Solaris vs Thor

<<Opinions is all good can you prove it leo>>

not this again . . .

dude, the guy was in like 8 comics. not really easy to find a list of feats. from dc 1000 000 we know he can snuff out a red giant with his breath. he can (in a WEAKENED state) punch through time (what would THAT punch feel like if it hit??). he's ftl. he is a high level psi with undisclosed magical power. he can calculate billions of battle scenarios/second. he has none of supes weaknesses but all of his strengths to the nth degree. using his psi powers, he has apparently manipulated all the stars in a galaxy. (still strying to find that one but i've seen it posted a number of times AND in many different forums. still, myself, i can't yet confirm or show a scan - but i'm looking. kinda like you assuming all along keeper>galactus, or that the famous ego v gladiator battle took place in continuity. 🙂)

and solaris would beat ss the same way thanos beats him all the time. he's just to damn powerful for ss to deal with.

ps-good thread by the way. IF it can somehow stay on topic . . .

🙂

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_One_Million

Whole story.

And all the superman fanboys saying supes smashed the gates of heaven down to get lois is wrong, if u go to the bottom it says how she actually comes back.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<Opinions is all good can you prove it leo>>

not this again . . .

dude, the guy was in like 8 comics. not really easy to find a list of feats. from dc 1000 000 we know he can snuff out a red giant with his breath. he can (in a WEAKENED state) punch through time (what would THAT punch feel like if it hit??). he's ftl. he is a high level psi with undisclosed magical power. he can calculate billions of battle scenarios/second. he has none of supes weaknesses but all of his strengths to the nth degree. using his psi powers, he has apparently manipulated all the stars in a galaxy. (still strying to find that one but i've seen it posted a number of times AND in many different forums. still, myself, i can't yet confirm or show a scan - but i'm looking. kinda like you assuming all along keeper>galactus, or that the famous ego v gladiator battle took place in continuity. 🙂)

and solaris would beat ss the same way thanos beats him all the time. he's just to damn powerful for ss to deal with.

ps-good thread by the way. IF it can somehow stay on topic . . .

🙂

-he can snuff out a red giant with his breath - Issue number?
-he has apparently manipulated all the stars in a galaxy - Issue Number
i have almost 1mil cosmic can you show give me issue # that whould shock me leo?

Solaris is a like a Sun , no heat can hurt Silver Surfer ---- you know that.

but i'm looking. kinda like you assuming all along keeper>galactus, or that the famous ego v gladiator battle took place in continuity. )

When Galactus kicked the Keepers ass, it seems he was stronger than ever, and ruthless.

Remember Galactus at full power has no limit he has power of his old universe.

so it should be

Keeper = Normal Galactus > Full Fed Galactus

Even drained Weak Galactus would take over Marvel earth with little effort

what issue of Gladiator are you talking about leo

Originally posted by kgkg
i have the DC 1 mil comics

-he can snuff out a red giant with his breath - Issue number?
-he has apparently manipulated all the stars in a galaxy - Issue Number
i have almost 1mil cosmic can you show give me issue # that whould shock me leo?

Solaris is a like a Sun , no heat can hurt Silver Surfer ---- you know that.

He is a bit like a sun but he releases all kinds of energy, No Sun could kill Captain Marvels and 5 dimensional imps, his power does.

<<He is a bit like a sun but he releases all kinds of energy, No Sun could kill Captain Marvels and 5 dimensional imps, his power does.>.

yep. he doesn't use just heat. he's not even a sun, really, but a super computer, capable of coming up with defenses against any attacks. you couldn't have thought his only attack was heat??

the 'breath that can snuff out a red star' comes from dc 1000 000 #2, as he simply blows firestorm away. i told you i'm looking for the issue where he used his powers to manipulate the galaxies. that comes from heresay (though a lot of it) and i don't have all the 1000 000 x-over issues, i don't think. if i find it i'll let you know.

the glads part is referring to the battle where glads did so well against ego. i'm nearly positive (99%) that took place in one of the marvel adventures books and is out of continuity. i've been trying to find the issue it took place in, but i've had no luck.

and since galactus was getting ready to feed, he obviously wasn't at full power. he'd just had enough of keeper trailing him like a puppy. and where did eon say keeper was the equal of galactus?

Originally posted by leonidas
seriously, how on earth is thor gonna beat solaris??? it might take a few minutes to adapt to thor's magic (like it was in the process of doing to lantern's ring) but then it would crush thor. i mean solaris wiped out hundreds of thousands of heroes in his time - including many magical/psi powered AMPED supermen!

