Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Think about it. All of this evidence supports my theory. Thrawn is without a shadow of a doubt tactically superior to Darth Revan.
You still think I'm a fanboy and I still think you're a noob. Neither is superior like you said and this competition could go either way. I lean towards Revan and you lean towards Thrawn. But in your posts you made up stuff like Revan's army had way more forces than their enemy (the Republic actually had about twice the army) and you said that Thrawn had far fewer forces when his army was about equal with the Republics. Revan was up against battle meditation which is the only reason his sith army hadn't conquered the galaxy and Thrawn used battle meditation for his side. You also didn't bother to respond to any of these points.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
You're entitled to your opinion, Emperor Revan. But again, you seem to be quite irrational and arrogant at times. Do remember. Darth Revan may be cool. But no one needs to make him out to be more than he is. The same for NJO Luke. They are both amazingly powerful. But it is difficult to compare them to others. Like Revan vs Sidious. You can't compare to eachother how they fight.There really is no proof to establish which Sith Lord or Jedi can best eachother unless they truly fight. You see, in the versus mode, it is all one-hundred percent fan speculation. Even on my part. Unless they fight - and we see it - we truly do not know.
There is a difference between drawing rational conclusions and fan speculation. Speculation makes no distinction between what could be and what somebody assumes could be, nor off of what information they use. I could speculate that I could become a librarian if I buy a mayor dinner. However, that might work against me, or not at all, or the mayor may have no hand in me becoming a librarian. That's wild speculation.
However, if I were to have information that the mayor is fond of hospitality and is hiring out the position, and I buy him a fine dinner or better, make him one, I can more accurately speculate that I would get the job. It's still, I suppose, an assumption in a nice coating. But it is valid as an argument, if not entirely sound.
Now, correct me if I didn't already say this: we can't draw comparisons between these two generals with what we have. Hell, military historians have TONS of information on Rommel and Patton, and yet experts cannot draw comparisons because their situations, logistics, personalities, etc. were so dramatically different. To find out who is truly better, we would need a controlled environment with exact supplies, men and whatnot for each general.
And even then you could argue that, because of chaos theory, no two campaigns will ever be alike even enough for direct comparisons, so that too is sketchy at best.
They won't be, there have been a lot of simulations about certain generals, but the battles always go differently. Things change people change they see things they did not see before. You can never really know which general is better, you just can not. Even if those two would have faced each other we wouldn't know for sure which one is better.
Africanus for instance once beat Hanibal Barca. Is he better? We don't know.
Battle Meditation? Joruus C'Boath had Battle Meditation, but he openly abandoned Thrawn on several occasions to concentrate on capturing Luke and Leia. C'Boath often worked against Thrawn because he felt Thrawn was trying to takeover *his* Empire.
So yes indeed. Thrawn had Battle Meditation at his disposal. But C'Boath wasn't cooperative but only half the time.
And Revan's men were much more trained than the Republic, hence his victories. Thrawn openly admitted the Republic's were much more trained and motivated.
Wrong, against the Mandelorians Revan his man were untrained and a bunch of retards that did not even know how to move. Revan turned that around and made them face the Mandelorians. Those guys were trained, those guys were great. Revan changed the tie of a war against a far superior enemy. He turned it around when he had fewer troops, they weren't trained as well, the morale was a lot lower and all that crap.
I think many people that are against Revan here, forget about that and just look at his war with the Star Forge. The Star Forge indeed made it really easy, but he had to go through a lot first.