Cyborg II vs Thanos

Originally posted by K3VIL
Thanos body is his second body.
The first was the one enhanced with bionics and so, this body was enhanced from Death itself, making Thanos stronger and hella durable than his previous incarnation.
Thanos has beat plenty of enemies which are more dangerous than Cyborg and resisted to attacks that will annihilate him instantly.
He'll punch him few times then blast him until he melt his body and block him in a block of pure force and proceed into taking him to the nearest supernova the eliminate his body.

Punching and kicking is not going to work isn't going to work anymore against Cyborg than it is against Thanos. Melt cyborgs body? Doubtful. This is a guy who has survived being thrown in a black hole. Supernova will probably hurt Thanos more than Cyborg. This is a guy that has stood in the middle of an explosion that ATOMIZED everything else around him and didn't have a hair out of place. He also doesnt even have to be in a single body, he can occupy or command multiple bodies, depending on where he is, he can be the enviroment. If Thanos has bionics or uses any tech, it will be used against himself. Durability, If thanos were thrown into the source wall, he wouldnt fare any better than the promethian giants that are stuck there... what did cyborg do? He took over a section of the wall for himself...and yes, the wall self repairs, so it does have some sentience to it. If something hurts thanos, cyborg can create it and use it. Its what he does.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Punching and kicking is not going to work isn't going to work anymore against Cyborg than it is against Thanos. Melt cyborgs body? Doubtful. This is a guy who has survived being thrown in a black hole. Supernova will probably hurt Thanos more than Cyborg. This is a guy that has stood in the middle of an explosion that ATOMIZED everything else around him and didn't have a hair out of place. He also doesnt even have to be in a single body, he can occupy or command multiple bodies, depending on where he is, he can be the enviroment. If Thanos has bionics or uses any tech, it will be used against himself. Durability, If thanos were thrown into the source wall, he wouldnt fare any better than the promethian giants that are stuck there... what did cyborg do? He took over a section of the wall for himself...and yes, the wall self repairs, so it does have some sentience to it. If something hurts thanos, cyborg can create it and use it. Its what he does.

So is that why Parallax punched a hole in him? And this was a weaker Parallax.

Supernova hurt Thanos? You based this on what? He's taken shots from Odin w/ Gungnir, Tyrant, Galactus, Omega, and Beyonder.

Surfer can survive a Supernova. Thanos wouldn't even care.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
[B]So you are comparing cyborg against Ultron? Wow. Then there isn't much point trying to convince you then, is there?

Only since you said beyond death. Which is relative...and thus I brought Ultron as an example. But again, not even angels of Lucifer and Michael's calibuer are beyond death. Cyborg ain't either.

It's doesnt matter how advanced the tech is, Cyborg can take it over. Feel free to show me an example of cyborg not being able to do so. Any tech thanos tries to use will be instantly turned against him. Is this difficult to get?
Thanos own body uses bionics and tech. Not a hard thing to control to incapitate your enemy. Thanos is tough, not invincible.

That's funny, now show me where someone has taken over Thanos through any means?

Not better than Doom or Richards? Using a crossover for example. Cyborg thought Reeds tech was fairly primitive, and reeds = doom. WOW, spied on a god like being. Great for him.

Yeah, using a crossover...🙄

Fine I'll play your game. Using a crossover, Thanos stalemate Darkseid. Neither got the better. Thor, however, was stopped by Darkseid in one blast, than proceeded to take the attack of both Surfer and Storm. On the other hand, Thanos fought off the collective of Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel,

Well, didn't Darkseid beat Cyborg? Yet Thanos stalemated Darkseid. Whose more durabable now? And please, Thanos laughed at Surfer's attacks all the time.

Punked or not, have you ever seen Thor scared of thanos...those were ur words, not mine.

Pride anyone? Before Thanos' death, Thor needed Thing to help fight Thanos. Nowadays, Thanos wrecks and humilates him time and time again. Thor's prideful and all...doesn't mean ain't an scared of his foes.

As for death, if death wants them. They can die. Thanos included. Cyborgs never died. He just goes into new bodies that he can create on the fly if he wishes.

Riiiight. Lucifer Morningstar and Michael have both died. You do know these beings don't you? Creating bodies? Try universes. Michael completely stomped Spectre in a fight. If death wanted, Cyborg would death as well.

Yep, If Death wants someone dead, its dead !!

Originally posted by ImmortalOne
Yep, If Death wants someone dead, its dead !!

Originally posted by Beyonder
Only since you said beyond death. Which is relative...and thus I brought Ultron as an example. But again, not even angels of Lucifer and Michael's calibuer are beyond death. Cyborg ain't either.