Originally posted by whirlysplat
who had wrestled evil gods and circumnavigated the universe.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<Opinions is all good can you prove it leo>>

not this again . . .

dude, the guy was in like 8 comics. not really easy to find a list of feats. from dc 1000 000 we know he can snuff out a red giant with his breath. he can (in a WEAKENED state) punch through time (what would THAT punch feel like if it hit??). he's ftl. he is a high level psi with undisclosed magical power. he can calculate billions of battle scenarios/second. he has none of supes weaknesses but all of his strengths to the nth degree. using his psi powers, he has apparently manipulated all the stars in a galaxy. (still strying to find that one but i've seen it posted a number of times AND in many different forums. still, myself, i can't yet confirm or show a scan - but i'm looking. kinda like you assuming all along keeper>galactus, or that the famous ego v gladiator battle took place in continuity. 🙂)

and solaris would beat ss the same way thanos beats him all the time. he's just to damn powerful for ss to deal with.

ps-good thread by the way. IF it can somehow stay on topic . . .

🙂

Can anyone actually prove any of this? There are so many lies surrounding Superman Prime, it's hard to distingsuish fanboy Superman Prime from the real thing.

yep. he doesn't use just heat. he's not even a sun, really, but a super computer, capable of coming up with defenses against any attacks. you couldn't have thought his only attack was heat??

Now as for Supes 1mil still waiting leo

And glad also Issue number, and were did you hear it was not in continuity.

Eon said not as herald but as equal partners or someshit like that.

well he was feeding or not , Kepper said Galactus was stronger than ever.

<<He has been said to be a living Sun , SS absorbs stars --- important fact.>>

not as important as the fact that it is not 'really' a sun. IT IS A COMPUTER.

<<Now as for Supes 1mil still waiting leo>>

i told you the issue # for the breath reference that you didn't believe. and i told you if i find the other, i'll be CERTAIN to let you know before i tell anyone else.

<<And glad also Issue number, and were did you hear it was not in continuity.>>

there is refernce to it in marvel adventures. its a series of comics for kids 10 and under (er, that's not you, is it? 🙂) and the stories take place outside continuity. glads has also fought ss in the same arc, according to the site i was looking through. makes perfect sense, really - it'sthe reason NO ONE has ever given an issue number for that battle. if someone can provide said mystery issue, as will apologize and retract my statement. but as it is, i'm afraid the mythical ego v glads battle took place out of continuity and, as with many things on the forum, because one person says it, everyone believes it. (ie - keeper>galactus)

<<Eon said not as herald but as equal partners or someshit like that.>>

c'mon. he said that ss can travel with galactus again, but not as a herald, as an equal. that just meant ss wouldn't be subservient this time, not that he was 'literally' galctus's equal. as was clearly shown.

<<well he was feeding or not , Kepper said Galactus was stronger than ever.>>

man, stop making excuses. g wasn't at full power, but obviously he was pissed. g doesn't get pissed often, but whatever, it was still just regular, not-full-powered galactus. damn, you will defend your favourites until the bitter, illogical end, won't you?

and khell:

<<Show me where he adapted to magic. If he was a super computer living sun, adapting tot hinks like super strength and heat vision and even psychic attacks is one thing, but adapting to a magical artifact draining him of his power source is something else entirely. >>

the superman dynasty are imbued with IMP MAGIC! clearly (since it killed so many of them) it is capable of adapting to THAT magic, so why not thor's? as i said, it might take a bit of time, but adapt it would. i also don't think it's illogical to assume the captain marvels of the timeline would have employed magic against solaris as well, and that in its 80 000 year history it seems likely it would have battled many magical heroes. the ring worked because it was new. thor's MIGHT be new (though i'd tend to doubt it since it has seen magic even if just the imps'😉 but it would adapt as it was created (forced itself) to do.

and khell:

<<Show me where he adapted to magic. If he was a super computer living sun, adapting tot hinks like super strength and heat vision and even psychic attacks is one thing, but adapting to a magical artifact draining him of his power source is something else entirely. >>

the superman dynasty are imbued with IMP MAGIC! clearly (since it killed so many of them) it is capable of adapting to THAT magic, so why not thor's? as i said, it might take a bit of time, but adapt it would. i also don't think it's illogical to assume the captain marvels of the timeline would have employed magic against solaris as well, and that in its 80 000 year history it seems likely it would have battled many magical heroes. the ring worked because it was new. thor's MIGHT be new (though i'd tend to doubt it since it has seen magic even if just the imps'😉 but it would adapt as it was created (forced itself) to do. [/B][/QUOTE]

not as important as the fact that it is not 'really' a sun. IT IS A COMPUTER.

