Why I'm better than god....

What if God was a lie though. I think it was something created to scare people into obeying their rulers.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
1. I do exist. There is no debate about the subject. It can be proven over and over again. For an airplane ticket and a small fee, I can prove it to you face to face.

Why does it matter if it's debatable or not. The reason for our own creation involves His existance being debatable being debatable.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
2. I have created life. There can be no debate on the subject. A simple DNA test can prove so.

Webster's definition:
Create: To bring into existance out of nothing.

Sounds like you needed a little bit of DNA to make your baby.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
3. I don't tell people how to live. I do what I think is right without trying to force my morality onto others via threats of damnation and the like.

From what I can see, God gave us free-will. We DO live how we want. But He also said that if you choose not to beleive in Him and you reject his only son who died for your sins despite his sinless life (only if you are a father, will you understand the magnitude of this sacrifice), He will bestow upon you eternal suffering.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
4. I don't pretend to be all powerful. I have my limits and accept them.

Tell me how you know that God is pretending to be all powerful.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
5. I admit to doing everything I do, good or bad. I don't pretend to be the cause of all that is good yet pass off blame onto others if something I do is interpreted as being bad to others.

God allows good AND bad things happen to us because they are opporunities to become spiritually stronger. Yes it may be INTERPRETED as bad but not neccesarilly bad in truth.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
6. I give people a choice. I don't demand they worship me, although they are certainly welcome to if they wish. I will never tell others, "thou shalt have no other Evil Dead's before me"...as a matter of fact, I don't Command anything from them.

As said above God doesn't demand you worship him. And even if he did, how does being lenient make you better than him?

Originally posted by Imagawa666
What if God was a lie though. I think it was something created to scare people into obeying their rulers.

That is true...it was....and created by people in power to subdue the people and create a united group....all under a new ruler....just like always....

Originally posted by Pyropsycho
From what I can see, God gave us free-will. We DO live how we want. But He also said that if you choose not to beleive in Him and you reject his only son who died for your sins despite his sinless life (only if you are a father, will you understand the magnitude of this sacrifice), He will bestow upon you eternal suffering.

God allows good AND bad things happen to us because they are opporunities to become spiritually stronger. Yes it may be INTERPRETED as bad but not neccesarilly bad in truth.

Acts 13:48

When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Ephesians 1:4-5

Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him In love, He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will…

Jude 1:4

For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:29-30

For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

Romans 9:11-22

For though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God's purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, it was said to her, "THE OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER."

Just as it is written, "JACOB I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED."

What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be!

For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION."

So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH."

So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.

You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?"

On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it?

Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?

What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

2 Timothy 1:9

Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity…

Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Why does it matter if it's debatable or not. The reason for our own creation involves His existance being debatable being debatable.

Webster's definition:
Create: To bring into existance out of nothing.

Sounds like you needed a little bit of DNA to make your baby.

From what I can see, God gave us free-will. We DO live how we want. But He also said that if you choose not to beleive in Him and you reject his only son who died for your sins despite his sinless life (only if you are a father, will you understand the magnitude of this sacrifice), He will bestow upon you eternal suffering.

Tell me how you know that God is pretending to be all powerful.

God allows good AND bad things happen to us because they are opporunities to become spiritually stronger. Yes it may be INTERPRETED as bad but not neccesarilly bad in truth.

As said above God doesn't demand you worship him. And even if he did, how does being lenient make you better than him?

🤘 I agree.

Tell me how you know that God is pretending to be all powerful.

God allows good AND bad things happen to us because they are opporunities to become spiritually stronger. Yes it may be INTERPRETED as bad but not neccesarilly bad in truth

wow.......19 pages......still going eh?

I'll indulge you pyropsycho......

Why does it matter if it's debatable or not. The reason for our own creation involves His existance being debatable being debatable.

that makes no sense. Our creation does not involve his existence.......it involves the existence of the species we evolved from......the species they evolved from and so on. Ever heard the old saying, "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"? I'm a bird in the hand. You can touch me....I'm real.

