Religion & Health

Started by Goddess Kali7 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But you are being offensive with no positive or productive outcome in mind.

Humor is not positive ? Whoever takes that Jesus joke seriously needs to set thier priorities straight.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Karma is created by thought. If you think something, that Karma will manifest itself in your life.

What do I think that you feel is negative ?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don’t care who you have sex with.

Then why do my jokes matter to you ? You take them too seriously.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The lack of understanding that every thought belongs to you: What you fill your mind with is up to you, but please just realize that what you think is what you are.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe I think about far more things than sex, Christianity, and KMC ?

If you truly imagine that an online avatar fully reprsents a person's true self, then no offense my freind, but you should go out and meet more people instead of making freinds online.

People are ALWAYS different in real life than they are online. Trust me..I've had more internet hookups than you can imagine....people are always one way online, and another way in person.

Did you ever figure that maybe I go online when I am bored, frustrated, happy, excited, or in moments of certain emotions, and that I do not necessary open up completely to online hosts ?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don’t think you are a misguided person. I just think you are missing an opportunity to learn.

An oppurtunity to learn from a person who spends more time bashing me on KMC than on doing anything else. Yeah, i missed out alright 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you give me a Sutra where self control is not a primary aspect of the teaching?

I didn't say Self Control wasn't a primary aspect of Buddhism. I said there is far more to Buddhism then just self control.

And secondly, how do you know my speech and actions are beyond my control ?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am only trying to be your friend.

Yes, by implying that I should take word from a person who takes every oppurtunity to insult me. A person who has called me a pervert, a retart, disgusting, stupid, etc.- every name you can imagine.

I have done and said no wrong to him. He never has anything positive to say to me, he only has useless criticism and childish insults, I am pretty much a target for his own anger and frustration.

Why he is angry and frustrated, I do not know, and I stopped caring a while back.

But I will not have respect for the words of a person who has no respect or consideration for me.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Humor is not positive ? Whoever takes that Jesus joke seriously needs to set thier priorities straight.

What do I think that you feel is negative ?

Then why do my jokes matter to you ? You take them too seriously.

Humor can be both. You are responsible for what you say. I honestly think that you use humor to try and hurt people. I don’t think you do it all the time, and I don’t think you are a bad person because of it. I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Did you ever stop to think that maybe I think about far more things than sex, Christianity, and KMC ? [/B]

I stop to think all the time, do you?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
If you truly imagine that an online avatar fully reprsents a person's true self, then no offense my freind, but you should go out and meet more people instead of making freinds online. [/B]

No need to get defensive.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
People are ALWAYS different in real life than they are online. Trust me..I've had more internet hookups than you can imagine....people are always one way online, and another way in person. [/B]

I am aware of this.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Did you ever figure that maybe I go online when I am bored, frustrated, happy, excited, or in moments of certain emotions, and that I do not necessary open up completely to online hosts ? [/B]

I don’t see how this is relevant.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
An oppurtunity to learn from a person who spends more time bashing me on KMC than on doing anything else. Yeah, i missed out alright 😆 [/B]

Most opportunities to learn come from adversity.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I didn't say Self Control wasn't a primary aspect of Buddhism. I said there is far more to Buddhism then just self control. [/B]

Please elaborate.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
And secondly, how do you know my speech and actions are beyond my control ? [/B]

I never made such a claim.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Yes, by implying that I should take word from a person who takes every oppurtunity to insult me. A person who has called me a pervert, a retart, disgusting, stupid, etc.- every name you can imagine.

I have done and said no wrong to him. He never has anything positive to say to me, he only has useless criticism and childish insults, I am pretty much a target for his own anger and frustration. [/B]

What other people call you should have no impact on you. As a matter of fact, it shows the pain that they are feeling. Compassion should lead you to find a way be constructive rather then dwelling on self.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Why he is angry and frustrated, I do not know, and I stopped caring a while back. [/B]

Never stop caring.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
But I will not have respect for the words of a person who has no respect or consideration for me. [/B]

I never said have respect. You can learn from the lowest devil in the pits of hell.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Humor can be both. You are responsible for what you say. I honestly think that you use humor to try and hurt people. I don’t think you do it all the time, and I don’t think you are a bad person because of it. I could be wrong.

This is what it all comes down to. Why do you think that ?

Who have I hurt with my humor ? If I have done so, than I severely apologize.

My respect for Christianity has grown beleive it or not. I am no longer angry at Christianity, and I no longer stereotype Christians as ignorant people. They are people trying to find thier way just like me.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I never said have respect. You can learn from the lowest devil in the pits of hell.

I am not always in the World of Bodhisvattva

I do not have the mental strength or maturity yet to care for people who slander or insult me to that extant. I also lack the patience for people like that. In real life, online, doesn't matter.

One day I will 🙂

Originally posted by Nellinator
Studies indicate a high correlation between meaningful faith and happiness...
I've read that too. Faith in something greater.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I've benefitted from Buddhism in a matter of weeks. Am I a brand new person? No..I am still learning and growing and experiencing.

Thats almost exactly like born-agains.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
However, You even earlier claimed that Nam Myo Renge Kyo opens the path to wisdom immediately.

