Its all so true good post
Originally posted by EvilCap America
Sentry Scarlet Witch Pheonix crerating the universe.What do all these have in common?Newly hyped up crap thats likely to get jobbed/retroconned weaker in a short time [Sentry for certain its even been said].God i hate MarvelDC 1 Million was kind of overblown but at LEAST it had a logcial and long enough progression and didnt just get pulled out of a writers ass
Kinda like Cap's Super Soldier Serum, only thing with billions of times the potency.
While the full extent of the Sentry's solar-based abilities is unknown, he has demonstrated super-strength, invulnerability, super-speed, the power of flight and the capacity to control light. The Sentry's abilities derive from an experimental serum that creates a phase-shift in his molecules, causing each atom to step an instant ahead of the current timeline. The serum induces a photosynthetic reaction, resulting in a hyperstate of consciousness. In effect, the Sentry's powers are limitless.
imagine, sentry saying sentry wins! heheh.
once again, the problem with 'the power of a million exploding suns':
IT HAS NO FRAME OF REFERENCE!!!!!! IE - IT IS MEANINGLESS!!
<<Power of stars he doesn't have absorb sunlight, very different from superman>>
it's also different from phoenix. and eternity. and galactus. and odin. and even gladiator, silver surfer, thor and hulk. and pretty much everybody else.
just because it's different doesn't necessarily mean it's better. for a 1000 000 suns to have relevence as a compaison, you need to know how many 'exploding suns' (i can never read/write/say that with a straight face!) empowers other characters. i already pointed out that clearly prime is more powerful than ONE exploding sun (solaris, and that was a living, deadly, computing sun!), so your million - 1 ratio is already out the window. could sentry have walked up to solaris and crushed it without even trying? who knows!! cripes, could galactus have done that?? all we know is that solaris was far more powerful than all of the universes greatest heroes! in contrast, a small group of heroes have chased galactus off several times. hell, thor did it himself once! so, is solaris stronger than a weak g? it would at least appear so based on who they have and have not been able to beat. so, how much stronger? and is he stronger than a strong g? WHO KNOWS!! if he is, or is AS strong as a strong g, and prime crushed him that easily . . .. even if solaris is simply stronger than a weak galactus (which doesn't seem at all illogical to me considering who solaris was beating and who has beaten galactus) that is STILL pretty damn strong!! and again, prime crushed solaris without effort.
just because it's different doesn't necessarily mean it's better. for a 1000 000 suns to have relevence as a compaison, you need to know how many 'exploding suns' (i can never read/write/say that with a straight face!) empowers other characters. i already pointed out that clearly prime is more powerful than ONE exploding sun (solaris, and that was a living, deadly, computing sun!), so your million - 1 ratio is already out the window. could sentry have walked up to solaris and crushed it without even trying? who knows!! cripes, could galactus have done that?? all we know is that solaris was far more powerful than all of the universes greatest heroes! in contrast, a small group of heroes have chased galactus off several times. hell, thor did it himself once! so, is solaris stronger than a weak g? it would at least appear so based on who they have and have not been able to beat. so, how much stronger? and is he stronger than a strong g? WHO KNOWS!! if he is, or is AS strong as a strong g, and prime crushed him that easily . . .. even if solaris is simply stronger than a weak galactus (which doesn't seem at all illogical to me considering who solaris was beating and who has beaten galactus) that is STILL pretty damn strong!! and again, prime crushed solaris without effort.
Sentry = power of 1 million suns hope that helps (it’s energy)
Superman is charged by Sun.
Take a superman example he gets energy from the sun he is all powerful for a period of time.
<<Sentry = power of 1 million suns hope that helps (it’s energy)>>
actually it doesn't in the least. i suppose it could if i wanted to figure out exactly how much energy that IS (one supernova gives off somewhere around 5x10 to the 45th power joules - does that help you? that's a 5 followed by 45 zeroes and is about 50x as much energy as our sun will put out in its 10 billion year lifetime,) but that STILL doesn't help because last i checked, characters powers aren't denoted in joules. how many joules in galactus's blasts? in the surfer's as he destroys a world? seem ridiculous? that's because it is.
