Politically Correctness Will Be The Downfall Of Freedom.

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Politically Correctness Will Be The Downfall Of Freedom.

Politically Correct
adj. Abbr. PC
(1) Of, relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as race, class, gender, and sexual orientation.
(2) Being overconcerned with being inoffensive, often to the exclusion of other matters.


"The declared rational of the tyranny of Political Correctness is to prevent people being offended; to compel everyone to avoid using words or behavior that may upset homosexuals, women, none-whites, the crippled, the mentally impaired, the fat or the ugly."

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PC Does Not Work.
* PC ideology does not work, it was never proven to work and never did work. It is the product of confused Leftists. Political Correctness strives for equality, but never achieves it. Equality can never be achieved when there is a double standard. White Eruopeans would be very much racist if they had their own television channel, beauty contest, or school scholarships. While people of other creeds are encouraged to promote and express their own cultures, and religion. This does not only relate to racial conflicts, If Toronto's heterosexuals would decide to have a 'straight parade' across the city it would be put down as a hate parade. We would be called bigots and rednecks. Yet is is fine for Gays and Lesbians to express their homosexuality all over the city. This is clearly assurd, the double standard that exists is a product of the PC disease.

* People of the Politically Correct philosophy believe in increasing a tolerance for a DIVERSITY of cultures, race, gender, ideology and alternate lifestyles. Political Correctness has become the only social and morally acceptable outlook. Anyone who disagrees with this philosophy is bigoted, biased, sexist, and/or closed-minded.

* DWEMs (Dead, White, European Males)—White guys are the PC movement’s equivalent of Satan. The PC crowd especially likes to go after fellows like Aristotle, Plato and Jefferson, who supposedly have managed to somehow become indirectly responsible for supporting all the racism, sexism, and oppression in the known world. Unfortunately, not all “people of color” realize this. For instance, when thousands of Chinese students died at Tiananmen Square in 1989 demanding democracy and freedom, they were quoting Thomas Jefferson and parading a model of the Statue of Liberty. The PC crowd thinks they should have been busy studying the writings of Marx and Lenin. (Marx and Lenin were white guys, too, but that’s beside the point.)
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Politically Correctness Threatens our Freedom.

*"Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety,deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Ben Franklin, 1759

* Freedom of speech is being totally threatened. Listen to Prof. Klatt's speech and you will understand that our society is rapidly changing to adapt the inanities of PC. Jokes about blacks, Fat people, women, could soon be illegal deemed as 'Hate Propaganda'. PC supporters want us to live in one big happy world embracing peoples cultural, sexual and religious differences, by celebrating their distinctiveness while treating them uniquely different?! Is it possible to understand PC thought?

* To attempt to point out the odious nature of Political Correctness is to restate the crucial importance of plain speaking, freedom of choice and freedom of speech; these are the communities safe-guards against the imposition of tyranny, indeed their absence is tyranny ( see "On Liberty", Chapter II, by J.S. Mill). Which is why any such restrictions on expression such as those invoked by the laws of libel, slander and public decency, are grave matters to be decided by common law methodology; not by the dictates of the mob.
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Political Correctness and it's connections to Communism and Censorship.

* Political Correctness remains just what it was intended to be: a sophisticated and dangerous form of censorship and oppression, imposed upon the citizenry with the ultimate goal of manipulating, brainwashing and destroying our society.

* Examples Of Denying Freedom Of Speech Evidence of this effect is amply demonstrated by the Soviets, who embraced Political Correctness with the Communist Revolution. The lumbering, pompous, impoverished, humorless monster this Nation became is now History. And it should be remembered that in 1914 Tsarist Russia was considered, at least by Edmund Cars, a French economist who then published a book about the subject, to be an economic giant set to overshadow Europe. The SBS television program "What Ever Happened To Russia" which was broadcast at 8.30 pm on 25th August 1994, detailed the terrible effect the Bolshevik's oppression had on their empire. And SBS further detailed the terrible crimes inflicted upon the Russians by their leader Stalin, in the series "Blood On The Snow" broadcast in March 1999.
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So basically, being PC is in direct confliction of what America and Freedom is about.

Political Correctness is rampent on most forums and most work places, and anyone who seems to think for themselves are either beaten down with vulgarities or called a racist/bigot.
Which is the definition of non-confrontational Censorship

What's your opinion?

