Uber Powerful Flash Runs The Gauntlet

Originally posted by masterbruce
Comparing power cosmic and speedforce is like comparing apples and oranges

speedforce is almost a reality shifting force whereas power cosmic is just your average energy force multiplied a couple folds

Power Cosmic is fairly reality manipulating. . though it has a more scientific explination . . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
They all have a variety of options.

So are we stating that Juggy is a stalmate or a victory for flash?

I say stalemate..but that's why I don't like having juggernaut in these versus threads, because he's pretty much stalemate with anyone

Yeah but Flash could go back in time before the scream and stop him plus he could basically freeze Black Bolt still but i think Juggs is a stalemate. But Flash can beat Glads and SS

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're kidding right?

Power Cosmic is fairly reality manipulating. . though it has a more scientific explination . . .

power cosmic, according to my understanding is able to manipulate matter and energy

speedforce on the other hand can manipulate the speed time continuum

so I think speedforce is more powerful

So there's no sending him to space then?

Probably not with the force field up and moving.

Originally posted by masterbruce
power cosmic, according to my understanding is able to manipulate matter and energy

speedforce on the other hand can manipulate the speed time continuum

so I think speedforce is more powerful

"Speed time continuim"?

Everything is composed of energy. Everything.

So if a user of the speed force is turned into an apple. . . Of course that's the trick isn't it?

I'll give the stalemate to Juggy, but I believe that Flash beats both SS and Glads. Probably everyone but Juggs actually.

Originally posted by newjak86
Probably not with the force field up and moving.

could he project it in time though?

Can't Flash go back in time and kill all these people when they were two years old?

Except Tyrant and Ultron. They were major baddies when they were one hour old. Thanos too, maybe.

Jugg's powers are mystical in nature which is one of the reasons he can do things that can't be explained. So when his powers state something there is almost nothing outside of another magical force that can effect it.

but he can't set up the field before flash gets to him, he isn't bright either..

Ummmmmmmmmmmm....no

Flash ain't beating Gladiator or Surfer. Why? Because they are faster, and they'd each kill him with one hit.

Juggy would kill him too, once Flash gets into Jug's shield, Flash will slow down to the point where Jugs can grab him. His shield stops momentum.

His shield is always up.

It is, I thought the thread starter didn't mention that...

Actually the shield isn't always up it only comes up when Juggs just doesn't want to deal with poeple so he puts it up so people can't get close to him.

It's up unless the writer intentionally leaves it off. Jug has been caught off gaurd by some humans who tried shooting him with a plasma gun, the blasts bounced off his shield.

Strange's shield is the same, it's always on but something the writers forget or leave it out so the story arc can move forward.

Juggs?

Flash could take a spoon and dig Juggs into a hole a mile deep and then bury him again, before Juggs could move. Wouldn't kill him but he's out of the game.

Glad's and Surfer?

Has anyone got pictures of these two moving faster than light within an atmosphere? I don't believe they can. I believe that something with the mass of a molecule or a grain of dust floating on the wind, travelling at a relative speed of light towards them, would blow them apart upon impact.

Flash is protected from such encounters via the wonderful giftings of the speedforce! 😄 On the surface of a planet, in terms of speed, Flash is King.

Yeah I know like when he fought Spidey when Juggs was trying to go get Madam Web he put it up because he didn't want to mess with Spidey at the time.

Surfer or Glads destroy the earth, Flash dies. Gladiator has shattered planets before so has Surfer. Flash will never beat these two.