pro bush supporter jailed

originally posted by PVS
its illegal however (except in norway so we've learned from finti)to discriminate based on race.

_______ discrimination (place of origin/ethnic background/religious background) is illegal(whatever you call it)

French discrimination (could be a clothing company)

happy now?

Originally posted by finti
...but racial discrimination aint the same as denying some nationalities due to political disagreement

i think it is dude
the simple act of denying service toward a nationality for ANY reason is racial discrimination. the notion that someone who is french automatically is against bush is prejudice in every way.

i dont see anything wrong with this. I was treated like shit in paris for the mere fact i was American. How do i know this? because i was told every damn day i spent in the country. France would rock if it weren't for all the damn French people. I cant say i dislike them though, i love there shitty narcissistic attitude.

how is denying a nationality entrance to an establishment racial discrimination when they are of the same race.

Sometimes it is the behaviour from a certain group of tourist from one specific nation that leads to these actions.

That this DAnish guy was pro Bush and let that be the factor for his action is lame though, no disagreement with that

Originally posted by finti
how is denying a nationality entrance to an establishment racial discrimination when they are of the same race.

here we go again

if they are of the same 'race', then who is not a part of their 'race'?
what determines 'race'?

Originally posted by PVS
...and dont get technical about the word "race", unless you feel that somehow black, asian, and latino people are farther removed from you in genetics than another caucasian. and no, they are not.

Originally posted by PVS
no actually you implied that white people cannot be distinguished from eachother under the category of 'race' whereas white/asia/black/latino can.
i wasnt calling you a racist, just so you know who was jumping the gun. if not, then what does racism mean? if i am wrong in my assumption then you feel the term 'race' that we use to describe nationality is incorrect (which is true imo) then give another word for it and
we'll fill in the blank: _______ discrimination

racist is just a term used to identify with.

to identify with what?

you really need to ask that question man? discrimination

Why don't we put the shoe on the other foot? What if this guy was anti-Bush and he denies service to people that voted for Bush and support the war in Iraq? Would that also be discrimination? Yes or No.

here we go again
if they are of the same 'race', then who is not a part of their 'race'?

Originally posted by WindDancer
Why don't we put the shoe on the other foot? What if this guy was anti-Bush and he denies service to people that voted for Bush and support the war in Iraq? Would that also be discrimination? Yes or No.

no, the correct counter-arguement would be this:

what if the man refused to serve people who's countries were supportive of the war. to that i would give the exact same answer. thats racial discrimination.

guess we have a diffrence regarding how to define racial discrimination tehn.
To me it is because of skin color or to a degree religious beliefs

Originally posted by PVS
no, the correct counter-arguement would be this:

what if the man refused to serve people who's countries were supportive of the war. to that i would give the exact same answer. thats racial discrimination.

wouldnt that be just plain discrimination?

Originally posted by finti
well most of Europe belongs to the Caucasian race which means most European are of the same race, you want me to go on or can you take it from here?

caucaisian is not a race. there is no genetic difference between black asian latino and white. all they represent is ancient patterns of breeding where nationality in general represents a less ancient pattern of breeding. there is no difference.

perhaps the man can be accused of being xenophobic but this is different from racism

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
wouldnt that be just plain discrimination?

plain discrimination could be "you're naked, so i wont serve you until you put some cloths on", because i discriminate against naked people...which could be either good or bad for business, but not unethical.

so would you say discriminating against naked people would be racial discrimination? I'm just trying to figure out where your comming from. Because discriminating against someones beliefs (political) has nothing to do with race. Atlleast not the way i'm looking at it.

Originally posted by finti
guess we have a diffrence regarding how to define racial discrimination tehn.
To me it is because of skin color or to a degree religious beliefs

Same for me.

for the last time (god im sick of going in this circle)
they are not being discriminated against for their political beliefs.
a french person who loves george bush and everything he does will
be refused service. therefore, political beliefs are circumstantial.
its about where they are from, not what they believe.
racism.