Can't they do one Batman movie without a love interest?
Pretty much every Batman movie up to this point, even Phantasm, has had a love interest in it who learns Batman's secret identity. I wish Begins didn't have a love interest. Originally I thought it was too dark to spend the movie talking about something as frivolous as that, but then bam the chick from Dawson's Creek or Party of Five or whatever it was is in it. Batman isn't supposed to fall in love, dammit.
I'd love it, and I think it would make me like BB even better than how much I already do, if they don't do a love interest anymore for the next 2 movies.
With the filler space about Rachel's character, they could spend between the friendship of Dent and Bruce, and use that as the "sacrificial lamb" type of character. That's the emotional connection. I don't think Bruce should love anybody now, unless they do Selina Kyle, which they most likely won't. Until then, I think the only women that play in the movies should be either someone he's pimping out or someone who has no romantic connection to him.
Don't make the mistake of having a VV, a SK, a CM and then using some chick as "oh this is his gf...she's worthless in the plot by the way".
Originally posted by Red Superfly
Catwoman is the only one that matters anyways.They need to bring in Selina Kyle. Catwoman would work so well in the Begins world.
Either her or Talia considerring who Begins' main villain is.
A Talia thing would be excellent, but....shouldn't it have taken place BEFORE him meeting Ra's? Also, i don't think many new Batman fans know who she is....
~wickerman~
I think we can safely say Halle Berry won't be popping up as Catwoman. She ruined the character, but that movie heavily played on the "There's a whole line of Catwomen in history, meow" and they can show a new Kyle in the next Batman flick, without ever going into detail about the cats choosing women to fight crime.
And without that lame mysticism, Selina could totally be this awesome thief. A cool leather uniform will be nice, but I'm not too big of a fan of Jim Lee drawing those HUGE goggles on her.
I suppose they always throw in a damsel in distress because they need something for the girlfriends who are dragged to the theater to enjoy. Now I don't support this, so don't be like "OMGWTFF THAS SO STUPID", but its somewhat true. The new Batman flicks are pretty much dark, and love interests do not fit in well. Heck they could even take it out, as us fanboys would see the film with or without their girlfriends. And that's even with me avoiding the stereotypical we're all fat fanboys who live in our Mother's basement.
Originally posted by Batman Wins
Different ***** every movie. Batman is James Bond. Neverrr see the same girl in a Batman movie.
I HATE that and I really hope that Rachel will return for Batman Begins 2.
Why is it that when movies like this include a female character, everyone dismisses her as just 'the love interest?'. There's a lot more to her than that. Are you saying that these movies shouldn't have any females in lead roles? That would be ridiculous.
Rachel is Bruce's best friend and is one of the few uncorruptible D.A.'s in Gotham (and is therefore a vital ally in Batman's fight against crime). It will be stupid if she isn't in the next movie.
Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
Well its better than Spiderman movie, when Spidey drooling over mary jane instead of saving the world, but you would probaly do the same.
thats an understatement,yeah at least in batman begins they did not have the movie be all about the girl like they did in those two god awful movies.but yeah it seems they cant seem to make a batman movie without a love interest in it or having the girl learn his identity.I sure as hell hope the sequels dont follow what the batman movies from the 90's did,having a new girl in every flick and then she learns his identity.that got to be tiresome.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
I HATE that and I really hope that Rachel will return for Batman Begins 2.Why is it that when movies like this include a female character, everyone dismisses her as just 'the love interest?'. There's a lot more to her than that. Are you saying that these movies shouldn't have any females in lead roles? That would be ridiculous.
Rachel is Bruce's best friend and is one of the few uncorruptible D.A.'s in Gotham (and is therefore a vital ally in Batman's fight against crime). It will be stupid if she isn't in the next movie.
Agreed, she served her purpose and wasnt' just a mindless bimbo. HOWEVER, most superhero films have a damsel in distress, and if you look at the Batman films, and even Spider-Man to an extent, some characters fall under that.
Chase Meridian - gave a tiny bit of insight into Bruce's nature, but honestly, the # of scenes she did that in was irrelevant. Alfred could've done the same in a 5 minute span. She was there to be a big female part even though she contributed nothing but distress to the situation.
Vale - someone to tell the story through the eyes of...that's it. Didn't capture Batman, didn't help him out, didn't serve a plot point really after the first fifteen or so minutes.
Mary Jane Watson - exists to annoy Peter in his love-quest for her, and to be the woman that gets captured so that Spider-Man has to save her in a fit of romance mixed with the quarrel w/ the villain.
Generally, women, if not the superhero themselves, are reduced to mere giggling idiots in these films. Rachel, one of the reasons why I liked the character, actually served a purpose in the film and was only rescued once. It wasn't a 3 rescue deal or something where she's too
....stupid to get out of harm's way.
What I feel, though, is that if they introduce another female lead, if its not someone like Poison Ivy or Catwoman, or something of the sorts, its just going to be someone that Bruce knows, has a love interest with, and protects, which is just gonna be a waste of space in a film.
"Rachel, one of the reasons why I liked the character, actually served a purpose in the film and was only rescued once. It wasn't a 3 rescue deal or something"
I agree. That's exactly why I liked Rachel and this movie. That is also the reason why they should keep Rachel for Batman Begins 2 and not have someone new.
"Generally, women, if not the superhero themselves, are reduced to mere giggling idiots in these films."
I HATE that and I hope that future movies will follow a similar trend to Batman Begins.