Thats not a contradiciton at all. The PATH to wisdom is not wisdom itself...just like all religions, there has to be a process to obtain a goal. How long did it take Siddartha to become enlightened? I doubt you're beating him.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
And I admire your constant influence on my person, but please do not aim to give me lectures ok ? I don't need that.

Sometimes people need to be told, up front.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Please...his words fall on deaf ears. He cares about what I say too much, and doesn't realize that his words mean absolutely nothing to me. I am just grow tired of him following me on every single thread with his 2 cents.

You're the one always running and screaming about how you're so above al this. Your recent posts are either childish criticisms of Christianity or sex posts. I find that annoying. I don't follow you. I post in the following forums: Signatures, Star Wars, Religion, and the GDF...occaisionally in Philosophy and the OTF. Thats nto following, I rarely even respon to your posts.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Secondly, if my tendency to make jokes constantly referencing homosexuality annoys you, than just say so directly.

Except if you do, as I have done, you get defensive and scream about stalking.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
But please do not attempt to lecture me, as if anything I say on KMC, joking or serious, has any effect on my real life, or represents my person in any factual way.

Then why are you here?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
You have a strict self discipline. I do not. Get over it.

Then learn some or be banned. You are responsible for your actions and if you have no self-discipline, you're not a very good Buddhist are you?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Buddhism is my philosophy, not my religion. I don't want a religion.

Again, a philosophy cannot be seperated from the religion. Under your assessment, JIA is not really a Christian. He doesn't actuall promote ritual or religious structure, he simply follows the philosophy of Chirstianity as he sees it. If you are Buddhist, or trying to be one, you are engaging in religion. There is no "I'm Buddhist, but athiest"

Originally posted by Alliance
Thats almost exactly like born-agains...

That's what you get when Christians become Buddhists. They have a hard time letting go of that "born again" mentality. Buddhist is a path that we follow for all of our lives.

Originally posted by cking
Adam and eve were vegetarians because there was no sin no, so no animal was killed to cover their nakedness. before they sinned, between them and the animals, their was no killing and everyone got along.

Meh, vegetables are just animals that can't run away. The same force of "life" is in them. I'm vegetarian, but I don't see myself as being more benevolent than before because I'm not "killing". Death is necessary for life.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Meh, vegetables are just animals that can't run away.
😆

Though I'm a vegetarian, lets not talk about vegetables in a way that I might imagine them having feelings.......I'd have to whack it good before I eat it so that's it's unconscious... 🙁

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That's what you get when Christians become Buddhists. They have a hard time letting go of that "born again" mentality. Buddhist is a path that we follow for all of our lives.

People are allowed to create synergies though. Christians would say the same about Buddhists who became Christians.

Not all Christians are born agains though. While the faiths are very different, some elements are the same.

Originally posted by Alliance
People are allowed to create synergies though. Christians would say the same about Buddhists who became Christians.

Not all Christians are born agains though. While the faiths are very different, some elements are the same.

I think you are telling me something I already know, but I'm not sure.

The head of the Catholic church in Mozambique said on Wednesday he believed some European-made condoms were deliberately tainted with the HIV/AIDS virus to kill African people.

"I know of two countries in Europe who are making condoms with (the) virus on purpose, they want to finish with African people as part of their program to colonize the continent," Archbishop Francisco Chimoio told Reuters.

"If we are not careful we will finish in one century."

"I also know some companies who are manufacturing anti-retroviral drugs already infected with the virus, also in order to finish quickly the African people", Chimoio said.

He declined to name the European countries in question or the source of his allegations.

The Catholic Church, followed by 17 percent of Mozambique' s population, opposes the use of condoms.

"People must choose what they want between death and I propose to them that (abstinence) is the best way to fight HIV/AIDS," Chimoio said.


Research showed that there is no evidence whatsoever that moral recommendations, such as abstinence, have any impact that might prevent infection and curb the epidemic. While people are dying, religious ideology is placed before human needs.

Tainted condoms? *slaps forehead*

I guess the Catholics were running out of rational arguments to stop the spread of potentially life-saving contraception.

Diabetic Girl, 11, Cured by Prayer!

...not. The poor kid died, due to her parent's blind faith, ignorance, and all-around stupidity. It's a sad story, really. The girl probably trusted her parent's judgement and thought she was going to get better with the power of God. Little did she know, her parents were just as naive as her. ;______;

Source here: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/28/prayer.death.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

OMG, I laughed so hard

"Leilani Neumann, 40, previously said she never expected her daughter to die. The family believes in the Bible, which says healing comes from God, but they have nothing against doctors, she said."

Do you think she now believes God "pwned" her?

-Edit

Even though this is an older story, this is what I am talking about when Sithsaber post one of his "Man gets sodomized by gorilla and has face bitten off, yet survives because of Jesus through prayer." threads. Where was God here? Why isn't God accountable when the prayers aren't answered? I'm not saying you can't thank God for said "miracle", but saying "God did it!" as fact, is foolish.

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Medicine wouldn't have worked anywho, god wanted her to DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
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no

Originally posted by Bardiel13
...not. The poor kid died, due to her parent's blind faith, ignorance, and all-around stupidity. It's a sad story, really. The girl probably trusted her parent's judgement and thought she was going to get better with the power of God. Little did she know, her parents were just as naive as her. ;______;

Source here: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/28/prayer.death.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


This happened quite a while ago. They've just recently found out the cause of death but I heard about a while ago.