Originally posted by paeng
Thanks man,Spidey and Deathstroke has the most chances in winning but Wolverine will be the only one who will have a hard time against Ryu I admit that but he has a chance also but I am not saying that Ryu does not have a chance as well.
Ladies and Gentlemen paeng's best argument, which explains absolutley nothing on how they'd win.
Originally posted by paeng
Why do you always change topic and you resort into flaming when you could not show some evidence.A nice SF comic scan would be great. 🙂
Since is the ONLY thread you post in, you must have a lot of free time.
If you can explain to me in the NEXT post, (thats one, just incase you can't count) on how your characters would win, I'll listen to you. If not I'll ignore you.
The scans mean absolutely nothing.
1) They have nothing to do with the opponent in this match.
2) You cant explain anything, so you're putting up scans of nonrelated characters and asking for proof as a ruse.
I post, prove why, or you're ignored.
Originally posted by paeng
About Spidey and Deahtstroke,I don't need to tell anything from this guys because you know what they can do. Spiderman can lift tons because he is in a 10 ton level range. And Deathstroke is immortal.
And Iron Carnage where is the proof that you will show me.
This is my point, how do you know we know how they'll win? You can't explain because you don't know.
You are pulling straws at this point,if you know so much about sf (which you don'😉, then you wouldn't be asking for proof on something, everyone else knows.
Originally posted by newjak86
I hate to tell you this my friend but I generally find that when someone asks for proof one of two things is happening:
a) They really don't think that particular character is capable of it and they want to proof or
b) They understand that if this feat happened then they can't argue how the person they are debating for would overcome it so they ask for proof.
I believe you fall under b my friend. For the last couple of pafes all you've been doing is asking for proof. I think you don't have a way to counter it so your trying every last chance to change this battle.
This sums it up just fine.
Seriously speaking.
Actually Comic Scans are good proof because you can show the characters real ability.
For example, "What if" you are the one telling me to show a proof on what could Deathstroke, Wolverine and Spidey could do. And I can't show anything to you then it would make me a liar if I can't prove it.
And since we are using Internet you can't prove anything unless you have a picture or a referrence to show.
And I've already said to you that Spiderman is a Class 10 Ton level.
And Wolverine is not in the league of Spiderman and most probably will have a hard time on Ryu.
And from the scans that I've shown you about Deathstroke going toe to toe with Wonder Woman is really a big feat.
And yes I have lots of free time. 🙂
Originally posted by paeng
For example, "What if" you are the one telling me to show a proof on what could Deathstroke, Wolverine and Spidey could do. And I can't show anything to you then it would make me a liar if I can't prove it.
Good proof, flash has never run over the speed of sound, well he did HERE.
If you can't explain anything, you can post pics all day, but you can't counter the argument if you don't know the characters well, so you are wasting your time.
Originally posted by paeng
And since we are using Internet you can't prove anything unless you have a picture or a referrence to show.
I'm in a hypothetical debate. Use logic and objective thinking. I don't want scans if a person can't explain for themselves, scans are the part you use to clear confusion, explanation makes you win.
Ex: Magneto beats wolverine because wolverine has a lot of metal, Magneto controls that, SEE logic. The comics aren't always perfect because they show things inaccurately too. How many times has wolverine given magneto problems? Just to please the fans, YOU, have to discern what makes sense and what doesn't, I'm not taking your scans and arguing for you anymore.
Originally posted by paeng
And I've already said to you that Spiderman is a Class 10 Ton level.
So what? I know that, that isn't debating.
Spiderman vs. Venom:
Me: venom has beaten spiderman head up before, and dampens his spidersense.
You: Spiderman lifts ten tons.
That shows little on how he would win, you've explained nothing, but clear up a mistake if someone didn't know better.
By the way, spiderman lifts 15 tons, now do you see why I cannot take what you say seriously? You don't know your characters, you got that from I don't know where.
Originally posted by paeng
And Wolverine is not in the league of Spiderman and most probably will have a hard time on Ryu.
So, explain why.
Originally posted by paeng
And from the scans that I've shown you about Deathstroke going toe to toe with Wonder Woman is really a big feat.
That is from a different universe, how would deathstroke exploit ryu?
Originally posted by paeng
And yes I have lots of free time. 🙂
Not a big deal, we all do, few admit it.
I know Ryu very well and you're saying that he achieved Full Power but in some SF comics I have read he isn't very powerful and very different on what you're talking about
And again you know that we are "using internet" most of the people I've ever encountered on a debate talk trash and nonesense. Some even say he can beat up the Hulk. Even if you try talking some sense into them they ignore it.
And about Venom he is nearly indestructable because he can form himself into a liquid. And he even survived the beating of Juggernaut. And he is nearly as tough as Spiderman is.
And Wolverine will really have a hard time because he does'nt have superspeed.
