Thor vs. X-man

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
No...
Thor would destroy him.

Hm.. Seems that way.

But X-Man is still a heavy hitter. He can seriously pump up his strength and durability.
But as far as the force of his blast. He has shown to be capable of wiping out cities and continents.
One of his abilities that are often dismissed…well phasing or going intangible.

I could post the scans of the significant abilities that would show why he should be able to stay in the game against other Heavy Hitters. With out the use of Telepathy or BFR.

Originally posted by id369
Hm.. Seems that way.

But X-Man is still a heavy hitter. He can seriously pump up his strength and durability.
But as far as the force of his blast. He has shown to be capable of wiping out cities and continents.
One of his abilities that are often dismissed…well phasing or going intangible.

I could post the scans of the significant abilities that would show why he should be able to stay in the game against other Heavy Hitters. With out the use of Telepathy or BFR.

Hanging with heavy hitters does not warrant the majority against Thor.

welll let me get this right telekentic is kinetic energy been moved by the mind. now we have a hammer that can absorb energy. TK as established is movement of kinetic energy by the mind. thus the hammer absorbs any telekentic assault put towards it.

as for a telepathic mindblast, this would be highly unlikley, as trained telepathic minds such as xaviers has a hard time makeing a passivle lock onto the thor, thus an aggresive attack by a poorly trained telepath is not going to work

Originally posted by llagrok
Hanging with heavy hitters does not warrant the majority against Thor.

Most of the time, Psychics would try to avoid a strait up fight, and play keep away due to their fragility.
This isn’t really the case for Shaman X-Man.

Originally posted by id369
I am aware of that. I am changing the course of this discussion.
Since its one of the few factors that sets him apart from other high level Psychics.

Most of the time, Psychics would try to avoid a strait up fight, and play keep away due to their fragility.
This isn’t really the case for Shaman X-Man.

Trust me, I'm fully aware of how strong X-man is.

However, both of your initial tactics completely erased any trace of CIS, which I think is a tad wrong. There are few characters who are weighed down by CIS more than Thor.

Originally posted by rougeredmage
welll let me get this right telekentic is kinetic energy been moved by the mind. now we have a hammer that can absorb energy. TK as established is movement of kinetic energy by the mind. thus the hammer absorbs any telekentic assault put towards it.

Kinetics and Telekinesis are not necessarily the same thing. Similar though.

Originally posted by rougeredmage

as for a telepathic mindblast, this would be highly unlikley, as trained telepathic minds such as xaviers has a hard time makeing a passivle lock onto the thor, thus an aggresive attack by a poorly trained telepath is not going to work

Originally posted by id369
As Shaman, Nate telepathy out guns just about anything Xavier has shown us.

I think it always did

Originally posted by llagrok
Consistency 2k.

He's immune to the Strange's machine mind blast in the next issue -.-

No where did I see a mind blast attempted on Thor... 😐

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
So anyway, I had some time to spare, and peaked through Avengers 221.

No where did I see a mind blast attempted on Thor... 😐

Art thou certain of this?

It's in the issue where Toad uses the Stranger's machine, that releases this huge mind blast.

This is the issue...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Avengers221.jpg

And here in a page of the book, shows that last issue, Moondragon was involved. Other than that, Moondragon wasn't in the comic, and Toad was nowhere to be found.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Avengers221p02.jpg

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
This is the issue...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Avengers221.jpg

And here in a page of the book, shows that last issue, Moondragon was involved. Other than that, Moondragon wasn't in the comic, and Toad was nowhere to be found.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Avengers221p02.jpg

Than disregard what I said, until I find the right comic.

Good match-up, I see Thor eventually winning.

with the changes in nate, any changes in thought? this was always a match i thought was a good one.

Outside of trying to subdue Thor telepathically, the plank time thing is the only other way I see Nate winning, but I don't remember if he could cause harm when in that state. Wonder if Mjolnir's time manipulation would counter it.

Originally posted by llagrok
Mjolnir can absorb ANYthing, so absorbing astral projections shouldn't be a problem. Mjolnir has also allowed Thor to see through any form of illusion.

Also, the Nate Grey Thor is fighting here seems to be quite different from the one in the comics. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Nate about to be killed by someone who was unaffected by mutant powers? That's like Hal being beaten by a yellow man with no other powers to speak of.

I've never seen him use his little plane shift tactic in combat either. Just like Thor, Nate seems to be quite fond of simply trying to bash his opponents down. Isn't that what he tried to do when fighting Holocaust and the Hulk?

Because if we're completely removing CIS here, I don't think Thor would have any problems taking care of Nate.

His hammer is pretty messed up after a god blast, wouldn't be a good idea. He can still break secondary adamantium with regular blasts, should be more than enough to kill Nate.

I meant highly resistant.

Which he has proven to be.

It has absorbed a galaxy buster, so the limits are quite high.

If the question is whether Thor can drain Nate, I could see it happening. Nate's power level certainly won't be the problem. We've seen Mjolnir counter telepathic energy and illusions/projections for what it's worth.