i told you the issue # for the breath reference that you didn't believe. and i told you if i find the other, i'll be CERTAIN to let you know before i tell anyone else.

there is refernce to it in marvel adventures. its a series of comics for kids 10 and under (er, that's not you, is it? 🙂) and the stories take place outside continuity. glads has also fought ss in the same arc, according to the site i was looking through. makes perfect sense, really - it'sthe reason NO ONE has ever given an issue number for that battle. if someone can provide said mystery issue, as will apologize and retract my statement. but as it is, i'm afraid the mythical ego v glads battle took place out of continuity and, as with many things on the forum, because one person says it, everyone believes it. (ie - keeper>galactus)

c'mon. he said that ss can travel with galactus again, but not as a herald, as an equal. that just meant ss wouldn't be subservient this time, not that he was 'literally' galctus's equal. as was clearly shown.

man, stop making excuses. g wasn't at full power, but obviously he was pissed. g doesn't get pissed often, but whatever, it was still just regular, not-full-powered galactus. damn, you will defend your favourites until the bitter, illogical end, won't you?

and 1 Million can't do shit to kepper , till someone can prove it other wise

Originally posted by leonidas
<<He has been said to be a living Sun , SS absorbs stars --- important fact.>>

not as important as the fact that it is not 'really' a sun. IT IS A COMPUTER.

<<Now as for Supes 1mil still waiting leo>>

i told you the issue # for the breath reference that you didn't believe. and i told you if i find the other, i'll be CERTAIN to let you know before i tell anyone else.

<<And glad also Issue number, and were did you hear it was not in continuity.>>

there is refernce to it in marvel adventures. its a series of comics for kids 10 and under (er, that's not you, is it? 🙂) and the stories take place outside continuity. glads has also fought ss in the same arc, according to the site i was looking through. makes perfect sense, really - it'sthe reason NO ONE has ever given an issue number for that battle. if someone can provide said mystery issue, as will apologize and retract my statement. but as it is, i'm afraid the mythical ego v glads battle took place out of continuity and, as with many things on the forum, because one person says it, everyone believes it. (ie - keeper>galactus)

<<Eon said not as herald but as equal partners or someshit like that.>>

c'mon. he said that ss can travel with galactus again, but not as a herald, as an equal. that just meant ss wouldn't be subservient this time, not that he was 'literally' galctus's equal. as was clearly shown.

<<well he was feeding or not , Kepper said Galactus was stronger than ever.>>

man, stop making excuses. g wasn't at full power, but obviously he was pissed. g doesn't get pissed often, but whatever, it was still just regular, not-full-powered galactus. damn, you will defend your favourites until the bitter, illogical end, won't you?

and khell:

<<Show me where he adapted to magic. If he was a super computer living sun, adapting tot hinks like super strength and heat vision and even psychic attacks is one thing, but adapting to a magical artifact draining him of his power source is something else entirely. >>

the superman dynasty are imbued with IMP MAGIC! clearly (since it killed so many of them) it is capable of adapting to THAT magic, so why not thor's? as i said, it might take a bit of time, but adapt it would. i also don't think it's illogical to assume the captain marvels of the timeline would have employed magic against solaris as well, and that in its 80 000 year history it seems likely it would have battled many magical heroes. the ring worked because it was new. thor's MIGHT be new (though i'd tend to doubt it since it has seen magic even if just the imps'😉 but it would adapt as it was created (forced itself) to do.

Imp magic isn't really magic. It's 5th dimensional science, whatever the hell that means.

Keeper is leagues above Firestorm. The Quantum Bands give Surfer limitless energy for his powers, so he can increase his power cosmic to unprecedented levels.

There's a difference between saying, "you're my equal," and "you're not my slave." Keeper might not be superior to Galactus, or equal, but I'd say he's damn close.

<<Keeper is leagues above Firestorm. The Quantum Bands give Surfer limitless energy for his powers, so he can increase his power cosmic to unprecedented levels.>>

true, but supes (with a single breath!) basically just blew him away from the battle. firestorm is among dc's most powerful heroes and firestorm DID get back into the fight after, but still - supes was weakened AND he didn't want to hurt him.

