And to Top it, another feat of Heracles this time at DC.
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?trd=050320160249&q=Hercules
And to Top it, another feat of Heracles this time at DC.
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?trd=050320160249&q=Hercules
What exactly did any of those did that makes you think theyr far above the regular versions? Just curious.
IN the regular 616 colossus is seen as a low level class 100 character. At the most he could probably lift several Kilo tons. If you think he can lift more please show me an example. His greatest feat of strength was stopping that plane in the secret wars. The current Juggernuaght is supposedly on the same level as he is.
In the ultimate universe colossus lifted a nuclear submarine (weighing in excess of 40 kilo tons ) off the bottom of the ocean bed, and brought it to the shore.
In the return to weapon X colossus stopped an on coming train which is likely to weigh between 1 and 5 kilo tons and was probably travelling close to 150 km an hour. As he stopped the train straight in its tracks he would have needed to project a force greater than 40,000 kilo newtons.
In the tomorrow people colossus was able overpower the force of a ultimate sentinel (They look bigger than their 616 counter parts), definately with class 100 strength and throw it about 20 feet into the air. Recently Gambit used his powers to de attach a HUGE ferris wheel from its girders. Colossus was able to stop the wheel while it was in motion with little trouble at all.
Thing in the 616 universe is now apparently a low class 100. It is debatable as wether or not he is even this strong, as most sources, including the official Marvel site state that he is level 6 and can lift about 85 tons.
In FF4 issue 4 Thing was able to KO a monster that was about 20 - 30 storeys high. He was also described by Reed as having the strength to collapse the Baxter building. He also was able to collapse a huge stone pillar while fighting the Mole mans minnions. He recently hit a T Rex in the face and sent him flying about a mile through dense jungle.
"In the ultimate universe colossus lifted a nuclear submarine (weighing in excess of 40 kilo tons )"
Regular universe Colossus can also do that. Most guys at around class 80 and up can with little trouble. Now if you tell me he has more feats in ultimate universe. Then yes. Hes more a front star there. More durable feats also. But stronger? no.
"Thing in the 616 universe is now apparently a low class 100. It is debatable as wether or not he is even this strong, as most sources, including the official Marvel site state that he is level 6 and can lift about 85 tons."
Marvel official stats rarely match what the character do in comics. Ben is indeed a low class 100 by now.
"Regular universe Colossus can also do that. Most guys at around class 80 and up can with little trouble. "
When has he shown he can do that ????????????
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'Marvel official stats rarely match what the character do in comics. Ben is indeed a low class 100 by now.'
Yet he has never matched the feats i have just mentioned .
Please back up your statements !!!!!!! 🙁
"When has he shown he can do that ???????????? "
When you have the strengh to go toe against Gladiator for moments, or Juggernaut you have the strengh to lift that. Both thing and Colossus work more at regular marvel by combat showings. They dont lift around like Herc or hulk do. Im pretty sure tho that both have feats, its a matter of looking.
"Yet he has never matched the feats i have just mentioned ."
How about the weight training tech he has that she Hulk surpassed with one hand recently. Or using buldings and parts of it against Herc and Hulk.
"He was also described by Reed as having the strength to collapse the Baxter building"
See if you can get any fights of him against Hulk or Herc. He uses buldings and parts of it. Under Byrne in an issue of fantastic Four he supports a whole weight of a bridge and stops from making it colapssed. He knocked galactus down after Dr Strange made him see ghosts of the past. Also under Byrne he punches terrax from one building to another. ( same storyarc that led him Ko Galactus ).
"When you have the strengh to go toe against Gladiator for moments, or Juggernaut you have the strengh to lift that. Both thing and Colossus work more at regular marvel by combat showings.2
I pretty certain that Ultimate Thing and Ultimate Colossus would do far better than their 616 counterparts in these fights,
"Also under Byrne he punches terrax from one building to another."
Im sure they can do this aswell.
Also both 616 Thing and Colossus did little to no damage agianst Glads and Juggs.
"Or using buldings and parts of it against Herc and Hulk"
The parts used are impressive, but they are still no were near heavy enough. Thing and Colosus rarely ever picks up anything weighing more than a say 50 tons. Nothing they have used as a weapon is over a Kilo ton.
"Under Byrne in an issue of fantastic Four he supports a whole weight of a bridge and stops from making it colapssed"
This is impressive but i have a copy where Thundra says to Thing that he is not capable of stopping a speeding train. The train in the story is no where near the size of the train Colossus stopped and it is probably not traveling at the same speed.
616 Colossus has never been able to over power Magneto like he did in Return of the King.
What we have here then its inconsistency. I dont mind much what Thundra says. Ben was show - on panel - Putting Galactus down twice, lifting parts of building in fights, figthing a pissed Hulk and Gladiator and he did held that whole bridge by itself. Im like this i rather take whats show in comics 😉
About Magneto its either a) Ultimate Colossus durability being higher. Or b) Ultimate Magneto being weaker.
Even it is the first its fine by me. He sure has more durability feats in the ultimate universe.
"There can be only ONE.
She's way faster, far stronger and a varstly superior fighter.
When the dust settles the attached image says it all."
I rather use others.
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