Deathstroke's punch can really hurt Ryu because I've seen Ryu being beat up by normal humans who doesn't have power's at all.
I never said full potential, I said BEST SHOWINGS IN A COMIC!!
As for that I'm way ahead of you, I've finished my explaining long ago.
You've still haven't said how DS will get more hits in on an opponent who hits him, and Spiderman,Ds, and Wolverine have been hurt by humans, NORMAL PEOPLE. Destroying mountains and islands don't count as normal.
Do you still believe these three have a chance against ryu in his best showing, thats all I want to know before I go on.
Like I said before the only person who has a chance at beating Ryu at full potential is DS. Everyone else lacks the total package to beat Ryu. DS can react faster, can see everything Ryu plans on doing, can attack from a far, has a sword that's just a strong as adamantium, and has the pyhsical abiliteies to not be left in the dusk.
Plus he can outthink Ryu and can instantly find his weakness and exploit it but this by no means would be a cake walk for him.
I have read many SF comics before but Ryu never achieved full potential in the SF Comics. Please show me some proof first.
Do you know that Deathstroke has superspeed(That's how he's gonna hit Ryu). His entire body is enhanced. Do you know that Deathstroke fought Wonder Woman and still lives. Do you know that Wonder Woman is nearly as strong as Superman.
Now how will I know if you really know Spiderman, Deathstroke and Wolverine. Please show me some info if you really know who these three are and what they can do.
Akuma blowing up a mountain and Ryu in his full potential are just endings of a "Game".
How will I believe you if you have no proof. How would I know if you're just making that up. I just need some scan please I really need proof.
Most battles are nothing but luck.
Anyway it has never been confirmed or uncomfirmed whether or not it is true pre cog. Also what has been confirmed is that he can see the possible outcome of a battle in a thousand different ways before the fight even begins. He has long distance weapons and although they are only normal it only takes a well plced shot and ryu is pushing up daisies. Remember he taged the flash before the FLASH.
Slade has super strength and speed has a healing factor and is immortal. He has fought people who can arguably take out Ryu by themselves and he took on more than one of the people at once.
The only big problem here is that Slade wasn't given a chance to plan this fight so he has to come up with everything on the fly which he is more than capable of.
With prep time I give this to slade about 7/10 times at least and without it I give it to Ryu 8/10. DS is just so dangerous a killer.
Originally posted by paeng
I have read many SF comics before but Ryu never achieved full potential in the SF Comics. Please show me some proof first.Do you know that Deathstroke has superspeed(That's how he's gonna hit Ryu). His entire body is enhanced. Do you know that Deathstroke fought Wonder Woman and still lives. Do you know that Wonder Woman is nearly as strong as Superman.
Now how will I know if you really know Spiderman, Deathstroke and Wolverine. Please show me some info if you really know who these three are and what they can do.
Akuma blowing up a mountain and Ryu in his full potential are just endings of a "Game".
How will I believe you if you have no proof. How would I know if you're just making that up. I just need some scan please I really need proof.
Have you ever read SVC: SNK vs. Capcom chaos comic before? It's the sig cordera have, I think it's overkill if any one of them fight that Ryu.
Originally posted by paeng
I have read many SF comics before but Ryu never achieved full potential in the SF Comics. Please show me some proof first.Do you know that Deathstroke has superspeed(That's how he's gonna hit Ryu). His entire body is enhanced. Do you know that Deathstroke fought Wonder Woman and still lives. Do you know that Wonder Woman is nearly as strong as Superman.
Now how will I know if you really know Spiderman, Deathstroke and Wolverine. Please show me some info if you really know who these three are and what they can do.
Akuma blowing up a mountain and Ryu in his full potential are just endings of a "Game".
How will I believe you if you have no proof. How would I know if you're just making that up. I just need some scan please I really need proof.
Your not doing an arugument, all that you are doing is telling me stuff I already know.
They are not game endings they are comic endings, we can't argue with you because you don't know the characters or the point you are trying to argure, you are saying the same thing over and over.
Originally posted by paeng
I know Ryu very well and you're saying that he achieved Full Power but in some SF comics I have read he isn't very powerful and very different on what you're talking aboutAnd again you know that we are "using internet" most of the people I've ever encountered on a debate talk trash and nonesense. Some even say he can beat up the Hulk. Even if you try talking some sense into them they ignore it.
And about Venom he is nearly indestructable because he can form himself into a liquid. And he even survived the beating of Juggernaut. And he is nearly as tough as Spiderman is.
And Wolverine will really have a hard time because he does'nt have superspeed.
Deathstroke's punch can really hurt Ryu because I've seen Ryu being beat up by normal humans who doesn't have power's at all.
Venom is tougher than spiderman, MUCH TOUGHER. This shows I can't take your opinion into too much account.