<<There's a difference between saying, "you're my equal," and "you're not my slave." Keeper might not be superior to Galactus, or equal, but I'd say he's damn close.>>

i said initially, in a different thread, he's likely 'round skyfather level. g kicked his ASS in that fight. i see no reason he couldn't do so every time. when keeper beat him, g himself said he was at the lowest energy level he had ever been at in his existence. many characters could beat galactus at that level.

and i get what you're saying about imp magic, cube, but 5th dimensional science IS magic to us because it doesn't follow any of our natural laws. i still say if it could adapt to that, it could adapt to battle thor. in dc 1000 000 (and kg, get your friggin' dc 1000 000 ltd series out, find issue #2 turn to page 14 and read it - CRIPES do i have to read it for you too?!!) references are made several times to cap marvel. don't you think it likely the marvels would have employed magic against it? and cube, honestly, in EIGHTY-THOUSAND YEARS, don't you think it is likely SOME magical character would have gone up against him?

and kg - how is it better that solaris is a fully adaptable killing super computer, rather than a sun?

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(and kg, get your friggin' dc 1000 000 ltd series out, find issue #2 turn to page 14 and read it - CRIPES do i have to read it for you too?!!) references are made several times to cap marvel. don't you think it likely the marvels would have employed magic against it? and cube, honestly, in EIGHTY-THOUSAND YEARS, don't you think it is likely SOME magical character would have gone up against him?

Silver Surfer says he can easily take supernova , and has shown in battle to be able to do such things

and kg - how is it better that solaris is a fully adaptable killing super computer, rather than a sun?

what the hell is kry? and supes 1000 000 is beatable by many heroes away from the supersun, (he'd only been on earth minutes when his powers already started to dramatically wane) but (according again to dc 1000 000) by nearly no one in his own solar system.

a computer can be broke?? sigh . . ..

Originally posted by leonidas
what the hell is kry? and supes 1000 000 is beatable by many heroes away from the supersun, (he'd only been on earth minutes when his powers already started to dramatically wane) but (according again to dc 1000 000) by nearly no one in his own solar system.

a computer can be broke?? sigh . . ..

Silver Surfer

"Can anyone actually prove any of this? There are so many lies surrounding Superman Prime, it's hard to distingsuish fanboy Superman Prime from the real thing."

All the talk about him wrestling gods and being all over the Universe was never showed. Just implicated. He didnt showed any power against Solaris as well because he used the Green lantern Ring.

In the end i take it as mostly hype.

Originally posted by kgkg
the superman dynasty are imbued with IMP MAGIC!

<<Kryptonite and various radiations with kryptonite wave length.

Silver Surfer>>

dude, supes 1000 000 IS NOT VULNERABLE to k-radiation. all of supes weaknesses have been removed.
<<No, as a result of a marriage between an imp and one of the superman dynasty, they were given a resistance to magic, it never says they have offensive imp magic.>>

khell, this is from a great website:

new powers were added to the Dynasty with the marriage of the 67th century Superman to Queen Gzntplzk of the Fifth Dimension, their descendants would be the heroes of two different dimensions with one line of the family becoming the Supermen and Superwomen of the Fifth Dimension.

could they really operate in the 5th dimension without 5d powers? but it has also been stated the extent of their imp-based powers are 'undetermined'. no one knows just how much imp-like power they have. but they do have some at least. and if they also defend the 5th dimension, wouldn't it stand to reason that their powers are at least pretty extensive?

anyway, here's the website. i think it's great and has lots of cool info (what little there is that is known) about supes-p and the dynasty.

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1185/future_timeline.html

Originally posted by leonidas
<<Kryptonite and various radiations with kryptonite wave length.

Silver Surfer>>

dude, supes 1000 000 IS NOT VULNERABLE to k-radiation. all of supes weaknesses have been removed.
<<No, as a result of a marriage between an imp and one of the superman dynasty, they were given a resistance to magic, it never says they have offensive imp magic.>>

khell, this is from a great website:

new powers were added to the Dynasty with the marriage of the 67th century Superman to Queen Gzntplzk of the Fifth Dimension, their descendants would be the heroes of two different dimensions with one line of the family becoming the Supermen and Superwomen of the Fifth Dimension.

could they really operate in the 5th dimension without 5d powers? but it has also been stated the extent of their imp-based powers are 'undetermined'. no one knows just how much imp-like power they have. but they do have some at least. and if they also defend the 5th dimension, wouldn't it stand to reason that their powers are at least pretty extensive?

anyway, here's the website. i think it's great and has lots of cool info (what little there is that is known) about supes-p and the dynasty.

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1185/future_timeline.html

leo don't tell you are going by these silly bio?

I have seen at least twice 1 million being effect by Kryptonite and radiation.

Did you not read 1 million?