Yoda and Obi-Wan versus Kreia and Malak

Started by Darth Windu2 pages

That was . . . . confusing. Not to mention you make it sound way too easy. Also, what was Yoda doing when Obi-Wan fought Malak?

nothing he was waitong to see how the battle would turn out befor fighting anyway i didnt liek the endind i wrote it was crappy but it ended i was gonna make it a longer fight but i was in a mood with life

What the hell are you people talking about? Sith will win without any trouble at all.

Did you even see how Dooku took care of Obi Wan? He just used the force and threw him away. Malak is far more powerful and would take Obi out in no time. Maybe a lightsaber duel would take time, but Malak would just overwelm him with the force in a minute or so.

Then he would walk towards Yoda who is using the force to block Kreia's lightning and he would cut Yoda his head off.

you think its that easy i thought malak would beat obi and kriea would beat yoda after a long fight

Yeah I think its that easy. With Obi Wan you shouldn't start a lightsaber fight, he's great with a lightsaber but if you are far more powerful then him in the force then you should decide the battle with the force.

Not a lot of people could do that, but Malak sure as hell could and he probably would.

Originally posted by Fishy
[B]What the hell are you people talking about? Sith will win without any trouble at all.

I doubt it. Kreia lost to the Exile. And the Exile is nowhere near Yoda when it comes to force knowledge, force powers or lightsaber combat (as long as you don't hit level 50 in KOTOR II). He will pretty likely kill Kreia.


Did you even see how Dooku took care of Obi Wan? He just used the force and threw him away. Malak is far more powerful and would take Obi out in no time. Maybe a lightsaber duel would take time, but Malak would just overwelm him with the force in a minute or so.

Now come on. Obi-Wan on his own is better than Obi-Wan in a team vs one other opponent. I don't know why but just take a look at the following situations:

- Obi-Wan + Anakin vs Dooku (Obi-Wan is weak)
- Obi-Wan + Anakin vs Killerdroids + Grievous (Obi clearly stronger than vs Dooku)
- Obi-Wan vs Grievous (same)
- Obi-Wan + Yoda vs Clone Troopers (same)
- Obi-Wan vs Anakin

Especially look at the fight vs Anakin. That lasted more than 10 minutes. And this is a Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth Vader) that wasted serveral Jedi including Cin Drallig quite easily. I'm pretty sure he can hold Malak back for a long time at least as long as Yoda needs to finish Kreia. Then it's Obi-Wan + Yoda vs Malak maybe Obi-Wan gets killed in that fight but still Jedi win in the end.

The reason why he looked weaker against Dooku is because Dooku is a hell of a lot better then anybody else he faced. Dooku was leagues above him without any doubt, if somebody else would have had Anakin his power he would have lost too. You can say it was because of a team but Obi himself admitted in the movies that he fought better with Anakin then without. They were a good team. In LOE Dooku describes the two as a well oiled team worth facing.

He still owned their asses. Obi is good but Dooku was just a lot better, and so is Malak he would own Obi Wan in no time.

Fishy's right. Obi-Wan was clearly outclassed by Dooku. And comparing Anakin to any Dark Lord of the Sith in ROTS is a disgrace to the other Sith; he is clearly not using knowledge of the Sith or the dark side even to its fullest. He is simply an angry Jedi gone bad. And even though Dooku lost to Anakin, he still is the superior fighter, just as Luke beat Vader but Vader was in fact superior.

And as for Kreia losing to the Exile, I doubt she would train someone for what must have been weeks or even a few months, give them immense knowledge and prod them on to a higher path, only to actively try and strike them down. I'll argue that Kreia never meant to destroy the Exile, only perhaps to end herself and test the Exile's resolve. Note that she shows the utmost concern for his/her past and resolving it. This culminates in the duel at the heart of Malachor. Kreia was no true Sith, just as she was no true Jedi.

Janus I like you even more now, Darkstar and I talked about that exact same thing some time ago. Both of us found it strange that Kreia would just lose from the Exile for several reasons, good to know we are not the only's that feel that way.

well, it's only sensible that she lost for a damn reason. Otherwise, she could pwn the Exile at any time.