"when have you ever seen the average New God lifting 60 tons? To be honnest its a pretty irrelevent point, but ill stick with it."
The reason why i put regular New Gods over Asgardians its because they seem to have more inate abilities. I for myself dont know how much can each race bench or not. Long Pigs guess its good as any other.
As long no one starts saying theyr all class 100 😄
"Actually the New Gods are all over three-hundred feet tall. The Boom Tube compresses their sizes to fit the dimension they travel in. Vice Versa with those who travel to the New Gods realm. Thus while in miniture form their powers are greatly dimenished."
Is this some Ironic Humour thing i just don't get, If so sorry Dude. If not can you give some more details because its sounds kinda Kewlllll 😎
Originally posted by Draco69
The world they live in is simply much larger than the realm that Superman or Batman live in.If you guys want proof go read the Kirby era of the New Gods. Or more recently Grant Morrison's JLA.
Wonder World anyone?
I love Grant Morrisons stuff how recent was his run on the J.L.A?
Where you been anyway Draco?
Originally posted by Draco69
Work. Work. And more work. My internship started up slow....than kicked up to high gear in less than a day. 18 hour shifts. Agh.This my ONLY day off for at least two weeks. I can't WAIT to go back to school. 🙁
Sorry to hear that, but its all worth it in the end though. So you must be at uni at the moment? When was GM'S run on J.L.A?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Sorry to hear that, but its all worth it in the end though. So you must be at uni at the moment? When was GM'S run on J.L.A?
Thanks. Yep in terms of dinero, I am making alot.
I am not in college at the moment. I will be in one month.
In the 90's. The best run for the JLA. And probably the last.
"Or more recently Grant Morrison's JLA.
Wonder World anyone?"
Ive read the JLA where i think Wonder World make an appearnce. Is the one with the philospers stone, where Dakseid takes over the world. Flash, Kyle and Aquaman go on a interdimensional holiday and they end up at this place where every thing is Fricking big. Is that place Wonder World?
<<I can't remember, maybe someone can call me on this but the New Gods are called the "New Gods" because they overthrew the old gods, which I think were Asgardians.(DC Asgardians)>>
calling! calling! hehehh. just kidding long. actually, according to their history as described in COSMIC ODYSSEY, and told by highfather, the new gods were the remnants of an ancient, highly evolved civilization that destroyed themselves almost completely while unleashing the anti-life equation in a war they waged because they arrogantly thought themselves the most evolutionarily advanced race in the universe. the anit-life wiped out hundreds of star systems but before it could destroy the universe it vanished (anti-life can't exist in our universe, apparently). in the wake of its destruction, 2 worlds revolving around a single star were left - new genesis and apokolips. both worlds (while once advanced) were hurled back to the stone ages and evolved differently - ng was peaceful, apok warring. both were also hurled from the universe by the anti-life and seperated from us. hence they live in the 'fourth world'. they are not really 'gods'. they developed their abilities because apparently the fourth world is nearer to the source which they studied and from which all their powers come. they are really only an advanced civilization but they have come to possess extraordinary tech and powers.
at least that is starlin's idea of their origin. there is mention of the norse gods though, long, and someone mentioned thor in a story and that of course is true. there were however, at least FIVE other possible origins, including one that says the worlds were one at some distant past. simply depends on who you choose to believe, or which writer you favor. kirby himself never wrote the cannonical origin, so others have taken it upon themselves to . . . dabble in the fourth world.
now, could they (any versions!) take the asgardians? i'll say no and the main reason is because the sheer number of asgardians is MUCH greater than the sheer number of new gods. there are roughly 200 new gods (and that includes many of the lesser ones and the ones that have rarely made appearances) while the legions of asgardians number in the thousands. if darkseid's parademons are included, then odin could summon all the dead of hel.
i think this boils down to numbers, rather than power.
"<<I can't remember, maybe someone can call me on this but the New Gods are called the "New Gods" because they overthrew the old gods, which I think were Asgardians.(DC Asgardians)>>
calling! calling! hehehh. just kidding long. actually, according to their history as described in COSMIC ODYSSEY, and told by highfather, the new gods were the remnants of an ancient, highly evolved civilization that destroyed themselves almost completely while unleashing the anti-life equation in a war they waged because they arrogantly thought themselves the most evolutionarily advanced race in the universe. the anit-life wiped out hundreds of star systems but before it could destroy the universe it vanished (anti-life can't exist in our universe, apparently). in the wake of its destruction, 2 worlds revolving around a single star were left - new genesis and apokolips. both worlds (while once advanced) were hurled back to the stone ages and evolved differently - ng was peaceful, apok warring. both were also hurled from the universe by the anti-life and seperated from us. hence they live in the 'fourth world'. they are not really 'gods'. they developed their abilities because apparently the fourth world is nearer to the source which they studied and from which all their powers come. they are really only an advanced civilization but they have come to possess extraordinary tech and powers.
at least that is starlin's idea of their origin. there is mention of the norse gods though, long, and someone mentioned thor in a story and that of course is true. there were however, at least FIVE other possible origins, including one that says the worlds were one at some distant past. simply depends on who you choose to believe, or which writer you favor. kirby himself never wrote the cannonical origin, so others have taken it upon themselves to . . . dabble in the fourth world.
now, could they (any versions!) take the asgardians? i'll say no and the main reason is because the sheer number of asgardians is MUCH greater than the sheer number of new gods. there are roughly 200 new gods (and that includes many of the lesser ones and the ones that have rarely made appearances) while the legions of asgardians number in the thousands. if darkseid's parademons are included, then odin could summon all the dead of hel.
i think this boils down to numbers, rather than power."
Bravo, Bravo
So everyone Apokolips and New Genesis is the size of the Super heroes on Wonder World?
Is it official that they loose much of their strength when they travel from one Dimension to another?
And why do ailens grow when they travel to War World? Could someone like superman gain a strength increase when they are made bigger?
Was the story i was referring to published during the Grant Morrison's run ?
Sorry that it is million Question time 😉
Originally posted by yahmanSo everyone Apokolips and New Genesis is the size of the Super heroes on Wonder World?
Is it official that they loose much of their strength when they travel from one Dimension to another?
And why do ailens grow when they travel to War World? Could someone like superman gain a strength increase when they are made bigger?Was the story i was referring to published during the Grant Morrison's run ?
Sorry that it is million Question time 😉
Yes they lose much of their strength when they shrink during their dimensional travels. It's common sense really. A 300 feet tall Superman is gonna be a hell of lot stronger than a 6 feet tall Superman.
Aliens grow so they won't be squashed like ants.
"Yes they lose much of their strength when they shrink during their dimensional travels. It's common sense really. A 300 feet tall Superman is gonna be a hell of lot stronger than a 6 feet tall Superman."
Yup the same way Odin is when he gets all tall like when he fought Surtur under Simonson. More powerful in everything.
Originally posted by yahman
"Yes. That was the "Injustice Gang" Saga."Mann this will say alot about my interlect but that was one of the most complicated comics i have ever read. But generally it was a good story. But wasn't Superman in his energy form, which to myknowledge wasn't that popular?
Yes. Superman was in his energy form. He absorbed an explosion designed by Luthor to kill him and Martian Manhunter. Except the light. Which made the explosion look like it killed them.
"So it'd be a moot point either way. If the Asgardians travel to W-World, they grow and get a proportionate strength increase. If the New Gods travel to Asgard, they shrink and get a proportionate strength decrease. Still the same"
Well done Columbo.... thanks for spoiling all the party !!!!🙁
Its started off because of this :
"As long no one starts saying theyr all class 100 "