Kreia vs. Mace

Mace

I also think Mace would win. He may not have control over the force like Kreia but he knows enough to make it a battle of lightsabers and when it comes to that Kriea's toast no matter how many lightsabers she tries to use.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
No problem,

Me saying the masters kreia killed are weak is an opinion but its backed up by the fact that the exile beat kreia while the 3 masters died instantly. That means 3 of the councils masters couldnt even measure up to the exile who while strong is not exceptional, I mean he was just a general in revans army-revan was the one that was crucial in the republics victorys, he was the one who was said to be the strongest not the exile.

Oh yes, Revan is definitely stronger than the Exile. But those 3 masters' combined Force power was enough to freeze the Exile. Then Kreia killed them. Now the Exile got stronger after that by the time he fought Kreia whom he defeated. I do think the Exile is exceptional since he kills 3 powerful Sith lords and possibly 3 powerful Jedi masters.

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Oh yes, Revan is definitely stronger than the Exile. But those 3 masters' combined Force power was enough to freeze the Exile. Then Kreia killed them. Now the Exile got stronger after that by the time he fought Kreia whom he defeated. I do think the Exile is exceptional since he kills 3 powerful Sith lords and possibly 3 powerful Jedi masters.

The 3 jedi were not powerful at all and the two other sith lords besides kreia were taken down not by the exiles skill but because of circumstances(nihilus not being able to suck the exiles power, sion giving up because hes a sissy)

Who's to say they were weak? They were on the council. I'd say they're stronger than the average council member during ROTS, look at how fast those 3 went down to Sidious and they had their lightsabers drawn waiting for him.

The Exile beat Sion about 5 times in a row, I'd say he beat him through skill.

I have to go for kreia even though I have never played KOTOR2 since my computer can't handle the requirments (which really sucks), however I know the storyline quite well.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
...Ive played kotor 1 like 5 times and kotor 2 like 3 times...

I just want you to know that playing it 5 times doesnt mean a whole lot. There are people who play it twice et finds things that you may have missed. Believe me, I've played KOTOR 1 fourteen times(mainly because it only takes me about 10 hours each time now) and KOTOR 2 six times(takes about eleven hours to all I want to. No offense by the way.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I just want you to know that playing it 5 times doesnt mean a whole lot. There are people who play it twice et finds things that you may have missed. Believe me, I've played KOTOR 1 fourteen times(mainly because it only takes me about 10 hours each time now) and KOTOR 2 six times(takes about eleven hours to all I want to. No offense by the way.

After 5 times through Ive pretty much seen it all. And when I play I dont rush, I savor everything 🙂 so I make a point to see all that I can with each playthrough.

I think the worst part of this forum is getting to be scrolling through the BS to make my reply.

First off, the novelisation of Episode III does not say specifically that Sidious pwns all and is better than Kreia or the ancient Sith before him. Lucas does not say so. Therefore, it is not so. So shuddap with that already. Tired of hearing that from Sidious fanboys.

Second, Kreia's command of the Force is more extensive than Sidious', comes from a larger variety of different, more ancient sources. She is more tried in battle. She has a better kill ratio (Much like Bob in the Last Samurai) and she has dabbled in many arts Sidious has not, including Jedi training and the Force manipulation of Revan's assassins.

Third, if Sidious is the best the dark side has to offer, Exar Kun and Marka Ragnos must have been as all-powerful as ANH Luke.

And fourth, I've read Shatterpoint. I know how Mace works. And Mace has more than the usual bit of trouble with non-Force sensitives, let alone a Force witch on par with Kreia. In the novel, he has a rough time defeating his own padawan and also a Force sensitive but untrained warrior.

So yeah. STFU IMO PBS NBC BYOB.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
I think the worst part of this forum is getting to be scrolling through the BS to make my reply.

First off, the novelisation of Episode III does not say specifically that Sidious pwns all and is better than Kreia or the ancient Sith before him. Lucas does not say so. Therefore, it is not so. So shuddap with that already. Tired of hearing that from Sidious fanboys.

Second, Kreia's command of the Force is more extensive than Sidious', comes from a larger variety of different, more ancient sources. She is more tried in battle. She has a better kill ratio (Much like Bob in the Last Samurai) and she has dabbled in many arts Sidious has not, including Jedi training and the Force manipulation of Revan's assassins.

Third, if Sidious is the best the dark side has to offer, Exar Kun and Marka Ragnos must have been as all-powerful as ANH Luke.

And fourth, I've read Shatterpoint. I know how Mace works. And Mace has more than the usual bit of trouble with non-Force sensitives, let alone a Force witch on par with Kreia. In the novel, he has a rough time defeating his own padawan and also a Force sensitive but untrained warrior.

So yeah. STFU IMO PBS NBC BYOB.

I missed you

If only I could compliment that with a picture of Darth Logicus crushing the Sith trooper of stupidity.

You can't have it all.

Yeah it's great to have you back Janus.

*Sniff* Stop it, I'm gettin' misty eyed.

hey Janus you're back!!! 😄

but wow, I remember the meha-tourny, wow that was a long time ago.

anyway, about the question, I think that you guys underestimate Mace's force resistance, if he was ready for battle (which he would be against Kreia), he could probably deflect her force powers, I just watched the RotS movie yesterday, and I noticed something, Mace was surprised by Paply's force lightning, yet he could still deflect it, so I think that if he were prepared, he could deflect Kreia's force powers long enough to engage her in lightsaber combat. Once in lightsaber combat, Mace takes this.

Yes but Kreia her force attack is going to be more powerful and Mace could be surprised by Kreia as well. Besides Kreia could launch a lot of different attacks at Mace, not to mention that once she sends a few lightsabers flying he is going to have a hard time. Kreia would probably manage to keep him away from her.

Mace is no pushover in terms of Force power. He was second in power only to Yoda and Darth Sidious in his time. Of course, I think Kreia has the edge in power here, and if she can kill him in a battle of the Force, she can save herself. But Mace has proven that he can use his lightsaber in Force battles. If he can use his Shatterpoint ability (which I find to be cool, but controversial) to find a weakness and close the distance, I think he can take this. And the Council members killed by Kreia probably weren't as powerful as Mace.

Good thread by the way. 🙂

Maybe not, doesn't matter they weren't really prepared. Still it shows some of Kreia's power, she would have to keep a distance, the real question is can she. I believe she is powerful enough to do it. If she can't she is dead.

My point exactly. If Kreia can kill Mace with her superior Force power before he reaches her, she can win. But once Mace gets to his range, Kreia's toast.

Nice sig by the way Fishy.

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