and sentry, strange did NOT 'beat on galactus'. he knocked him over and g did not even hit the ground. the attack did literally no harm to galactus at all.
Knocked him over and the bolt went through his armor, through his body, through his armor again and out the other side.
See the light behind him? He falls seemingly unconcious to Earth, then regains at the last second and catches himself before he hits.
. Galactus then goes on to wonder outloud if he could and what it would take to beat Strange in a fight.
You downplay that feat as though he just simply knocked him over.....no. It's not the first time he's gotten the best of Galactus.
But for this fight, I have no idea how powerful Asmodel or Neron are, I can't really say much.
You are man pig. I mean long. Uhhh.. longpig. Asmodel had a hard time with Superman. Neron is similar to Mephisto in the soul stealing department. Neron whooped on the JLA. So has Asmodel. Gog's biggest feats have been killing Superman over and over again. Against guys like Strange, Atum, Sentry, Thor, the other Pantheon Gods, Gaea, the combined might of earth's heroes, Doom, etc... Invaders fall.
Originally posted by ImmortalOne
It all comes back to the Presence, if he wants Asmodel to be a freakin shit strong dudem then the MU is doomed, but GOD doesnt want a rebellion to be strong !!!So, if Asmodel the oooooolllllldd angel before rebelling, MU loose
If Asmodel that defeated JLA, MU survives !!
If Asmodel really is a threat of that magnitude, LT will probably interevene or bar him from entering the Marvel Universe to keep the balance. The other two are fodder, and will be dealt with by Marvel Earth's heroes.
I see why this thread is so long most of the posts are by Sentry himself😂
Longpig Strange might be able to beat one of the three and that with Asmodel, Gog and Neron who all have high level mystical might, In Gogs case augmented with all sorts of other stuff. But against ll three his toast.
Marvel Earth is Doomed😄
Keep the faith😄
Stay Whirly🤘
Originally posted by the Darkone
Hell the phoenix force can pick the sentry to be it's new avatar. Can you imagine the power of the sentry with the phoenix force even molecule man will sh** in pants. He will be one of the most powerful beings in the universe, even franklin richards with his vast pisonic powers, reality changing powers that would be one powerful child.Even set and cthon would come back to earth, they would't let some outsiders takeover their home planet.
No please tell me what Sentry's power would be apart from the Phoenix force😄 but its not going to happen anyway😄
Keep the faith😄
Stay Whirly🤘
asmodel that had trouble with supes was weak. full power asmodel is, as i said, likely above galactus. long, i said it before - thing has knocked galactus down. was it an impressive feat? sure, i suppose. it did no damage at all, and certainly didn't knock him unconscious. so, in the end, how effective was it?
and unlike whirly, i seriously doubt strange could take any of these guys out 1on1 unless he has some major prep and a lot of cooperation from some of the heaviest hitters he can call. most anytime he beats someone of this level (which he rarely does) he has help. and for every bigwig he's fought, i could name someone not so big that has given him trouble. once again, people overestimate just how powerful strange is.
now that i have a little more info on gog, (thanks whirly!) i'd say marvel earth is screwed. (and sentry, for the sake of the discussion, i think we assume lt would let asmodel in - after all, if all they're after is earth, it's not of cosmic significance. and according to the thread, earth IS all they want. well, and asgard, apparently.)
Originally posted by leonidasnow that i have a little more info on gog, (thanks whirly!) i'd say marvel earth is screwed. (and sentry, for the sake of the discussion, i think we assume lt would let asmodel in - after all, if all they're after is earth, it's not of cosmic significance. and according to the thread, earth IS all they want. well, and asgard, apparently.)
Originally posted by Solidus SnakeThey start on earth and decide to flatten all of the heroes and then ascend to the pantheons ending with asgard and odin.
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
i think that they take everything and rule it.
Ok, look at the thread starters first post. Why wouldn't the pantheon gods help marvel earth battle against these 3 invaders? Look at the list of Gods of earth:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/appgods.htm
You've got the African Gods:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/africg.htm
Asgardians:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godsasgd.htm
Heliopolitans or Egyptian Gods:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godsegpt.htm
Mexican Gods:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/mexgods.htm
Olympians:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/godsolym.htm
Dark Gods:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/darkgdth.htm
Atum The God Eater:
http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-atumthegodeater.html
Gaea:
http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-gaea.html
Yeah, I know there evil, but if Asgard is threatened, the invaders will eventually reach them, so helping out their mortal enemies the Asgardians would be in there best interest.
