Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
YOu are bitter because you are stupid and wrong, you haven't half a brain.Maybe you got these guys to argue against you becuase you'd have a chance.
People don't want to argue with me because they lose,badly. They know their posts are coming apart.
Oh, and just so you know, HP is getting this, he doens't like when people talk bad about him, or me.
YOUR ASS IS FRIED!
Good I hope you call a lot of them not just HP. Go and cry to your Papa Hulk Power. The more the merrier. 😎
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yea I usually end up arguing the losing side, to hope people will see the underrated char. shine, and I usually don't lose, or at least come to an agreement.
Yeah you always thought you don't lose because you don't listen,
All your evidence is PIS and CIS and from a "Game Crossover" turn into comics it's SVC.
It's not a valid evidence because the SVC "storyline" never happened to the "real" Street Fighter comics. And as I said earlier Ryu doesn't even know Kyo Kusanagi in the "current" Street Fighter comics.
You haven't even posted a big feat of Ryu using the current Street Fighter comics.
Balrog smashes car with little effort, Ryu went toe to toe with him, Plus he took a direct blow from Balrogs special called the Gigaton Blow which is way powerful than his normal punches. 😐 And Ryu can just keep firing Hadokens from a distance. If Logon wants to fight in close combat Ryu whould just use his Shoryuken and Tornado kick.
Thanks dvampire and M Hoshi 89, Finally I have an opponent that do not talk trash in this forum just to win.
Did the two of you know that Spidey is a 10 Ton level character which means he can lift 10 tons in weight. And Spidey can destroy brick walls with his bare hands.
And the current comics Wolverine, His attitude will be the problem against Ryu because he charged right ahead into a fight first before thinking. But he has the healing factor to help him witch will be a great factor in this fight.
About Deathstroke, Deathstroke has healing factor just like Wolverine and also DS is immortal and has superspeed and superstrength. Well if you will look in these pictures of DS going toe to toe with Wonder Woman. This will explain on how strong DS means.
okay now I've been thinking about this one for a while and I've got to say this:
While my first intinctive thought was that ryu would plow through this competition and while my actual bias my possibly reside in ryu and his capabilities, after further consideration I just don't see how this is possible for him to do on a consistant basis.
lets take a look at a few things here.... we know that ryu is an absurdly fast fighter...BUT...what is one of his best feats of speed?
he easily dodges bullets, as they look like they're moving in slow motion compared to him...but if bullet dodging is the best feat of speed he's been able to showcase, that's not a good thing... I mean spiderman has his precognative spider sense that allows him to dance around bullets with ease, deathstroke took down flash before green arrow could finish the word "don't", and hell, even wolverine was capible of dodging his fair share of bullets, not to mention the fact that he's been able to bring down quicksilver and speed demon with a combination of his skill and hightened senses.
In battle, ryu's been matched by the speed of fei long....fei long is a high level martial artist with a low end power level in terms of ki, yet he was able to give ryu a decent run for his money. now I really doubt that ryu would be able to keep up with these guys for that long. His expert skill will allow him to hold his own sure, but the question is...for how long?
In terms of strength, as I said before, his punches are able to go right through steel doors, but I highly doubt he is going to win this fight with kicks and punches...why? cause spiderman and wolverine both have taken hits from calss 100 characters and got up from it, wolverine does it on a semi regular basis. deathstroke was able to go toe to toe with wonder woman and hold his own...I doubt ryu can do anything in terms of hand to hand that will sufficiently do anything to these guys...and I'd venture to say the only one here who ryu could do significant damage to is spiderman the guy that will be hardest to hit.Given spiderman's spidersense...it's going to be difficult. For ryu however, it won't be impossible. (i'm basing that assumption on the fact that spiderman regularly has difficulties with good h2h fighters...ryu's more than exceptional in this area. I believe the right word is "legendary".) But the sad fact is that ryu's been overpowered by zangeif for a short period of time and while he did beat zangeif, zangeif is a character with no superpowers whatsoever, ryu's also stated balrog as hitting him with the most raw power he'd ever been hit with...if that's the case, things don't bode well for ryu...balrog's an ex heavyweight champ in boxing but his h2h skills don't really compare with deathstroke or wolverines, that said, what happens when ryu gets pummeled by an expert h2h fighter with low end super strength, or by a guy with an adamantium laced fist, with claws at the end of em?
