Bane with venom juice & venom symbiosis runs gauntlet

Originally posted by masterbruce
nothing is certainty, since Venom Bane doesn't exist, everything is mere speculation on our part

Symbiote peter would be stronger than symbiote bane, and faster, and smarter, and more agile, with precognition that is greater than venom's and carnages, although they dampen it. He doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by masterbruce
When Bane gets venom symbiote, that would be a symbiote akin to what Carnage is as the symbiote evolves a bit after every host. Now, if the symbiote can turn a skinny weakling like Kassidy into someone who regularly pummels Spidey and Venom, imagine what Bane with roid rage could do...

Nono, you got it wrong. The symbiote evolves as offspring. Peter<Venom<Carnage<Toxic. The symboites actually aren't as good when they are on a new host. Spiderman took care of the carnage symbiote when it was on SS. Spiderman went beserk and took care of the venom symbiote when it was on a new guy, despite the symbiote being stronger, the person lacked experience. thats a key part. Spiderman against a fresh symbiote on Bane would give him a run for his money.

Originally posted by masterbruce
another point is that you guys fail to make notice of the possible interplay between the symbiote and the venom steroid, it is very possible that the steroid itself will push the symbiote to powerful new levels and abilities (perhaps immunity to sound and heat attacks)

Wrong, the symbiote wouldn't. In fact the farther the symbiote evolves, its weakness to fire increases, but the sonic resistance decreases. Venom and Carnage don't need sonics to tear bane apart. It took peter, venom, and the FF to shut down carnage, you must not realize how powerful he is.

Originally posted by masterbruce
its conveivable that Venom Bane would be one of the more powerful characters in marvel earth, and i stick with my assertion that Venom Bane makes it to Juggernaut

He wouldn't. The symbiote would do little for him, carnage can take him alone, venom and carnage, is overkill.

few things... are we using eddies classic venom suit plus bane? or are we using the suit as it is now plus bane?

cause that's a good 15 to 20 tons of lifting difference...

in any case bane's venom allows him to be resistant to pain enough as it is, with the symbiote's healing factor, his durability and stamina will be exponential.

i'd venture to say that his strength with roids and the old venom would be in the 30 to 35 tons class...new venom suit should be in the 40 to 45 with roids that would put him in the 50 ton class range...that coupled with his genious level inellect, strategic mind, and fighting skills on par with batman, I assume he could make his way all the way to classic juggs before he got stomped out....but venom and carnage also have a very good chance at taking him down as well...

I don't think so, symbiote spiderman was NEVER that strong.

Regardless he loses at venom and carnage, because if ANYTHING he would be inexperienced with the symbiote.

the symbiote that was on spiderman was the original spiderman, it didn't have any powers, which is why peter symbiote is not necessarily stronger than venom

after it left spiderman, it had absorbed all of spiderman's powers and grants those powers to its host

who said anything about symbiote spiderman?

Originally posted by masterbruce
the symbiote that was on spiderman was the original spiderman, it didn't have any powers, which is why peter symbiote is not necessarily stronger than venom

after it left spiderman, it had absorbed all of spiderman's powers and grants those powers to its host

Which one?

SPiderman did get stronger in one version, I'm understanding that, but Bane has little experience with the symbiote, SS in Carnage anyone?