Who's to say that Gog and Asmodel are more powerful than the combined might of earth gods? Snoop? Whirly? Solidus? Have they faced any other threats other than the JLA
The VishantiReal Name(s): Hoggoth, Oshtur, and Agamotto
Classification: Mystical Abstract entity
Nationality: Inapplicable
Place of Birth: Unrevealed, possibly inapplicable
Occupation: Mystical deities
Known Relatives: Unrevealed, possibly inapplicable
Affiliations: None
Extent of Education: Unrevealed, possibly inapplicable
Base of Operations: Unrevealed, possibly inapplicable
Height: Probably Inapplicable
Weight: Probably Inapplicable
Eyes: Various
Intelligence: Immeasurable
Strength: Incalculable
Speed: Warp speed
Stamina: Immeasurable
Durability: Godlike
Agility: Probably Inapplicable
Reflexes: Probably InapplicableDistinguishing Features: (Hoggoth) Blue skin, pointed ears, (Oshtur) Green skin, (Agamotto as a lion or a tiger) Golden skin, image of an ankh on his brow, (Agamotto as a caterpillar) None
Note: The Vishanti have never appeared to any human, even those trained in the occult, in their true aspect, which no mortal mind could comprehend and remain sane, instead appearing in a variety of disguised physical forms. It is their most frequently adopted forms that the statistics apply. When Doctor Stephen Strange has visited Agamotto's own dimension, Agamotto has appeared to him as a gigantic caterpillar. In fact, Agamotto explained to Strange that this was not his true form and that he had made himself an image from Lewis Carroll's "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" that he had seen in Strange's mind Agamotto has also been pictured as a being resembling no creature on Earth.
Hoggoth is often called "hoary Hoggoth," presumably indicating that he is of great age. Agamotto, however, has claimed to have existed before the creation of the Earth. Hence, if Hoggoth is indeed the eldest of the Vishanti, he is older than most other known beings in the multiverse. Sorcerers speak of "the hoary hosts of Hoggoth" and sometimes invoke the hosts themselves in casting spells. This fact suggests that Hoggoth's hosts themselves have existed perhaps as long as Hoggoth himself and that they too can bestow mystical power. No more is known about the hosts of Hoggoth, however.
Oshtur is often called "omnipotent Oshtur." This name suggests that she may be the most powerful of the three Vishanti. However, it is clear that Agamotto himself is one of the most powerful known mystical beings. On one occasion Dr. Strange invoked both Hoggoth and Oshtur in casting a spells against Agamotto, but the spell failed. Possibly this incident indicates that Agamotto is more powerful than either Hoggoth or Oshtur, or perhaps only that the other two Vishanti chose not to help Strange against Agamotto (in any event, though Oshtur clearly possesses vast power, she is presumably not literally omnipotent.) The fact that Oshtur is also addressed as "gracious lady" may indicate that she has a kindly and noble nature.
Of the three Vishanti, the most is known about Agamotto the All-Seeing according to one account, Agamotto was the first sorcerer supreme of the Earth dimension. Considering that Agamotto claims to be older than the Earth itself, and that he appears to be of other dimensional origin, this account may not be entirely accurate. However, Agamotto may indeed have himself acted directly to protect the Earth dimension before the rise of its first native sorcerer supreme.
Agamotto himself is called "the All-Seeing," and has apparently spent his long life observing events throughout the multiverse from the pocket dimension in which he resides. Agamotto's senses and mind are far more complex than a human being's, enabling him to watch and comprehend seemingly unlimited number of events simultaneously.
Agamotto dwells within a pocket dimension that Doctor Strange has entered by casting a spell that mystically transports him into the Eye or Orb of Agamotto. (If Strange enters through the Eye, then he exits through the Orb, and vice versa.) Agamotto's dimension is said to be a realm of "unreality," in which the natural laws of the Earth dimension do not necessarily apply. Hence, once when Strange was mortally wounded on Earth, he would not die as long as he remained within Agamotto's dimension. A traveler into Agamotto's dimension perceives that dimension according to his own subconscious fantasies. Hence, Strange's perception of that dimension appears to be based on his knowledge of the works of Lewis Carroll, EC Comics. 1960s' psychedelic art, and medieval art, among other things.