I really don't think ryu can sustain the damage taken from superhuman's like spiderman or deathstroke for long, he can help his durability in various areas by projecting ki but this will soak up his energy and his offensive attacks will begin to weaken. I know he definitely won't be able to evade wolverine's claws for long, cause I mean lets face face it, vega with ONE set of claws and NO superpowers was able to incapacitate ken on two seperate occasions. Im fairly confident that wolverine, who's faster and stronger with more stamina and durability can take it to ryu based on that alone.
as for ryu's best offensive weapon....the hadoken...can it take down a mountain? well personally I've never seen this happen, but yes, I'm willing to say that ryu's high level, powered up hadoken can indeed take down a mountain....HOWEVER lets look at more of his actual feats with the hadoken to make a decent assessment of the weapon itself.
the most impressive feats of the hadoken is that it ripped through a tital wave, a clash between ryu's hadoken and kens hadoshoryu ended in destroying and leveling a giant gym sized building, however on both occasions ryu had to sufficiently take time and power up to attain the power to be able to cause that kind of damage, and right after it was over ryu passed out on both occasions.... the best feat of a non powered up hadoken is when ryu and ken used a combined hadoken to take down bison and blow up an enormous ship...but the feat is a bit less impressive considering bison was using NO psyhco power at the time....🙁
Now another aspect of the hadoken is the speed of said attack, it's slow, not extremely slow, but slow nonetheless...a beaten and battered ryu literally rolled out of the way of it with no problem whatsoever, this leads me to beilieve that spiderman with a spidersense and deathstroke with near precog woun't even be touched by it, if they are well.....balrog again, as stood up to the hadoken at point blank on two seperate occasion he brushed it off once and knocked him out in another, but the point remains, if a human can deal with that attack why can't spidey or deathstroke with higher durability, and wolverine.
Ryu's attack is concussive yes, but it won't overload wolverine's healing factor, wolverine takes beatings from the hulk and just keeps on comin, ryu's most powerful hadokens aren't garanteed to put logan down if hulk punches can't do it 75% of the time, and that's only if logan let him have the time to power up to do so, that said, none of these characters will give ryu the sufficient time he needs in order to be able to make an extremely powerful blast, so he'll be limited to using his nonpowered up ones which are not even all that impressive. If he stops to power up he gets shot by ds, webbed by spidey, or cut to ribbons by logan.
ryu has a couple things he's got to his advantage, if spiderman webbs him he can power up and literally blast the stuff off him with energy, aside from that ryu can use the hado force to feel out where an oponent is coming from, he did this to bison who was moving so fast he produced the aftershadow effect of a DBZ fighter. Ryu could feel where he was moving to and pinpoint where he was going to be before he even got there...but that won't be useful against ds and his ranged attacks or wolvie and his barrage as he'll just steamroll his way forward, ryu's best chance at a victory here is against spidey and even then it's slim.
like I said, i'd love to say that ryu would own these fights....i simply don't see how....
Originally posted by jinzin
okay now I've been thinking about this one for a while and I've got to say this:While my first intinctive thought was that ryu would plow through this competition and while my actual bias my possibly reside in ryu and his capabilities, after further consideration I just don't see how this is possible for him to do on a consistant basis.
lets take a look at a few things here.... we know that ryu is an absurdly fast fighter...BUT...what is one of his best feats of speed?
he easily dodges bullets, as they look like they're moving in slow motion compared to him...but if bullet dodging is the best feat of speed he's been able to showcase, that's not a good thing... I mean spiderman has his precognative spider sense that allows him to dance around bullets with ease, deathstroke took down flash before green arrow could finish the word "don't", and hell, even wolverine was capible of dodging his fair share of bullets, not to mention the fact that he's been able to bring down quicksilver and speed demon with a combination of his skill and hightened senses.
In battle, ryu's been matched by the speed of fei long....fei long is a high level martial artist with a low end power level in terms of ki, yet he was able to give ryu a decent run for his money. now I really doubt that ryu would be able to keep up with these guys for that long. His expert skill will allow him to hold his own sure, but the question is...for how long?
