Doc Ock Vs Wolverine

Started by Creshosk84 pages

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Like many wolvie examples, which is why storie stuff shouldn't be used, but facts should.
Then you can't say that OC is fast enough to hit spiderman, because that was ONLY in the story, when OC's profile lists his tenticle speed at 90 feet per second. . . which is only 61 mph.

Originally posted by Creshosk
From his profile, same place we get that Spiderman lifts 15 tons and Wolverine lifts 800 pounds.

Can't have it both ways, either we use inconsistant comic feats, or we go by profiles, EITHER way Wolverine IS fast enough to deal with Oct.

You keep trying to use it like it was valid, but it's OBVIOUSLY not. And I've shown why. Nightcrawler AND Storm.

No I wasn't you kept bitching about it, when you knew peter was the most agile.

I didnt think you were going to tell me WHERE PETER was doing anything out of ordinary.

You got that example from DC, put up a link that says ock's tentacle speed.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Then you can't say that OC is fast enough to hit spiderman, because that was ONLY in the story, when OC's profile lists his tenticle speed at 90 feet per second. . . which is only 61 mph.

Put up that link, less jibba jabba.

Go ahead and pick one. . .

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-29,GGLD:en&q=Doctor+octopus+tentacle+speed+feet+per+second&spell=1

Don't like the results? how about showing a profile that says something different?

Can't have it both ways, either we use inconsistant comic feats, or we go by profiles, EITHER way Wolverine IS fast enough to deal with Oct.

Hwo come? He hits and grabs Spider-Man with ease in his every appearence. He will do the same to Wolverine, who is not faster.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Go ahead and pick one. . .

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-29,GGLD:en&q=Doctor+octopus+tentacle+speed+feet+per+second&spell=1

Don't like the results? how about showing a profile that says something different?

Its not whether or not I did or didn't like one, tis the fact that people made up different speeds.

Wolverine is still toasted in response to Wanderer's question.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Its not whether or not I did or didn't like one, tis the fact that people made up different speeds.
Inclusding Marvel Directory which is an online verision of Marvels old character handbooks.

Yeah, Marvel made up the number 90 feet per second. Just as Marvel made up the number 800 for wolverine and 15 for spiderman.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine is still toasted in response to Wanderer's question.
How? You go for the wrists you lose two tentacles.

And the question says AT LEAST one. not ONLY one.

He clearified saying you go for the wrists you lose two tentacles.

He isn't, he said one, and hes' not losing the tentacles by going for the wrists.You missed the explanation on control and leverage again. Either way, slicing the end, if anything, makes his tentacles more useful than before, I guess we forgot about that.

Originally posted by Creshosk

How? You go for the wrists you lose two tentacles.

And the question says AT LEAST one. not ONLY one.

He clearified saying you go for the wrists you lose two tentacles.

You go for the wrists, you grab the fists. Ock can defeat easily guys who can move way faster then Wolverine does. Spider-Man could see his attack, neither his spider-sense had the time to do anything about it. He is that fast.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
You go for the wrists, you grab the fists. Ock can defeat easily guys who can move way faster then Wolverine does. Spider-Man could see his attack, neither his spider-sense had the time to do anything about it. He is that fast.

But wolverine can "snikt"!

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He isn't, he said one, and hes' not losing the tentacles by going for the wrists.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Alright, alright, for the sake of debate, let's say Ock takes hold of Wolverine which he's sacrificed at least one tentacle to do.

Now what?

Originally posted by Wanderer259
If Ock goes for Wolverine's wrists then yes, he will definitely lose a tentacle or two. He can come in with the others, sure, and will snag him, but he's just lost two tentacles.

He said at least one, and then clearified that if you go for the wrists you lose two.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He said at least one, and then clearified that if you go for the wrists you lose two.

He commented on my statement, that wasnt a clarification there, spanky.
"a tentacle or two"

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He commented on my statement, that wasnt a clarification there, spanky.
"a tentacle or two"

"he's just lost two tentacles."

Two tentacles. 🙂

Originally posted by Wanderer259
he's just lost two tentacles.

See? 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
"he's just lost two tentacles."

Two tentacles. 🙂

See? 🙂

He said, a tentacle or two, but thats his opinion.

I'm going by the losing one, and thats generous. Like in his previous post.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Inclusding Marvel Directory which is an online verision of Marvels old character handbooks.

Yeah, Marvel made up the number 90 feet per second. Just as Marvel made up the number 800 for wolverine and 15 for spiderman.

How? You go for the wrists you lose two tentacles.

And the question says AT LEAST one. not ONLY one.

He clearified saying you go for the wrists you lose two tentacles.

k... Now, even if Ock's Tents aren't statisticaly quick enough to hit spidey (WTF!!), you can't say in a right state of mind that you think that Wolverine's arms move faster. Now, if Ock is close enough to lose a Tent, he's quite close to making hte grab, right? Ok. Since Ock is faster than Wolverine, he can 1. move away from the counter or two 2. just grab Logan's wrists. Quite simple, ain't it?? lol Or! I've got another Idea!! He just attacks with more than two arms!! Last I counted, he had four mechanicle ones. So Ock can just attack from all sides. Only way Logan counters this is if Ock suddenly sees a really hot girl...

Also, why does he need to attac the arms?? That would be the worst place to attack. Maybe attack the legs, or just throw stuff. Ock's just too damn versitile for Logan. Sorry

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He said, a tentacle or two, but thats his opinion.
He said two tentacles. 😉

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I'm going by the losing one, and thats generous. Like in his previous post.

At least one. do you know what at least means? 🙂

And anyone else choosing the number is their opinion. . what about you chosing only one. . . uhu huh. . opinion.

Wolverine is fast enough to take out at least two. 😉

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
k... Now, even if Ock's Tents aren't statisticaly quick enough to hit spidey (WTF!!), you can't say in a right state of mind that you think that Wolverine's arms move faster. Now, if Ock is close enough to lose a Tent, he's quite close to making hte grab, right? Ok. Since Ock is faster than Wolverine, he can 1. move away from the counter or two 2. just grab Logan's wrists. Quite simple, ain't it?? lol Or! I've got another Idea!! He just attacks with more than two arms!! Last I counted, he had four mechanicle ones. So Ock can just attack from all sides. Only way Logan counters this is if Ock suddenly sees a really hot girl...

Also, why does he need to attac the arms?? That would be the worst place to attack. Maybe attack the legs, or just throw stuff. Ock's just too damn versitile for Logan. Sorry

Don't matter, wolvigod beats guys that are faster, stronger, more versatile, and smarter than him.

Watch them use a wolvie feat because they cannot counter.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He said two tentacles. 😉

At least one. do you know what at least means? 🙂

And anyone else choosing the number is their opinion. . what about you chosing only one. . . uhu huh. . opinion.

Wolverine is fast enough to take out at least two. 😉

No he's not, he moves, he has to adjust his weight from one side to another, he's countered, he loses leverage, and he's done.

Ocks just better in offense than wolverine is.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
k... Now, even if Ock's Tents aren't statisticaly quick enough to hit spidey (WTF!!), you can't say in a right state of mind that you think that Wolverine's arms move faster.
A peak human can't hit something moving at 61 mph when baseball players hit faster moving things all the time?

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Now, if Ock is close enough to lose a Tent, he's quite close to making hte grab, right?
Nope. claws are closer than Wolverine's arm. Going to grab the arm? you're already past the claws.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Ok. Since Ock is faster than Wolverine,
Not by comic book feats, and not statistically. 🙂

Only way Logan counters this is if Ock suddenly sees a really hot girl...

Nah, Ock can multitask, it isn't going to work. 😂