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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why are you all saying "Why don't those 8 guys...."?The performers are rich too. How much are they donating?
Who will benefit more from this? Them or Africa?
Most of the people there probably went just to say "I was at Live 8". Not because of what it's supposed to achieve.
It's a farse.
-AC
It's more about the event than the damn goal.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why are you all saying "Why don't those 8 guys...."?The performers are rich too. How much are they donating?
Who will benefit more from this? Them or Africa?
Most of the people there probably went just to say "I was at Live 8". Not because of what it's supposed to achieve.
It's a farse.
-AC
i think a bit harsh, but you are on to something
when you are a famous musician, any exposure is profitable and spikes record sales. they DO profit, regardless of whether they get paid for that show. thus, i feel that they are obligated to donate a substantial portion of this years profits, or else they DID profit off it.
Originally posted by PVS
i think a bit harsh, but you are on to somethingwhen you are a famous musician, any exposure is profitable and spikes record sales. they DO profit, regardless of whether they get paid for that show. thus, i feel that they are obligated to donate a substantial portion of this years profits, or else they DID profit off it.
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And they can afford it.
no doubt some of the "artists" involved are in it as much for their sake as for Africa's.
But thanks to the publicity of the event the state of play in Africa is understood by millions more people than previously. This can only help Africa.
As far as Aid is concerned.......... yes it's short term, stop-gap, temporary. That is why the emphasis has been on fair trade rather than aid.
To those bitching about lasting effects, yet slating musicians for not giving more aid............. screw the nut!
I hope the G8 tke note of the huge numbers of people that they SERVE.
Edinburgh's gonna be interesting this week.
Anyone that knows me knows how I am with music. I don't need to explain it.
It's a magical thing, it's art in its greatest form. However, do you think the world leaders (two of which are Bush and Blair) are gonna be convinced to stop poverty just because a bunch of people turned up to watch loads of people play music?
Bush lied to his entire country to start a needless war. What makes you think he's gonna say "Aww shucks. Let's end poverty."?
If it works, great. Who honestly believes that A) It will and B) This whole thing is as non-profit as they claim?
-AC
Yeah, Jesu.........sorry, Bob Geldof and Moses........sorry, Bono, are kidding themselves.
How on Earth is a collection of artists consisting of Snoop Dog, Beyonce and The Killers truly amount to anything?
I mean, when Live 8 tickets are being pawned on EBay for triple, sometimes four times than their face value, it shows how much the public actually cares about the cause above the event. It hasn't transceneded that pop-show vibe, and that's what hurts it. That's all it is, an event. Another festival on the tick list over the summer. It's stuck in a realm of nothingness. It may do what most campaigns only dream about, and yes it will save thousands of lives, but in terms of politcial impact it will only do as much as the first one ever did.
I mean, sure, make some noise, but doing a festival-esque performance with pop stars does not get the message across, especially when all these performers do is perform their most-famous songs. What sort of message is that? It's just another typical political THING that won't do an awful lot. And I hate that, because in my heart I want it to achieve everything it possibly can.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Anyone that knows me knows how I am with music. I don't need to explain it.It's a magical thing, it's art in its greatest form. However, do you think the world leaders (two of which are Bush and Blair) are gonna be convinced to stop poverty just because a bunch of people turned up to watch loads of people play music?
Bush lied to his entire country to start a needless war. What makes you think he's gonna say "Aww shucks. Let's end poverty."?
If it works, great. Who honestly believes that A) It will and B) This whole thing is as non-profit as they claim?
-AC
how dismal
how true
Politicians listen to their electorate...... could happen.
1.5 million people in Phillie, why bother to go if ll you want is to see the bands, better view on the TV. Same is true for every concert today. No point being at the concert if you aint reasonably close.
Tickets given away for free, cynical sods selling them aint the organiser's fault.
To the politicians..... Blair will listen. He is where he is because he panders to the public. I have no faith in America or Americans to sort anything out but hopefully the rest of the G8 will see the light.
Of course it's non-profit. Some of you lot give cynics a bad name.
Why is it so definately non-profit? Because they tell you it is?
If by non-profit you mean the tickets were free, yeah, fine. If you mean overall that the performers are gaining nothing, you're so far wrong it's not even funny.
That's why I have respect for humans like Angelina Jolie, who actually actively go out to these places and take an active stance in what goes on. As opposed to turning up like Brad Pitt and saying "So, how about that poverty eh?"
When every person involved starts donating millions to the cause, I'll believe it.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why is it so definately non-profit? Because they tell you it is?If by non-profit you mean the tickets were free, yeah, fine. If you mean overall that the performers are gaining nothing, you're so far wrong it's not even funny.
That's why I have respect for humans like Angelina Jolie, who actually actively go out to these places and take an active stance in what goes on. As opposed to turning up like Brad Pitt and saying "So, how about that poverty eh?"
When every person involved starts donating millions to the cause, I'll believe it.
-AC
Angelina Jolie just plain rocks though. She's a shining light, a beacon, if you will.
I get annoyed with most of the people running the show...
But Pink Floyd played for the first time in decades... and that was worth the whole thing happening...
I reckon it is a win win situation for everyone... the tickets were as good as free (even though it was purely luck)... unless purchased by other means *cough* eBay *cough*, people got to see great live music. The people performing boosted there career. and there is a possibility that it may effect the way the G8 think and may influence them to take more drastic measures in helping the poorest continent in the world!
Live 8 isnt going to do crap for stopping poverty in Africa. One man who knows what he stands for can do more than a bunch of people who WANT to stand for somthing. I think there are a few people involved who genuienly care about what is going on. I think the others just have good intentions. I'm am not trying to knock the event, i htink it is always cool when people around the world can come together for a righteous cause, but there is no way that this concert event will influence people of power to change their minds about anything. After it is over, every one involved will go back to their same old routines. Change happens with determination and persistance. Isnt clear channel involved? Clear channel are the bastards helping to take away our freedom of speech.