I'm just giving him a hard time. And yeah, everyone makes mistakes at times, but making them CONSTANTLY and REPEATEDLY is different. If he had simply shown a scan of roughhouse lifting this fourty ton object with a little note, or thought bubble saying "Wow, this fourty tons is nothing." Then that would have been the end to the roughhouse argument for me.
Regardless of roughhouse, Wolverine still wouldn't be able to take on an alien queen with his bare hands. He MIGHT scrape out 50/50 with a SINGLE elder predator(assuming the predator doesn't have all of his armor and gear), but there is no WEIGH (heh 😉 ) that Wolverine has even a 1/10 in this fight.
EDIT: Oh, and I'd just like to point out that "discrediting" your opposition has been a viable debate tactic since debate itself was formalized. So don't go talking about it as if it is some underhanded trickery.
Originally posted by Soljer
I'm just giving him a hard time. And yeah, everyone makes mistakes at times, but making them CONSTANTLY and REPEATEDLY is different. If he had simply shown a scan of roughhouse lifting this fourty ton object with a little note, or thought bubble saying "Wow, this fourty tons is nothing." Then that would have been the end to the roughhouse argument for me.Regardless of roughhouse, Wolverine still wouldn't be able to take on an alien queen with his bare hands. He MIGHT scrape out 50/50 with a SINGLE elder predator(assuming the predator doesn't have all of his armor and gear), but there is no WEIGH (heh 😉 ) that Wolverine has even a 1/10 in this fight.
well if he was fight one pred who had armor but only the invisable function he can wi cause his sence of smell and hearing would give away were their at as for the armor and his claws both being indestrutable they could fight for days before the pred takes his helm off or any other pice of armor then wolve takes it as for one pred with only a spear no other wepons/gear or armor wolve wins its to close range for one pred to fight him like that so yes he can take one pred
I'm not saying he couldn't take predators. Wolverine would make unblooded's look like chumps. He might be able to take an elder predator who has nothing but a spear 5, maybe 6/10. His chances drop to two or three out of ten when that Elder predator is fully equipped. His chances drop to zero out of ten when there are FIVE elders, regardless of equipment.
Originally posted by Soljer
I'm not saying he couldn't take predators. Wolverine would make unblooded's look like chumps. He might be able to take an elder predator who has nothing but a spear 5, maybe 6/10. His chances drop to two or three out of ten when that Elder predator is fully equipped. His chances drop to zero out of ten when there are FIVE elders, regardless of equipment.
i say wolve vs five elder preds goes
wolve 1/5 meaning he kills i and the other four ko him
Yes, you've said that repeatedly. We understand your position.
Wolvie kills one and gets ko'ed.
Wolvie kills one and gets ko'ed.
Wolvie kills one and gets ko'ed.
Wolvie kills one and gets ko'ed.
Got it. Don't see how it would happen, but we got your opinion. People may start over looking your posts if you keep posting the same thing, I.E. WHAT you think would happen, but not WHY.
While repetition is a viable literary tactic, and perhaps one in advertising, in debate it makes you look uneducated.
Originally posted by Soljer
Yes, you've said that repeatedly. We understand your position.Wolvie kills one and gets ko'ed.
Wolvie kills one and gets ko'ed.
Wolvie kills one and gets ko'ed.
Wolvie kills one and gets ko'ed.Got it. Don't see how it would happen, but we got your opinion. People may start over looking your posts if you keep posting the same thing, I.E. WHAT you think would happen, but not WHY.
While repetition is a viable literary tactic, and perhaps one in advertising, in debate it makes you look uneducated.
all i must not have said why apperently my bad
here its so close ranged(stated a bunch to)
and all preds have is spear while wolve has claws,healing factor and his 5 sences he can smell or hear any pred trying to sneek up on him some may throw their spears and some may keep them (cause its the most logical way to go) wolve dodges on spear then while dodgeing one other hits him the preds see the spear sticking out of him they dont know of his healing factor yet they try and get close to him he pulls the spear out their close range now he tosses the spear at one it dodges then he stabs it while its distracted then the other preds find a way to ko's him
is that good enough explaination?