That's funny, now show me where someone has taken over Thanos through any means?

Yeah, using a crossover...🙄

Fine I'll play your game. Using a crossover, Thanos stalemate Darkseid. Neither got the better. Thor, however, was stopped by Darkseid in one blast, than proceeded to take the attack of both Surfer and Storm. On the other hand, Thanos fought off the collective of Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel,

Well, didn't Darkseid beat Cyborg? Yet Thanos stalemated Darkseid. Whose more durabable now? And please, Thanos laughed at Surfer's attacks all the time.

Pride anyone? Before Thanos' death, Thor needed Thing to help fight Thanos. Nowadays, Thanos wrecks and humilates him time and time again. Thor's prideful and all...doesn't mean ain't an scared of his foes.

Riiiight. Lucifer Morningstar and Michael have both died. You do know these beings don't you? Creating bodies? Try universes. Michael completely stomped Spectre in a fight. If death wanted, Cyborg would death as well.

I think you need to relax, this is a simple debate. Seems like its personal to you, try to relax a bit there buddy. Now..

For someone taking over Thanos, has anyone tried? How are you so sure it can't be done. The guy is powerful, not invincible. Big difference.

Thanos was handling Captain Marvel, and Wonder woman... great. Cyborg Handled Eradicator, Supergirl, Steel, and Superboy with no sweat.

Using a crossover, Cyborg mocked surfers power as well and was completely unaffected by it.

If you call a motherbox enhanced Darkseid and Superman a victory, thats fine. If DS and Thanos are equal. Then Thanos would have lost. No Ultra motherbox powered Omega effect here, and it took more than one blast AND an enhanced superman. Thanos wouldnt have fared any better. Cyborg still wasnt killed.

I've never seen anyone think that Cyborg would be an easy fight either.

Who's talking about Lucifer and Micheal? If death wanted Thanos or Cyborg they would be dead too. The point is they arent easy to kill. Funny, they have both "died" and have come back to life. Lobo anyone? He laughs at death.

We havent even gotten into the speed issue. How fast is Thanos compared to Cyborg?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Punching and kicking is not going to work isn't going to work anymore against Cyborg than it is against Thanos. Melt cyborgs body? Doubtful. This is a guy who has survived being thrown in a black hole. Supernova will probably hurt Thanos more than Cyborg. This is a guy that has stood in the middle of an explosion that ATOMIZED everything else around him and didn't have a hair out of place. He also doesnt even have to be in a single body, he can occupy or command multiple bodies, depending on where he is, he can be the enviroment. If Thanos has bionics or uses any tech, it will be used against himself. Durability, If thanos were thrown into the source wall, he wouldnt fare any better than the promethian giants that are stuck there... what did cyborg do? He took over a section of the wall for himself...and yes, the wall self repairs, so it does have some sentience to it. If something hurts thanos, cyborg can create it and use it. Its what he does.

Actually thanos can easily win.

I was digging through some Superman Comics.

When Cyborg was connected to a Planet (and was using that as a weapon)

All superman had to do his disconnect him from the planet, and supes physically abused him in the air.

Later when Cyborg comes back from the dimension (phantom zone), he kicked supes ass , but he gets trapped by energy(rays) that paralyzed him ( Thanos has done this to more powerful beings)

He can also be sent to different dimension (he was send to the phantom zone)

Superman was physically able to stand up to Cyborg (after his so called rebirth) even for a little bit

Thanos has way to many ways to beat him.

If rays can stop him, Thanos can trap him easily.

And if you want to use crossover Cyborg was begging Galactus to become a cosmic being? And didn’t Galactus manipulate him to shit.

THe same Cosmic beings Thanos beats easily.

Originally posted by kgkg
Actually thanos can easily win.

I was digging through some Superman Comics.

When Cyborg was connected to a Planet (and was using that as a weapon)

All superman had to do his disconnect him from the planet, and supes physically abused him in the air.

Later when Cyborg comes back from the dimension (phantom zone), he kicked supes ass , but he gets trapped by energy(rays) that paralyzed him ( Thanos has done this to more powerful beings)

He can also be sent to different dimension (he was send to the phantom zone)

Superman was physically able to stand up to Cyborg (after his so called rebirth) even for a little bit

Thanos has way to many ways to beat him.

If rays can stop him, Thanos can trap him easily.

And if you want to use crossover Cyborg was begging Galactus to become a cosmic being? And didn’t Galactus manipulate him to shit.

THe same Cosmic beings Thanos beats easily.

For the crossover, why wouldnt he ask for power cosmic from galactus? His power levels would go through the roof if power cosmic were added to his own. Look at what it did for Supes. He laughed at Surfers power, but respected Galactus (as he should.)

