Actually we know he can't reach Anakin's full potential...he has a midi-clorian count way above 20,000 and even Qui-Gon said "No Jedi has."
Revan's strong, but I don't think he gets anymore powerful than what he did in KOTOR II (Just my opinion: He may have more memories come back, but still it doens't match Anakins will)...Now if a KOTOR III comes along it might prove me wrong. But Anakin destroys them and having Luke there...well the two Jedi win.
Originally posted by Darth Plagues
Actually we know he can't reach Anakin's full potential...he has a midi-clorian count way above 20,000 and even Qui-Gon said "No Jedi has."Revan's strong, but I don't think he gets anymore powerful than what he did in KOTOR II (Just my opinion: He may have more memories come back, but still it doens't match Anakins will)...Now if a KOTOR III comes along it might prove me wrong. But Anakin destroys them and having Luke there...well the two Jedi win.
No Jedi has, and he only knows it of the recent Jedi.
I agree that Anakin could probably be more powerful then Revan fact is we don't know. Fact is you can argue about it all you want but all I have to say is I don't agree or I don't think the difference is that big and bam you don't have anything to argue with anymore.
Thats the problem with people like that, nothing to go on.
based on what i've seen,read and heard GL say, I think the Skywalkers would win after an excruciating battle.
Anakin would be more powerful than anyone and the only person who could come close is NJO Luke (which, IMHO is what full potential anakin would have been)
the skywalkers are destined to be the best and that's all there is to it
IMHO
Originally posted by Darth_Nefarus
based on what i've seen,read and heard GL say, I think the Skywalkers would win after an excruciating battle.Anakin would be more powerful than anyone and the only person who could come close is NJO Luke (which, IMHO is what full potential anakin would have been)
the skywalkers are destined to be the best and that's all there is to it
IMHO
I agree with you on that statement Nefarus. But I think NJO Luke and full developed Anakin are both just slightly stronger than Revan and Ragnos.
As I said:
Anakin can take Ragnos alone
NJO Luke can take Revan alone
But you still have Kun here meaning 3 Sith vs 2 Skywalkers. And it doesn't matter where you put him. Anakin can't take Ragnos + Revan / Revan + Exar or Ragnos + Exar and Luke can't do it either so one of the Skywalkers would die quite quickly and you end with all 3 Sith vs the other one.
Well, considering GL hasn't quoted on the powers of anyone outside of the Skywalkers and Sidious, it's kinda open, idn't it?
Now, let's get some things straight:
-GL has not said ever or even hinted at that a full potential Skywalker could destroy all, no sweat. He has also never said that an ancient Sith would be no match for such a creation.
-GL has never elaborated on EU. And he most likely never will, so Skywalker fans will think they win and EU fans will think Ragnos wins. Just leave it at that.
-GL's focus is the movies, which is just the story of good versus evil and the Skywalker family. Keep that in mind. He has given EU creators at Lucasarts and such free reign so long as they don't directly contradict the movies. This is why NJO Luke even exists. If you go by GL, he might even say that NJO Luke is overpowered and not what he had envisioned.
-Potential is nice, but unless the Skywalkers were well-versed in Sith lore for a century or more, I would say Ragnos would still be a ridiculously hard fight. I mean, Yoda is older than Sidious by easily 9 times and yet the Sith knowledge made them almost even. Think about that.
Quote of Fishy: "No Jedi has, and he only knows it of the recent Jedi."
How do you know? Qui-Gon I'm sure knows about the Jedi history and would know if someone's midi-clorian count was higher than 20,000.
Darth Revan: Strong because of his knowledge.
Exar Kun: He's just strong.
Marka Ragnos: He possibly doesn't have a weapon that can block a lightsaber blade...he might have that Sith Scepter sword thing, but isn't that from someone else? Anyway...
Marka Ragnos gets owned in the first little bit of the battle by Anakin or Luke and then its two against two. Luke vs. Exar and Revan vs. Anakin...The Jedi win. Even vice versa the Jedi win.
Ragnos gets owned in the first bit of the fight? 😆 thats just stupid, he won't get owned easily if at all.
And how do I know? A lot of knowledge was lost, Midiclorians were never even mentioned in the EU, and never during those times so we don't know. QGJ would have no way of knowing about them, and then they are still Sith not Jedi. He does not say ever either. And Ragnos his weapon can block lightsaber attacks.
(Rebuttal with JanusEdit)
Quote of Fishy: "No Jedi has, and he only knows it of the recent Jedi."
How do you know? Qui-Gon I'm sure knows about the Jedi history and would know if someone's midi-clorian count was higher than 20,000. (You don't know for sure. And you can't prove or disprove it at this point.)
Darth Revan: Strong because of his knowledge. (Soley? We already know you are biased against Revan... Could you perhaps prove up and show us how he is weaker?)
Exar Kun: He's just strong. (Only a Sith deals in absolutely. Exar Kun is strong, yes. But he is much more than that. He has slain Jedi masters on par with Yoda.)
Marka Ragnos: He possibly doesn't have a weapon that can block a lightsaber blade...he might have that Sith Scepter sword thing, but isn't that from someone else? Anyway... (You obviously don't know enough here to make a judgment. Perhaps none of us do. But Ragnos used a blade that was woven together with Sith magics and would be able to withstand lightsabers as did the Sith blades of Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh)
Marka Ragnos gets owned in the first little bit of the battle by Anakin or Luke and then its two against two. Luke vs. Exar and Revan vs. Anakin...The Jedi win. Even vice versa the Jedi win.
its true that QGJ could possibly (small chance) know the highest midi-chlorian ratings of all the really powerful jedi but he (for definate) wouldnt know the ones of the sith, but i i think that anikin (full potential) would hold revan and ragnos while luke finished off exar then it'd be and even fight one on one
NJO luke vs revan-luke (after long battle)
anakin(full potential) vs ragnos-anaikin, even tho he'd be tired from the previous duel he would still be ridiculously powerful at his full potential and i think he could take him and even if he doesn't its NJO luke vs ragnos- i reckon luke
Plagues. . . no one in the Star Wars Universe can "own" Ragnos. I agree, He might be defeated by Anakin, but likely not Luke. Possible, but doubtful. Ragnos would tire out Anakin severly even if he did lose. Of course, this is speculation about Ragnos' power, but it is most likely true.
Revan's main power comes from his knowledge yes, but he still must have been very powerful in the Force. Definetely not on Anakin or Luke's level, but powerful nonetheless. And even though his raw power is not on Luke's level, his superior knowledge of Force techniques and hidden powers would almost make up for that disadvantage.
And Exar Kun is powerful in both terms of potential and knowledge. He re-established the Sith, if I am correct, and drove the Republic to its knees. He also, as was said, defeated Jedi could give Yoda trouble, if not an outright fight for his life.
Marka Ragnos attacks Anakin, and Exar Kun and Revan attack Luke. Luke puts up a pretty good fight, but falls in a couple of minutes. Then, the two Sith assist the ailing Ragnos, defeating Anakin. Now, if you replaced Kun with Ulic, or gave the Jedi Yoda or a full power Jacen, they might put a better fight. But as it is, I don't think so.