Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
With one hit it wouldn't even matter.Did you read the whole thread?
Is this resurrect wolverine thread day?
Originally posted by LGodamus
I sure did sit and read the whole thread..and I am calling you on faulty logic , since you above all others are calling others to use logic. Whats good for the goose and all that. I just told you from personal experience that it does matter , even in one hit situations...if you want I can post why medically...since that is my profession.
I fight myself, good friend, over seas and everything. I can tell you about it all day and it wouldn't matter.
A 30000 force punch would do alot different type of concussive damage than a normal attack with proificiency.
With that in mind logan powers, wouldn't revive a ko', ko's are fast, its not the opinion of the one getting knocked out, its the one who knocked the person out.
Tissue damage can be in full condition and the person can still be unconscious, they don't necessarily "pop up" because of tissue damage being replaced.
And again, all knockouts aren't the same result, depends on WHAT knocked you out and where.
Let me understand something, do you think he can or cannot be knocked out?
I totally believe logan can be knocked cold as a mackerel, but not for the reasons you are using. Because knockouts do not work..medically speaking, the way you are describing. IF his healing factor were fast enough it could theoretically save him from knock out by making him recover fast enough that full unconsciousness never occurs, but I dont believe that lies within the scope of his abilities.
Furthermore, He is more likely to be knocked out due to the nature of his physicality if he is hit free standing , rather than with his head braced upon something...since you would need acceleration and the rapid stop at the end to cause that type of brain trauma...from injuries sustained with a braced head , as described in the original post , its not usually concussion that happens , but skull fracture which is nigh on impossible for the canadian runt.
Originally posted by LGodamus
I totally believe logan can be knocked cold as a mackerel, but not for the reasons you are using. Because knockouts do not work..medically speaking, the way you are describing. IF his healing factor were fast enough it could theoretically save him from knock out by making him recover fast enough that full unconsciousness never occurs, but I dont believe that lies within the scope of his abilities.
I disagreed with the previous, because they are stating that healing would work BEFORE the actual damage took place.
In consequence to what you are saying, YES, he would be in a state before fully unconsciousness, but keep in mind that IN fights, a knockout is when the opponent is rendered unable to think, respond, etc. for themselves, now TECHNICALLY speaking, there is a state, but I don't see logan coming back from that with this kind of force.
Try explaining that to them though.
Originally posted by LGodamus
Furthermore, He is more likely to be knocked out due to the nature of his physicality if he is hit free standing , rather than with his head braced upon something...since you would need acceleration and the rapid stop at the end to cause that type of brain trauma...from injuries sustained with a braced head , as described in the original post , its not usually concussion that happens , but skull fracture which is nigh on impossible for the canadian runt.
Understood, like inertia. But the material at hand, is VERY strong, and would only work against logan no different than his own head.
If it were something weaker yes, but at its strength, a character that took damage LIKE a human, would still be unconscious, thats too much for his physicality to handle.
Thanks for the discussion, you turned out knowledgeable and reasonable, and you went indepth with your points. And thanks for READING the thread, instead of attacking.
I get alittle "impatient" with the fanboys, its nature around here.
Even real world cage fighters will sometimes lose conscience during a fight and regain it before either the opponent or the judge realize it.
With a HF like his, I find it entirely plausible that he can take his brain rattling arround his head and recover in microseconds, his history of feats predominantly corroborates this view, no matter how implausible anyone thinks they are. If it's a single punch from each character in the list, then he can take it all the way to tyrant.
If these are single quick blasts, not a continuous energy roasting, then lightning and above should take him out for the count. He can survive more than that though.
Originally posted by 753
Even real world cage fighters will sometimes lose conscience during a fight and regain it before either the opponent or the judge realize it.
With a HF like his, I find it entirely plausible that he can take his brain rattling arround his head and recover in microseconds, his history of feats predominantly corroborates this view, no matter how implausible anyone thinks they are. If it's a single punch from each character in the list, then he can take it all the way to tyrant.If these are single quick blasts, not a continuous energy roasting, then lightning and above should take him out for the count. He can survive more than that though.
i concur.
regardless of what ppl want to happen and think should happen is not what the character is shown to repeatedly shown capable of doing...
a single punch aint going to take him out consistently and many would have their hands broken or sprained for their efforts.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
nah, things strength isnt high enough to ko him and if did it would a split second micro ko..
ehh..
Originally posted by Mshinu
ehh..
wolverine was weaken in that moment recovering from his earlier injury.. reed even sited it would be unlikely for thing to have accomplished that feat if not to prior circumstance.... pls dont try to misrepresent scans ur better then that.. 😮
any who logan's best feat was WWH and also his HF is not the same lvl as the one in that scan,, 😛
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
wolverine was weaken in that moment recovering from his earlier injury.. reed even sited it would be unlikely for thing to have accomplished that feat if not to prior circumstance.... pls dont try to misrepresent scans ur better then that.. 😮any who logan's best feat was WWH and also his HF is not the same lvl as the one in that scan,, 😛
I thought injuries from Thing only would last a split micro second? 😉
Anyway Wolvie`s showings vary from being knocked out by a thrown object from Daredevil to taking onslasught of 100+ ton punches without getting dizzy. Hard say exactly what it would take but I figure someone over class 30 has a shot at it.
Originally posted by Mshinu
I thought injuries from Thing only would last a split micro second? 😉Anyway Wolvie`s showings vary from being knocked out by a thrown object from Daredevil to taking onslasught of 100+ ton punches without getting dizzy. Hard say exactly what it would take but I figure someone over class 30 has a shot at it.
a ko recovery and what has bn shown more recently then the 80's
when did DD knock him out by throwing something at him?
and i hope ur factoring in circumstances and things that might have lowered his hf or taxed it out
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
when did DD knock him out by throwing something at him?and i hope ur factoring in circumstances and things that might have lowered his hf or taxed it out
I don`t remember the issue.. I think DD was sleeping and Wolvie sneaking around. DD woke up and threw some metal thing, a weight for weight lifting maybe, and hit him in the head. One of Logan`s lower showings for sure 😆
sigh.. enemy of the state.. i knew the issue you were referring to even though it was inaccurate.
DD slammed a weight on his head logan was stun and fell back onto a sword he was not ko'ed just knock back and trip on a sword... 😬
the hit to the head only loosen the mind control he was on also he was severely taxed and ran ragged by all the meta fights he had bn forced into and no sleep... he wasnt even close to a 100%
😐
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the hit to the head only loosen the mind control he was on also he was severely taxed and ran ragged by all the meta fights he had bn forced into and no sleep... he wasnt even close to a 100%😐
excuses, excuses 😛
But we can agree it does not show Wolvie at his best or even his average
