Lord Hoth vs. Count Dooku

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Lord Hoth vs. Count Dooku

Lord Hoth vs. Count Dooku

CouldLord Hoth defeat Count Dooku?

I know, I post the same thing about Hoth every time.

Most of you probably don't know who Lord Hoth is, so I will fix that.

Lord Hoth was a famous Jedi Master who led the Army of Light against Lord Kaan's Brotherhood of Darkness during the New Sith Wars, until a final confrontation with the forces of darkness at the Battle of Ruusan.

It is likely that his name is connected with that of the planet Hoth, but it is not known if the planet is named for him or the other way around. The Jedi Master did fight a furious battle with Kaan on the planet, but the details of this encounter are unknown.

Regardless, Hoth was one of the foremost Jedi of his era. He clashed continually with his contemporary Lord Farfalla, whose foppish nature was a directly opposed to Hoth’s pragmatism.

Unlike the charismatic Farfalla, Hoth had little time for diplomacy, nor the delicate etiquette his rank sometimes required. Where he did excel was warfare—he was a superb tactician and, even in his advanced age, a warrior without peer.

Naturally, with war against the Sith, it was Hoth who was chosen to led the forces of the Jedi and the Republic. In his youth, Hoth believed he had the power to end the Sith threat singlehandedly, but the war ground on for decades with no end in sight.

The conflict hardened Hoth against the galaxy, and, by the time of the final battle of Ruusan, the once idealistic youth had become a bitter, cynical and haggard veteran. His closest friend and main advisor was fellow veteran Pernicar, while the Jedi that served under him included notables such as General Kiel Charny

Lord Hoth perished when Lord Kaan detonated the thought bomb.

After his death, Hoth's former Padawan, Johun Othone, petitioned the Republic to construct a memorial to the Army of Light on the planet of Ruusan.

Lord Hoth all the way

Give me some official paragraphs on Dooku. It might help solidify my vote.

Strait from SW.com

The movies:

It was a great blow to the Jedi order when Count Dooku voluntarily renounced his commission. A strong-minded man, Dooku's ideas were often out of step with those of the Jedi Council, despite the fact that his former mentor, Yoda, held a lofty position in that governing body. His challenging views were often echoed by his former Padawan, Qui-Gon Jinn, another Jedi who would on occasion defy the Council.
Dooku was a political idealist. He felt that the Jedi weakened themselves by serving an institution as corrupt as the Republic. After his departure, he disappeared for years, re-emerging as a political firebrand fanning the flames of rebellion in the galaxy. In an alarmingly short time, Dooku rallied thousands of systems to his cause, building a growing Separatist movement that threatened to split the Republic.

Opportunists working in Dooku's name would start flashpoints of violence, and it was all the Jedi could do to maintain order in these turbulent times. For all the strife, the Jedi Council refused to believe that Dooku was personally responsible for the worst of the conflicts, believing that his Jedi training elevated him above such acts.

But the Jedi didn't realize Dooku's secret. Behind a veneer of elegant charisma and well-tabled political arguments, Dooku had been corrupted by the power of the dark side. After his departure from the Jedi order, Dooku was seduced to the dark side by Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. By Sith tradition, Dooku adopted the name Darth Tyranus and added deceit and treachery to his already formidable array of weapons.

In both guises, Dooku began recruiting agents for what would eventually amount to the death of the Old Republic. As Tyranus, he contacted the notorious bounty hunter Jango Fett to become the template for a hidden clone army on Kamino. As Dooku, he appealed to the greed of the galaxy's most powerful commerce barons to consolidate their forces to challenge the Republic.

Deep within the mighty spires of Geonosis, Dooku chaired a meeting of the minds to formally create the Confederacy of Independent Systems. Separatist Senators alongside representatives from the Commerce Guild, the Trade Federation, the Corporate Alliance, the InterGalactic Banking Clan and the Techno Union pooled their resources together to form the largest military force in the galaxy. The Separatists were ready for war.

The Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi discovered the treasonous meeting and warned the Republic, but not without being captured. Dooku met with Kenobi in the Geonosian dungeons, and revealed to Obi-Wan the truth about the Republic -- that it was, in fact, becoming increasingly under the control of Darth Sidious. Distrusting of Dooku's words, Obi-Wan refused to believe and refused to join Dooku in rooting out the corruption.