In terms of strength, as I said before, his punches are able to go right through steel doors, but I highly doubt he is going to win this fight with kicks and punches...why? cause spiderman and wolverine both have taken hits from calss 100 characters and got up from it, wolverine does it on a semi regular basis. deathstroke was able to go toe to toe with wonder woman and hold his own...I doubt ryu can do anything in terms of hand to hand that will sufficiently do anything to these guys...and I'd venture to say the only one here who ryu could do significant damage to is spiderman the guy that will be hardest to hit.Given spiderman's spidersense...it's going to be difficult. For ryu however, it won't be impossible. (i'm basing that assumption on the fact that spiderman regularly has difficulties with good h2h fighters...ryu's more than exceptional in this area. I believe the right word is "legendary".) But the sad fact is that ryu's been overpowered by zangeif for a short period of time and while he did beat zangeif, zangeif is a character with no superpowers whatsoever, ryu's also stated balrog as hitting him with the most raw power he'd ever been hit with...if that's the case, things don't bode well for ryu...balrog's an ex heavyweight champ in boxing but his h2h skills don't really compare with deathstroke or wolverines, that said, what happens when ryu gets pummeled by an expert h2h fighter with low end super strength, or by a guy with an adamantium laced fist, with claws at the end of em?
I really don't think ryu can sustain the damage taken from superhuman's like spiderman or deathstroke for long, he can help his durability in various areas by projecting ki but this will soak up his energy and his offensive attacks will begin to weaken. I know he definitely won't be able to evade wolverine's claws for long, cause I mean lets face face it, vega with ONE set of claws and NO superpowers was able to incapacitate ken on two seperate occasions. Im fairly confident that wolverine, who's faster and stronger with more stamina and durability can take it to ryu based on that alone.
as for ryu's best offensive weapon....the hadoken...can it take down a mountain? well personally I've never seen this happen, but yes, I'm willing to say that ryu's high level, powered up hadoken can indeed take down a mountain....HOWEVER lets look at more of his actual feats with the hadoken to make a decent assessment of the weapon itself.
the most impressive feats of the hadoken is that it ripped through a tital wave, a clash between ryu's hadoken and kens hadoshoryu ended in destroying and leveling a giant gym sized building, however on both occasions ryu had to sufficiently take time and power up to attain the power to be able to cause that kind of damage, and right after it was over ryu passed out on both occasions.... the best feat of a non powered up hadoken is when ryu and ken used a combined hadoken to take down bison and blow up an enormous ship...but the feat is a bit less impressive considering bison was using NO psyhco power at the time....🙁
Now another aspect of the hadoken is the speed of said attack, it's slow, not extremely slow, but slow nonetheless...a beaten and battered ryu literally rolled out of the way of it with no problem whatsoever, this leads me to beilieve that spiderman with a spidersense and deathstroke with near precog woun't even be touched by it, if they are well.....balrog again, as stood up to the hadoken at point blank on two seperate occasion he brushed it off once and knocked him out in another, but the point remains, if a human can deal with that attack why can't spidey or deathstroke with higher durability, and wolverine.
Ryu's attack is concussive yes, but it won't overload wolverine's healing factor, wolverine takes beatings from the hulk and just keeps on comin, ryu's most powerful hadokens aren't garanteed to put logan down if hulk punches can't do it 75% of the time, and that's only if logan let him have the time to power up to do so, that said, none of these characters will give ryu the sufficient time he needs in order to be able to make an extremely powerful blast, so he'll be limited to using his nonpowered up ones which are not even all that impressive. If he stops to power up he gets shot by ds, webbed by spidey, or cut to ribbons by logan.
ryu has a couple things he's got to his advantage, if spiderman webbs him he can power up and literally blast the stuff off him with energy, aside from that ryu can use the hado force to feel out where an oponent is coming from, he did this to bison who was moving so fast he produced the aftershadow effect of a DBZ fighter. Ryu could feel where he was moving to and pinpoint where he was going to be before he even got there...but that won't be useful against ds and his ranged attacks or wolvie and his barrage as he'll just steamroll his way forward, ryu's best chance at a victory here is against spidey and even then it's slim.
like I said, i'd love to say that ryu would own these fights....i simply don't see how....
Ryu Hadoken destroyed a cyborg, it's very powerful. 😕 And I think he stands a better chance at beating Wolvie and Deathstroke than Spidey. 😐
he destroyed a cyborg who made his first appearance and last appearance in a single movie.... he was powerful, but his durability was never truley measured.
going by that logic, wolverine defeated horde a character who was a thanos like threat on the cosmic level....guess that's why we like to use the more established feats eh? 😉