Tosses a spear? They aren't Javelins. It is said (in forum rules) that combatants have a basic knowledge of one another. These predators are going to be cautious, they aren't dumb.
They are easily faster than wolverine, and a spear has MUCH longer reach than a five foot tall man's arms. Even with foot long claws at the end of them. Therefore, the spears can keep him at bay. He can't close on any one of them, becasue (at a predators WORST, giving logan a HUGE benefit of the doubt) they are equal in speed and skill(and at their best, far beyond wolverine's speed and skill). He wouldn't be able to close the gap.
Why Pred wins.
Strength😛red
Speed😄eabatable give the edge to Wolverine.
Weapons:Combi-Stick has more range.
Fighting Skill😄ebatable, but IMO Elder has way more skills. Wolvie been around for 120 years roughly and Elder could be 1,000 years old and their society is based on the hunt.
Expirence😛red; see fighting skill.
Durability:Wolverine.
1 Elder edges out Wolverine 4 to 2, add 4 more Elders and it is OVERKILL.
You guys underestimate Wolverine's skill in fighting. An elder may have 1,000 years of experience, but Wolverine has beaten Ogun, a master ninja sorceror who also had 1,000 years of experience. Wolverine beat Ogun hand to hand, no claws. Ogun also implanted his own 1000 years of knowledge into his students, and Wolverine was one of his students. Wolverine killed Ogun and in the last fight Ogun's skills were useless against Wolverine's berserker rage.
Most of you are also really underestimating Wolverine's speed. Predators are fast, but Elders are no faster than normal hunters. Wolverine can move so fast that he can't be tracked. I dont think I've ever seen a Predator come anywhere close to his speed level.
Wolverine has gone up against huge numbers of brood, which are based on the Xenomorphs, except they are far more intelligent and have very impressive technology. He's killed Brood Queens and taken on entire Demon nations in the N'Gari.
I dont see 5 elder Predators being any real challenge.
Originally posted by Shinkuu
You guys underestimate Wolverine's skill in fighting. An elder may have 1,000 years of experience, but Wolverine has beaten Ogun, a master ninja sorceror who also had 1,000 years of experience. Wolverine beat Ogun hand to hand, no claws. Ogun also implanted his own 1000 years of knowledge into his students, and Wolverine was one of his students. Wolverine killed Ogun and in the last fight Ogun's skills were useless against Wolverine's berserker rage.Most of you are also really underestimating Wolverine's speed. Predators are fast, but Elders are no faster than normal hunters. Wolverine can move so fast that he can't be tracked. I dont think I've ever seen a Predator come anywhere close to his speed level.
Wolverine has gone up against huge numbers of brood, which are based on the Xenomorphs, except they are far more intelligent and have very impressive technology. He's killed Brood Queens and taken on entire Demon nations in the N'Gari.
I dont see 5 elder Predators being any real challenge.
well id agree compleatly with u their
Originally posted by Shinkuu
You guys underestimate Wolverine's skill in fighting. An elder may have 1,000 years of experience, but Wolverine has beaten Ogun, a master ninja sorceror who also had 1,000 years of experience. Wolverine beat Ogun hand to hand, no claws. Ogun also implanted his own 1000 years of knowledge into his students, and Wolverine was one of his students. Wolverine killed Ogun and in the last fight Ogun's skills were useless against Wolverine's berserker rage.Most of you are also really underestimating Wolverine's speed. Predators are fast, but Elders are no faster than normal hunters. Wolverine can move so fast that he can't be tracked. I dont think I've ever seen a Predator come anywhere close to his speed level.
Wolverine has gone up against huge numbers of brood, which are based on the Xenomorphs, except they are far more intelligent and have very impressive technology. He's killed Brood Queens and taken on entire Demon nations in the N'Gari.
I dont see 5 elder Predators being any real challenge.