Kenobi was soon joined by Anakin Skywalker and Padmé Amidala, who had come to Geonosis in an ill-fated attempt to rescue him. Dooku placed the three captive heroes in an execution arena, but their deaths were staved off by the timely arrival of Jedi reinforcements.

The droid armies of the Separatists engaged the Jedi, and later the newly crafted Clone Army of the Republic. Dooku attempted to escape but was intercepted by Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi. The two Jedi challenged Dooku to a lightsaber duel, but Dooku's masterful skills in old-style lightsaber combat made short work of the younger combatants. As they lay wounded, another Jedi entered into Dooku's secret hangar.

The Jedi Master Yoda confronted Dooku. The two engaged in a titanic struggle of Force powers, neither besting the other. It came down to a contest of lightsabers. In a blurring tangle of speed and light, the two masters of the Force dueled. Unable to find an advantage, Dooku distracted Yoda by endangering Kenobi and Skywalker with a toppling crane. As Yoda used the Force to save his fellow Jedi, Dooku fled.

Dooku escaped, with the Jedi aware of his succumbing to the dark side, but yet still unaware of his Sith allegiance. Aboard his exotic interstellar sail ship, Dooku traveled to a decrepit warehouse district on Coruscant. There, he met with his master, Darth Sidious, and delivered the good news.

EU:
Dooku had studied the ways of the Force for almost eight decades, becoming one of its most powerful practitioners, though his ultimate loyalty was not to the structured protocols of the Jedi order, but rather to his own intuitions and ideals. His strong sense of independence concerned many, and even his mentor, Yoda, had difficulty reining him in.
When Dooku was 13 years old, he was chosen to be the Padawan apprentice to Jedi Master Thame Cerulian. This drove a wedge between Dooku and his childhood friend and fellow Jedi learner, Lorian Nod. Nod was also headstrong and mischievous, and he tried to blame Dooku for the theft of a Sith Holocron. This led to a long-lasting rivalry between the two, and to Nod's expulsion from the Jedi Temple.

Despite his stubbornness, the Jedi Archives record Dooku as being a formidable Jedi. He settled numerous disputes on scattered worlds and was unequaled in a classical form of lightsaber combat. Dooku was a man of remarkable character and remarkable lineage. His birthright as the Count of Serenno also afforded him incredible wealth, which he used in his political career as Separatist leader.

After leaving the Jedi order, Dooku disappeared for years. He first reemerged on Raxus Prime, complete with a fiery rhetoric lambasting the Senate and the Jedi order's complacency in the visible erosion of morals and ideals of the Republic. Since that time, his base of operations became mobile, as he traveled from world to world, fomenting secession and leading the Separatist movement that soon developed an alarming cohesion.

It is yet unknown when exactly Dooku abandoned himself to the dark side of the Force, though he had apparently experimented with forbidden lore in the past. Rumors abound that Dooku was familiar with Sith teachings stored within a dark Holocron kept in the Jedi Archives.

Is that Hoth?

ya. only picture i have on him.

What a dofus. He looks like Atila the Hun meets Luke Skywalker.

Pfft. On style I give Dooku the points, thus breaking the tiebreaker. Plus, Dooku is older and a Form II master. He pwns.

they really had bad character designs for that series. Bane looks like a retard too.

Ignore. failed picture post.

Bane looks like the lovechild of a jedi monkey and Apocalypse from the Xmen series.

lol is it me or does lord hoth look a little like hulk hogan

ohh and dooku wins this duel

He DOES look like Hulk Hogan.

Ooooohhh yeeeeeah, brother!

thats hoth? isnt that exar kun? im confused

Not Kun. Google Kun in "" marks

One of the worst threads I've ever seen

Hoth wins though. Dooku can't play Risk as well as Hoth can.

No, but Dooku has the innate advantage of being a senior citizen, thus is more experienced in that regard. And experience>defeating Tahl at risk.

Yes but Dooku is overspecialized, whereas Hoth can change his tactics on the fly to suit the need of the moment.

Originally posted by The Creator
Lord Hoth all the way