All villains will lose one way or another. Thanos was beaten down by Doctor Doom while wearing the infinity Gauntlet. This debate also doesnt negate that Thanos himself could be put in the phantom zone and any tech he uses can be used against him.

Cyborg is also way faster and doesnt have to be in one body. Thanos may affect one body while Cy is inhabiting another and he certainly is not stronger than Henshaw..

In my opinion, Either one can beat the other on any given occasion. I'm just leaning more towards Cyborg...especially if it's true Thanos doenst control his own molecules like Cyborg can.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
For the crossover, why wouldnt he ask for power cosmic from galactus? His power levels would go through the roof if power cosmic were added to his own. Look at what it did for Supes. He laughed at Surfers power, but respected Galactus (as he should.)

All villains will lose one way or another. Thanos was beaten down by Doctor Doom while wearing the infinity Gauntlet. This debate also doesnt negate that Thanos himself could be put in the phantom zone and any tech he uses can be used against him.

Cyborg is also way faster and doesnt have to be in one body. Thanos may affect one body while Cy is inhabiting another and he certainly is not stronger than Henshaw..

In my opinion, Either one can beat the other on any given occasion. I'm just leaning more towards Cyborg...especially if it's true Thanos doenst control his own molecules like Cyborg can.

Was easily defeated by energy beams ( from his rebirth) and one time even with the planet to help him he couldn’t beat superman.

Of course the enemy also loosed but Thanos loosing to someone who gets easily trapped by energy beams, and can easily be teleported to different dimensions.

And Superman was always putting somewhat of a fight with just his fight.

Cyborg got stronger , but was immune to energy attack like beam , that could paralyze him

Thanos has energy beams that can paralyze him like what happened to him last time.

Originally posted by kgkg
Maybe you missed the part were hensay

Was easily defeated by energy beams ( from his rebirth) and one time even with the planet to help him he couldn’t beat superman.

Of course the enemy also loosed but Thanos loosing to someone who gets easily trapped by energy beams, and can easily be teleported to different dimensions.

And Superman was always putting someone what of a fight with just his fights

Thanos has energy beams that can paralyze him like what happened to him last time.

Like I said in mine. Thanos was beaten down while wearing the Gauntlet by Doctor Doom. Maybe you missed that part.

Energy beam? Force field. Move to a different body. Not hard. Cyborg much much faster than Thanos. Stronger by default.

Thanos could easily be teleported to the phantom zone himself. Have you seen anyone resist being thrown in there? Once in His powers would be useless.

but kg, thanos uses his beams destructively. he can only 'trap' (a la mad, power gem thor) in energy with added tech. i admit i know enough about cyborg to be considered partially competent at best in this discussion, but it seems it would come down to thanos's blasting him to crap, or fighting him h2h. thanos can't teleport him to another dimension without added tech or weapons - not unless that has been added to his personal power very recently. i know he has some psionically based power, but the extent of it seems a bit unknown. thanos actually has a lot smaller sprectrum of power than ss has - just that what he has is enormously strong. coupled with physical power, his tech and brains he is a brutal opponent.

in a ring, no tech, no other gadgets or tricks, would his blasts and strength be enough?

i honestly don't know. i would have thought so, but av has done a good job presenting cyborg's case. this is a much more interesting fight than i would have thought it to be.

Originally posted by leonidas
but kg, thanos uses his beams destructively. he can only 'trap' (a la mad, power gem thor) in energy with added tech. i admit i know enough about cyborg to be considered partially competent at best in this discussion, but it seems it would come down to thanos's blasting him to crap, or fighting him h2h. thanos can't teleport him to another dimension without added tech or weapons - not unless that has been added to his personal power very recently. i know he has some psionically based power, but the extent of it seems a bit unknown. thanos actually has a lot smaller sprectrum of power than ss has - just that what he has is enormously strong. coupled with physical power, his tech and brains he is a brutal opponent.

in a ring, no tech, no other gadgets or tricks, would his blasts and strength be enough?

i honestly don't know. i would have thought so, but av has done a good job presenting cyborg's case. this is a much more interesting fight than i would have thought it to be.

Energy beams, thanos can easily put him in a force field and teleport his ass, or break him to bits with cosmic blast.

I remember Cyborg acting all he was the shit ( when he was using a planet) and was able to make something that can destroy a city.

He was acting like he was the Shit.

City destroying attack vs World Destroying attacks, and Cyborg was using a planet as a weapon that time.

If Superman can at least physically hang with him, thanos with cosmic blast can rip Cyborg to pieces.