so back to my original question: how many suns does galactus get? how about juggernaut or his force field? thor's hammer? what about tyrant at full strength - does he have more or less than 1000 000 suns inside him? supes recharges at the sun so he somehow has the power of one sun exploding inside him?? supes 1000 000 blows suns out with a breath so clearly he has waayyy more power than just one sun. how many does he get? glads can rip suns to pieces with his hands. how many suns does he get?
you're not getting the frame of reference thing, are you? 1000 000 suns. whoop-dee-friggin'-do!
holy crap - IT IS MEANINGLESS!! you have no frame of comparison - ie - no one else's powers are measured in 'exploding suns'!! geez, it is not that friggin' hard!! and is that when he is at FULL power? if he's not fighting all out, how many suns does he use? 5000? 10 000? why am i harping on this?
because you insist this meaningless drivel '1000 000 exploding suns inside him' translates into sentry being more powerful than prime. that is utter nonsense in the grandest sense of the word. he may BE more powerful, but you need to go on what you see. i think i've done a halfway decent job explaining why i think prime could be viewed as being around at least average galactus level (see above argument re: solaris) you have nothing for sentry other than 'power of a million suns'. GRRREEEAAAATTTTTTTT argument . . .
anywho, i'm done with this thread. pm me if you come up with a real argument, then i'd be happy to continue debating these 2. as it stands, let's move on to our next debate.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<Sentry = power of 1 million suns hope that helps (it’s energy)>>actually it doesn't in the least. i suppose it could if i wanted to figure out exactly how much energy that IS (one supernova gives off somewhere around 5x10 to the 45th power joules - does that help you? that's a 5 followed by 45 zeroes and is about 50x as much energy as our sun will put out in its 10 billion year lifetime,) but that STILL doesn't help because last i checked, characters powers aren't denoted in joules. how many joules in galactus's blasts? in the surfer's as he destroys a world? seem ridiculous? that's because it is.
so back to my original question: how many suns does galactus get? how about juggernaut or his force field? thor's hammer? what about tyrant at full strength - does he have more or less than 1000 000 suns inside him? supes recharges at the sun so he somehow has the power of one sun exploding inside him?? supes 1000 000 blows suns out with a breath so clearly he has waayyy more power than just one sun. how many does he get? glads can rip suns to pieces with his hands. how many suns does he get?
you're not getting the frame of reference thing, are you? 1000 000 suns. whoop-dee-friggin'-do!
holy crap - IT IS MEANINGLESS!! you have no frame of comparison - ie - no one else's powers are measured in 'exploding suns'!! geez, it is not that friggin' hard!! and is that when he is at FULL power? if he's not fighting all out, how many suns does he use? 5000? 10 000? why am i harping on this?
because you insist this meaningless drivel '1000 000 exploding suns inside him' translates into sentry being more powerful than prime. that is utter nonsense in the grandest sense of the word. he may BE more powerful, but you need to go on what you see. i think i've done a halfway decent job explaining why i think prime could be viewed as being around at least average galactus level (see above argument re: solaris) you have nothing for sentry other than 'power of a million suns'. GRRREEEAAAATTTTTTTT argument . . .
anywho, i'm done with this thread. pm me if you come up with a real argument, then i'd be happy to continue debating these 2. as it stands, let's move on to our next debate.
😉 And your point is?
1 million suns = More powerful than 1 sun
Logic that's all
And no we can't compare other with Sun, because there powers are not based on that.
I get what you are saying leo
Powers Million suns means a lot of power since you average hero can’t even destroy worlds.
After all he contained the void
Since both Superman and Sentry are Sun lovers I tough I would put that in
So if it’s about superman it’s fine , but for sentry it’s stupid
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Originally posted by ImmortalOne
CC, withdrawal ??Skizo >> Who the hell do you think you are opposing all the given facts, and marching in this thread just to say PRIME STILL WINS, CHEERS MATE ??
Cheers my a** !!! .... Sorry got a bit carried away back there !!
Opposing all the given facts??? What facts? One fact has been presented One Million stars Versus one star thats all. Nobody gave feats of what Sentry has done. Everything thats been said is merely speculative. SO who do I think i am? I think Im a person who likes to stir up debate considering everyone is on the sentry bandwagon. and if that angers you then so be it. Thats your problem. The least you could have done is handle it with delicacy. and what is this thread all about? im supposed to tell you who I (Emphsis on I) think would win. so whats your beef?