In his documented appearances along side Hoggoth and Oshtur, Agamotto appears to act as solemnly as the other two Vishanti. However, when he encounters Doctor Strange in his pocket dimension, Agamotto behaves quite differently, sometimes taking an ironic attitude toward Strange and the multiverse in general, sometimes becoming threatening, and sometimes acting in a highly benevolent manner. To what extent Agamotto's behavior with Strange reflects his true personality is not known. Moreover, it is possible that Agamotto is continually role-playing in his encounters with Strange in an effort to test Strange's skill and determination.
Powers: The Vishanti are mystical deities themselves. This means that they are capable of not only manipulate magical forces directly for virtually any purpose, but they also generate much of these energies themselves.
This will give them the following abilities: powers of the mind/soul/body, derived through manipulating the mystical energies on the psychic plane (mesmerism, astral projection, thought-casting, etc.), powers gained by tapping the universe's ambient magical energy and employing it for specific effects (teleportation, illusion-casting, energy projection), and finally, the powers gained through the tapping of extra-dimensional energy which normal sorcerers have to invoke entities or objects of power for, but to which the Vishanti themselves have unlimited access to. This results in the fact that, as long as it's derived from mystical energy, the Vishanti can do anything with it that they set their mind to.
Abilities: Virtually everything involving magical energies they can realize, but about their physical abilities (if they have even physical bodies) there is nothing known.
Paraphernalia: Agamotto is known to be the creator of the Amulet of Agamotto, which contains the Eye of Agamotto. The Amulet of Agamotto is traditionally in the possession of the Earth dimension's principal opponent to the sinister mystical being, Dormammu. Currently the amulet is the principal weapon in the possession of Dormammu's arch foe, Doctor Stephen Strange.
Doctor Strange also possesses another creation of Agamotto, the Crystal Orb of Agamotto, a mystical crystal ball through which Strange can see persons and things in far distant places both in the Earth dimension and other dimensions. Agamotto is aware of every time either the amulet or the Orb is utilized.
Presumably the Crystal Orb of Agamotto and the Eye of Agamotto draw on Agamotto's mystical ability to observe distant places and conceiled mystical aura.
Agamotto utilizes a device whose true form is unknown, but which Doctor Strange perceives as the caterpillar's hookah, or water pipe. Agamotto claims he uses it to focus his magic spells.
Together the Vishanti are responsible for the creation of The Book of The Vishanti. The greatest known source of magical knowledge in the Earth dimension. The Book contains descriptions of more spells and occult rituals than any other known work except the Darkhold, which deals primarily with black magic and is linked to the Evil demon-god Chthon. Every possessor of the Book has added his or her own original spells to the volume. Consequently, the arcane lore contained within The Book of The Vishanti is written in a variety of languages. It is not known how many pages the Book contains: as if by magic, pages seem to materialize within its binding to accommodate additional spells.
History: Normally the Vishanti don't mettle in human affairs but when Dr. Strange summoned them during an attack on him by Sligguth, the minion of Shuma-Gorath, they came to his aid. Shuma-Gorath is a long-time enemy of the Vishanti.
They will appear to other cosmic deity's though. For instance, they appeared to Kubik and Kosmos on their tour of the plains of existence.
Doctor Strange first entered Agamotto's pocket dimension soon after Strange had been mortally wounded by his enemy, Silver Dagger. When the dying Strange used the Orb of Agamotto, he found himself drawn through the Orb into Agamotto's dimension. There Strange met Agamotto, who appeared to him as a giant Caterpillar but did not identify himself. The caterpillar claimed that Strange's own wish to continue living was an 'unreal' desire (presumably because it seemed impossible), and that its unreality caused him to be drawn into this dimension of unreality (It is quite possible, however, that Agamotto drew Strange into the dimension specifically to save his life. After briefly taking on a more sinister form and battling Strange (possibly as a test of Strange's will to live), Agamotto told Strange how to leave the pocket dimension. Strange did so, died and returned to life through the intervention of the spirit of his deceased mentor, the Ancient One, and defeated Silver Dagger. On realizing that Strange was on the side of morality in their clash, Silver Dagger was himself drawn into Agamotto's dimension and remained a prisoner there for some time. Strange returned briefly to Agamotto's dimension in a later encounter with Silver Dagger.
