Odin vs pre crisis darkseid

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Well lets look at what "adult" critics say about Miracleman

Certain works of art or literature seem to acquire a sort of mystique after a while. It usually has less to do with their high quality, and more with some chain of events that has made them hard to find. Some comics-related works that spring to mind are Alejandro Jodorowsky's legendary films El Topo and Holy Mountain, '60s sexy heroine comics like Jean-Claude Forest's Barbarella or Guy Peelaert's Pravda, and Roger Corman's movie adaptation of the Fantastic Four. One undesirable result of this is the snowballing of related hype, which might result in huge disappointment once you experience said piece of art. If there is one work in graphic fiction that has truly attained immortality through a combination of cult credibility, the involvement of living legends, and rarity, it has to be Miracleman. Imagine the feelings of one fanboy, finally clutching his long-awaited collector's copy of Miracleman, afraid to start reading it for fear of being let down, yet unable to hold back his smoldering anticipation: there I was, dear readers, about to tread another milestone in a long career of comics-reading, and scared of the outcome.

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Miracleman. The very mention of the name should send tingles up your spine, unless you've been stranded in Siberia for the past decade or two and don't know what the hell a Miracleman is (or you don't read much comics, which basically amounts to the same thing). If you haven't (been in Siberia, that is) you know it is Alan Moore's first true masterpiece, his first deconstruction of the superhero genre. That said, there is a fat chance you haven't read it, because Miracleman has been out of print for quite a while now, thanks to the meddling of one Todd McFarlane who bought the rights to the character from ailing publisher Eclipse, and a copyright lawsuit that also involves Mr. Neil Gaiman (who took over from Moore after 16 issues). The details of that story being too complex to describe in this article, I leave you to get acquainted with them here.

Due to the aforementioned legal battle, Miracleman is now only available as a used printing, and at colossal prices. Let me tell you I paid more for this book than I ever have for any other book. So naturally, the question would be: was it worth it?

I read book one of Miracleman in one sitting on a train trip. No sooner had I finished it, than I began to read it over again. It's been a long time since I've been so dumbfounded by a book. Probably not since Moore's Watchmen. Yes, boys and girls, it's that good.

http://www.popmatters.com/comics/miracleman-book1.shtml

You will find a huge number of reviews for MM like that on the web!

Trust me😄

Its that good😄

Keep the faith😄

Stay Whirly 🤘

I dont need an online reviewer to tell me what my opinion should be on a comic. I gave it a go on your recommendation and found it be rather long winded and somewhat pretentious. But hey whatever youre into each to their own. One mans good read is another mans yawnfest. 😄

Sorry i had to do it. You know im just joking wiv ya Whirly. I will give it a go. Is it in tpb format?

"Read Fourth World and find out"

Until i check it out name one or two big feats he did, because i never saw him doing anything impressive, and i want to see if theres interest in the character.

His staff is tied directly to the source😄 its power is limitless (I hate saying that) he is usually under advice from the Souorce not to battle as his power is so great.

So that means he never showed it?

Ill check it out anyway 👿

Originally posted by olympian
So that means he never showed it?

Ill check it out anyway 👿

Rarely, he uses it for creation more than destruction, he has rebuilt a lto of stuff instantly😄 Calmed Orion with a glance etc.

And also saying in a very subtle way what an ass Orion can be sometimes ala Cosmic Odissey.

Wich is a pretty damn good feat, but not on Odin`s level.

Originally posted by olympian
And also saying in a very subtle way what an ass Orion can be sometimes ala Cosmic Odissey.

Wich is a pretty damn good feat, but not on Odin`s level.

He wasn't able to defeat Darkseid either it took the Legion, UFP, Highfather Clone, white Witch and loads of others to just drive him off and he was in a weakened state at this point!

<<Not to mention we see early in that saga - on panel - Surtur doing it to forge his sword.>>

no we don't. narration states a galaxy explodes. never says anything about surtur doing it. that's what i thought you were referring to. later when odin says surtur destroyed it, (and this is nitpicky but . . .) he says the galaxy was destroyed when the walls of muspelheim were breached. surtur did not destroy the galaxy with his own power. he has never been shown to have that much power. loki even tackled him 1on1 for a prolonged period of time. that final scan is just silly. gladiator says he can rip stars in half with his hands, too.

i'll concede you half a point though, and should thank you. i had this exact discussion with someone else only i had YOUR pov. he convinced me though surtur is not that powerful. i fogot about the odin quote though, but he'd likely have argued against it as i have. anyhow, good point.

now back to the topic . . .

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Sorry i had to do it. You know im just joking wiv ya Whirly. I will give it a go. Is it in tpb format?

If you read the review you will see why Miracleman trades go for £150 a shot in mint😄 Best investment I ever made😄 well not really, but a good one.

I have to post the end of that review😄

So, the final word is this: Miracleman, like Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns, is a cornerstone of modern superhero revisionism. But more than that, it is a worrying reminder that today, nearly two decades after these works were released, not much of interest has been added to the subject of "realistic" superheroes. So my advice is if you haven't already experienced Miracleman, go out and find it, buy it, download it, whatever, then read it, cherish it, and expose those who merely re-write it every day

Keep the faith😄

Read the great darkness its in print still and shows how cool precrisis darksied was😄

stay whirly 🤘

There's a loada Miracleman paperbacks at a shop near me in the 5 for £2 box. Think I should give 'em a go Mr WhirlySplat? lol!?

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Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
There's a loada Miracleman paperbacks at a shop near me in the 5 for £2 box. Think I should give 'em a go Mr WhirlySplat? lol!?

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buy them and sell them on ebay, better yet tell me the shop and i will Zeph😄 they go for between £30 and £150 so if what your saying is true please tell me where it is!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you guys are forgetting is that odin can absorb all of the life force from asgard and the nine worlds surrounding asgard putting odin on the same level as a full power galactus.