Thanos is strong enough to knock out Silver Surfer.

yeah, 'fraid i think you're right. 'borg might cause him some grief for a time, but ultimately i really can't see him taking down thanos. sorry av.

🙁

Originally posted by kgkg
He doesn't need Tech, and you don't need force blocks to trap Cyborg either.

Energy beams, thanos can easily put him in a force field and teleport his ass, or break him to bits with cosmic blast.

I remember Cyborg acting all he was the shit ( when he was using a planet) and was able to make something that can destroy a city.

He was acting like he was the Shit.

City destroying attack vs World Destroying attacks, and Cyborg was using a planet as a weapon that time.

If Superman can at least physically hang with him, thanos with cosmic blast can rip Cyborg to pieces.

Thanos is strong enough to knock out Silver Surfer.

Here we go with the Planet Destroying crap u sooo love. Maybe you should be watching DBZ. 😄 When has Thanos destroyed a planet with a blast under regular power?

He knocked out Surfer physically? Wow. Big deal. Henshaw has taken out Eradicator even easier, and Eradicator is basically the same thing as surfer...except, he doesnt need a board to fly...

You forget after that battle Henshaw was survived a black hole, can make forcefields of his own, can create bodies basically instantly, and is faster than Thanos. He can upgrade easily during the fight.

Thanos thought he was the *shit* (as you put it) with the Gauntlet, and nearly got knocked out by Doom a human.

Keeping these 2 characters in context. It's a very fair fight.

Here we go with the Planet Destroying crap u sooo love. Maybe you should be watching DBZ. 😄 When has Thanos destroyed a planet with a blast under regular power?

Silver Surfer destroys planet, and takes planet destroying attacks.

Silver Surfer attacks at full power with cosmic blast --------- Doesn't really hurt thanos , Thanos didn't physically defeated Silver Surfer , he was amping his punches with cosmic powers , and that’s what SS does also.

There isn’t any Physically being that Thanos can’t handle ( Drax , Hulk , Champ etc)

He knocked out Surfer physically? Wow. Big deal. Henshaw has taken out Eradicator even easier, and Eradicator is basically the same thing as surfer...except, he doesnt need a board to fly...

Not only has he knocked Silver Surfer.

He also defeated Fallen One, Thor , Drax , Hulk etc with ease.

You forget after that battle Henshaw was survived a black hole, can make forcefields of his own, can create bodies basically instantly, and is faster than Thanos. He can upgrade easily during the fight.

Superman K.o'ed him with punches, Thanos with cosmic blast will rip him.

And he did upgrade himself to City destroying attacks, that’s nothing SS , Drax etc are all planet destroyers.

Thanos thought he was the *shit* (as you put it) with the Gauntlet, and nearly got knocked out by Doom a human.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, 'fraid i think you're right. 'borg might cause him some grief for a time, but ultimately i really can't see him taking down thanos. sorry av.

🙁

Cyborg (this is suppose to be the all amped up Cyborg)

Since he was using the planet as a weapon

k.O

<<Cyborg (this is suppose to be the all amped up Cyborg)
Since he was using the planet as a weapon>>

ouch! great punch . . .

🙂

Originally posted by kgkg
Well let's see

Silver Surfer destroys planet, and takes planet destroying attacks.

Silver Surfer attacks at full power with cosmic blast --------- Doesn't really hurt thanos , Thanos didn't physically defeated Silver Surfer , he was amping his punches with cosmic powers , and that&#8217;s what SS does also.

There isn&#8217;t any Physically being that Thanos can&#8217;t handle ( Drax , Hulk , Champ etc)

Not only has he knocked Silver Surfer.

He also defeated Fallen One, Thor , Drax , Hulk etc with ease.

He has survived a black hole, but he can still be trapped easily with beam, and can be teleported easily.

Superman K.o'ed him with punches, Thanos with cosmic blast will rip him.

And he did upgrade himself to City destroying attacks, that&#8217;s nothing SS , Drax etc are all planet destroyers.

What issue, Thanos was toying with them, he easily defeated MU heros and cosmic as I recall.

Good scans. Well done. Have to give credit where it's due.
The issues I'm talking about with Doom was infinity Gauntlet #3 if I remember correctly. Also Nebula held him in a cement trap in issue #6. She also easily sent him away to Strange's place. I'll see if I can get scans of that as well.

It took Supes everything he had in that punch. The one that KO'd DD, and Darkseid. Thanos has not shown physical strength comparable to supes on his own. Thanos blasts will do nothing. Borg has stood in the middle of explosions that literally atomized everything around him and has stood unharmed.

Of course, he could just skip the Bio half all together and do this.