Continuation of the Vishanti:
Years later, the alien sorcerer, Urthona, stole most of Strange's occult talismans and volumes, including the Orb of Agamotto and the Book of the Vishanti. Strange cast a spell to destroy the talismans and volumes in order to prevent them from being used by Urthona for evil purposes. (Urthona nonetheless escaped with the indestructible Darkhold, which he had also stolen from Strange.) Strange believed that the spell had indeed taken effect, but in actuality, Agamotto mystically transported the talismans and volumes to his pocket dimension.Months later, Strange returned to Agamotto's dimension to escape imprisonment in the nether dimension ruled by the demon, Mephisto. Strange again encountered the caterpillar, who revealed himself to be Agamotto, and insisted that Strange remain there as his companion Strange refused, intent on returning to Earth to save it from devastation by Mephisto and another demon, Satannish. Strange battled the far more powerful Agamotto, to no avail until Strange finally captured the caterpillar's "hookah." At that point Agamotto agreed to allow Strange to leave his dimension in exchange for the "hookah." Moreover, Agamotto returned to Strange all of his presumed destroyed talismans, as well as the Darkhold, which Agamotto had spirited away from Urthona's possession. Furthermore, Agamotto mystically gave Strange one of Silver Dagger's eyes, to replace the one that Strange had himself recently lost. Agamotto also gave Strange a cryptic hint as to how to defeat Mephisto and Satannish that Strange later successfully interpreted and used.
Possibly the first human magician on Earth to seek knowledge and power from the Vishanti was the man now known as the Aged Genghis. Before the dawn of human history in the Orient, the Aged Genghis asked certain mystical beings, presumably the Vishanti themselves, for great mystical knowledge. In return for their gift, he pledged to bring together Earth's most powerful sorcerers once every hundred years for a mystical competition to determine who should hold the rank of Earth's sorcerer supreme. The Aged Genghis has now lived for many thousands of years, aging extremely slowly but inevitably. Ultimately his extreme age and the strain of holding so much mystical knowledge within his mind caused the Aged Genghis to give way to senility. However, his full sanity returns every hundred years long enough for him to organize the competition, at which the Vishanti appear and administer a test of combat to the assembled sorcerers. The contest is held at the Temple of the Three in the jungles of Java. No sorcerer is allowed to approach the temple unless he is summoned to do so by the Vishanti or by the Aged Genghis, as their representative. The victor in the contest is obliged to grant a boon to any other sorcerers who were not felled in the struggle.
In the most recent such competition, which took place after Strange's most recent journey to Agamotto's dimension, the Vishanti created a large mystical crystal which imprisoned the Aged Genghis and which projected mystical forces at the competing sorcerers. The victor in the contest, who succeeded in freeing the Aged Genghis, was Doctor Strange. (It should be noted that all of the competitors were native to Earth. Possibly this means that the winner of the contest has proved himself to be the sorcerer supreme of Earth, but not necessarily the sorcerer supreme of the entire dimension containing Earth. At least one extraterrestrial, the sorcerer Urthona, is known to seek to become the Earth dimension's sorcerer supreme. It should also be noted that even before the competition, Dr. Strange was generally recognized to be sorcerer supreme of the Earth dimension.)
When the war of the seven spheres broke out and the Vishanti were declined to join the other mystical deities against their all-powerful counterparts. For this war they requested the aid of Dr. Strange as their mystic warrior. Strange refused, due to the expected length of this war (a mere few thousand years) and the fact that it would be impossible for him to hold his own while using the powers of the Vishanti in these combats. Thus the argument resulted in him renouncing all power that came from the deities like the Vishanti, the Faltine, the Seraphim etc.
When Strange found his own scource of magical power, derived from Gaea herself, he paid his carmic debt to the Vishanti. Fighting on their side, while learning other ways to receive mystical powers from their library. After the war ended Dr. Strange asked the Vishanti to return him only a few months after he had left.
Dr. Strange used some different kinds of magic after that. But after a while he came back in favor with the Vishanti. How is yet to be revealed.
These beings will not be in the battle physically, but will lend there powers to mystics such as Strange, Kale, Topaz... They have often aided Strange in battles against omnipotent beings. Earth's heroes and the Pantheon Gods can buy a lot of time and prep for Strange and the mystics to gather vast amounts of ambient magical energy. Gaea who is Mother Earth and Mother to most of the Pantheon Gods will also lend her powers to the mystics at the same time call upon her son Atum The God Eater to battle for her. Atum has never been defeated. Unlike those 3, which have been defeated before by Superman and the JLA.