Source: Individual.ca

I hate politically correct people A Midget is a Midget Not a Little Person, and A Retard is a Retard, Not a Mentally challenged person...

actually midgets and dwarfs tend to prefer to be called little people. if thats their wish then i think we should respect that.

as far as retarded people, i have yet to meet any that prefer to be called "mentally challenged" or even "developementally disabled"....or even gave a shit. so why bother with all the extra syllables? by the very noninsulting definition of the word 'retarded', its pretty straight forward.

my favorite is 'african american'. i remember when that trend was started (probably by uptight white upper class pricks) and black people seemed to just laugh it off. ask any black person which they would prefer to be called and chances are they're content with 'black'

so my opinion is that its up to the minority group of what they want to be called. if they wished to be titled as something we should respect and abide. if they dont give a shit, we shouldnt give a shit. simple.

I agree somewhat, I agree anyone should be allowed to want to be called whatever they want, but, by no means should I feel pressured into heeding to their wishes.

Bowing down to others wishes is a sign of weakness and dependant thought, which in my book is horrid.

Respect and abide....no.

Respect is earned, not by asking but by proving you are worth the title you want to be given. Abiding is out of the question.

I'm southern and black, so I want to be called King Lord God of All.
Will you respect and abide that?

Originally posted by long pig
Respect is earned, not by asking but by proving you are worth the title you want to be given. Abiding is out of the question.

no, its a sign of respect.

Q:What is repect when it's not earned?
A😛olitically Correctness.

Respect loses it's meaning when you give it to people who do not deserve it.

example of people who dont deserve respect?

and what i am saying is this. if you live somewhere, and the majority of the population decides that you and everyone like you shall be called "cracker b!tch". now, eventually you start getting irritated and say "we dont want to be called cracker b!tch anymore. they all refuse to abide because they feel you dont deserve any respect and that to respect your wishes would be simply bowing down and being punks. thats basically your mentallity. unless you can give me a decent example otherwise, i see this arguement as you whining that you cant be a bigot. well, you ARE free to be a bigot, just as long as you dont attack an individual with racist comments. so whats the complaint?

It varies form person to person, you intentionally or not, missunderstood it as I'm saying that it spans for entire groups, which it doesn't.

Example of someone who doesn't deserve my respect? Do you want pictures? I mean, this state is crawling with them. Whores, theives, racists PC people yada yada...goes on and on.

What's the complaint? Read the article.

Originally posted by SlipknoT
I hate politically correct people A Midget is a Midget Not a Little Person, and A Retard is a Retard, Not a Mentally challenged person...

Yeah, and if we remain PC we good old white boys is "melanin challenged" and old people are "chronologically challenged" and so on and so on...we spend enough money as it is now trying to not piss off this group or that group and we're no better for it so as far as I'm concerned, screw PC.

"Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety,deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin, 1759

Uh yeah...give up YOUR safety and YOUR security by letting everyone else do what they want w\o regard for others' fellings. Just let everyone walk all over us. Good one, Ben.

I'm kind of in a hurry, so my reply will be a bit short. But when i come back, i'll be sure to post again.

That stuff about PC being similar to communism is a load of bullshit. It's similar to the writings of Marx and Engel. THAT IS NOT COMMUNISM. It's called theoretical socialism. And guess what....it's all about equality for EVERYONE. That was the foundation for their theoretical socialism. However, it's called THEORETICAL, because never, NOWHERE in the world where it's been "appied" has it ever actually worked, and Marx and Engel most likely knew that would happen.

You can't FORCE people to be politically correct, or to see themselves as equal to everyone else. It has to be a decision made by the masses, and that's never gonna happen.

As for being politically correct, i have absolutely no problem with that, simply because of the way i was brought up. I was brought up to respect and be nice to everybody i met, regardless of gender, color of skin or place of origin. And so i AM. I have a best friend that is black, a very close friend that is a muslim, etc. etc.

The only problem i have with it are some sexual harrasment laws, simply because they can be bent and twisted by a smart enough woman. I'm not saying this happens (though it most likely does), but if you go out with a co-worker, then she gets bored with you and decides to break up with you, then you (deservingly) get a raise or a better position in the company, she can file a suit for sexual harrasment, just out of spite 😬

~wickerman~

Maybe if more people were polite rather then assholes PC wouldn't be a necessity. Stupid people can only get a response from people by saying stupid, obnoxious offensive things because their wit is too minuscule to think up something funny/witty/clever, as such, they'll continue to do so because that's teh only way they get any form of attention.

