You post proof of all the Jedi Boba has killed even though he also lost to Jaden Korr who had barely become a Jedi knight at the time.

As for better weapons and technology, I doubt it. From 4000 years ago in Lord Revan's time, barely anything is different then the 'present' time. 30 years or so probably won't do much.