I don't like PC, but stupid people should be censored so I don't have to listen to them.

Yes, agree there, tact is an important part of social interactions. As is common courtesy and politeness. There is the whole "do unto others..." thing, which I personally think has more value then absurd PC.

I was talking to some of my friends one day and I used 'black' to refer to a black person, I was promptly called a racist bigot. Politically correct people suck ass through a straw.

There is a difference between:

1) Being pressured socially to use a preferred term for a group of people rather than a generic, non-offensive term

AND

2) Using blatant slander to refer to a group of people by using a term that is universally known as offensive.

Example: Calling a homeless person a "splib" or "parasite" is slander. Calling them "poor" or "homeless" is not.

Sorry if my example's not the best, but you should get the idea of what I'm trying to say.

Originally posted by botankus

Example: Calling a homeless person a "splib" or "parasite" is slander. Calling them "poor" or "homeless" is not.

Sorry if my example's not the best, but you should get the idea of what I'm trying to say.

another example to suit my point. find me one single homeless person who is offended by the term "bum" or "hobo". just one. no, there isnt because they dont give a shit. they have bigger concerns than PC, mainly food and shelter....you know....not dying.

thats another case where PC terms have been created by uptight obnoxious assclowns who seem to think they're able to empathise with homeless people in any way. same for 'african american. black people dont give a hit about the term, just that they are treated with respect and as equals.

PC is usually spawned by people who claim to feel the pain of others and that it can all be cured by making a new word. george carlin does a great bit on this.

but like i said, if a particular group finds offence (not an individual but a majority of that group) in a term, then i think their wishes should be respected. is it that difficult to change a term to make them feel accepted and respected? is that really the equivalent to pissing on the constitution and burning a flag? looks like there's obnoxious drama queens on both sides of the issue.

Originally posted by PVS
another example to suit my point. find me one single homeless person who is offended by the term "bum" or "hobo".

Not this guy...

Another thing is that it seems any noble aspirations PC might have once had, like stopping racism and so forth, has been usurped because of this modern age of litigation, when a person can decide they are insulted by nearly anything, and can thus sue. Alot of examples then of PC I have seen of late haven't been about protecting people who need it, but rather of governments, schools, businesses and so forth covering their behinds and applying bizarre and oft absurd logic to things in a way that will make them avoid liability. It kind of loses meaning after a while as it becomes a joke, or down right oppressive in it's own way.

here's what i find very dangerous about PC.
it seems that bigots and racists now use PC to their advantage.
they preach racist hateful shit, but use catch phrases like "not ALL..."

this way they can say: "muslems are terrorists!! (not ALL muslems mind you)"

so, with their PC disclaimer, they lie about what they truly believe. it enables them to mask their ignorance, but yet the fear, ignorance, and hate is still there, covered up by a disclaimer. if this is pointed out, they will say something like "lets call a spade a spade! we cant afford to be PC with this situation"....so basically many use PC as a selective tool. one which they may use to preach hate with a meaningless disclaimer tag, and then accuse others of bullshitting with PC at the same time.

i see this technique used constantly, in day to day life and on this forum.
PC is simply becoming a tool which bigots use to manipulate their words to have a double meaning, speaking to those who harbor the same hate, but disclaiming to avoid attacks from those who would call them on their bigotry.

Originally posted by PVS
i see this technique used constantly, in day to day life and on this forum.

At least I'm not a wop.

Originally posted by PVS
here's what i find very dangerous about PC.
it seems that bigots and racists now use PC to their advantage.
they preach racist hateful shit, but use catch phrases like "not ALL..."

this way they can say: "muslems are terrorists!! (not ALL muslems mind you)"

so, with their PC disclaimer, they lie about what they truly believe. it enables them to mask their ignorance, but yet the fear, ignorance, and hate is still there, covered up by a disclaimer.

But that's saying that everyone is a latent racist, because this implies that we all go around saying one thing and meaning another.

And granted there are some who DO, but yet there are some who can distinguish between normal and extremist actions and apply that to the everyday rationale that not everyone within a race or group is indeed a terrorist or an extremist. So while some have that built in disclaimer, there are yet many who don't.