Webster's definition:
Create: To bring into existance out of nothing.

Sounds like you needed a little bit of DNA to make your baby.

really? Is that what webster says? I thought it said....

Main Entry: 1cre·ate
Pronunciation: krE-'At, 'krE-"
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): cre·at·ed; cre·at·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin creatus, past participle of creare; akin to Latin crescere to grow -- more at CRESCENT
transitive senses
1 : to bring into existence <God created the heaven and the earth -- Gen 1:1 (Authorized Version)>
2 a : to invest with a new form, office, or rank <was created a lieutenant> b : to produce or bring about by a course of action or behavior <her arrival created a terrible fuss> <create new jobs>
3 : CAUSE, OCCASION <famine creates high food prices>
4 a : to produce through imaginative skill <create a painting> b : DESIGN <creates dresses>
intransitive senses : to make or bring into existence something new

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=create

From what I can see, God gave us free-will. We DO live how we want. But He also said that if you choose not to beleive in Him and you reject his only son who died for your sins despite his sinless life (only if you are a father, will you understand the magnitude of this sacrifice), He will bestow upon you eternal suffering.

so.....tell me how this is FREE will again? You just said it was free.....but followed it up with the price you must pay, the cost. If there is a price....a cost.....exactly how is this free again?

Tell me how you know that God is pretending to be all powerful.

"I am the lord God almighty. Thou shalt have no gods before me"

God allows good AND bad things happen to us because they are opporunities to become spiritually stronger. Yes it may be INTERPRETED as bad but not neccesarilly bad in truth.

really....hmmmm. So a crack baby dies 2 minutes after birth......exactly when did this baby get the opportunity to become "spiritually stronger"?

As said above God doesn't demand you worship him. And even if he did, how does being lenient make you better than him?

as said above......"I am the lord god almighty, thou shalt have no other gods before me". Never said I was lenient......I flat out stated that I don't demand worship from anyone. Leniency implies I demand it.....but deal out no harsh punishment for those who don't.

ED's alive, welcome back...

back?

I'm always around man........I hit up the GD, Philosophy and Horror flick forums too......aswell as miscellanious forums I browse while I'm bored.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
1. I do exist. There is no debate about the subject. It can be proven over and over again. For an airplane ticket and a small fee, I can prove it to you face to face.

2. I have created life. There can be no debate on the subject. A simple DNA test can prove so.

3. I don't tell people how to live. I do what I think is right without trying to force my morality onto others via threats of damnation and the like.

4. I don't pretend to be all powerful. I have my limits and accept them.

5. I admit to doing everything I do, good or bad. I don't pretend to be the cause of all that is good yet pass off blame onto others if something I do is interpreted as being bad to others.

6. I give people a choice. I don't demand they worship me, although they are certainly welcome to if they wish. I will never tell others, "thou shalt have no other Evil Dead's before me"...as a matter of fact, I don't Command anything from them.

discuss.

Originally posted by Clone-Commander
Who created you? Your father, you say? Then who created your father? Your Grandfather? Who created the first person on this earth? The invisible dad who never existed? No. God did. And dont talk about evolution because they say that we evolved from microscopic life forms. Who created those? And Who Created the stuff that made the stuff that made the microscopic life forms? God did. Now stop acting like a god and come to believe he exists. Take this for example, if you were to die and there was no god, then you wqould just dissapear from history and no consequence. But if there is a god (trust me, there is) then when you die and you dont believe in him then you will be dancin with someone I call Satan and you will be burning likle a pig in the world trade centers on 9/11. May god be with you unbelievers. Because you will need it.

Life has always been. The cosmos is alive and evolution is the hand of God creating the universe.

Who created you? Your father, you say? Then who created your father? Your Grandfather? Who created the first person on this earth? The invisible dad who never existed? No. God did. And dont talk about evolution because they say that we evolved from microscopic life forms. Who created those? And Who Created the stuff that made the stuff that made the microscopic life forms? God did.

who created god? yeah......jackass.

Simple. God always was. Hed have to be a god to of been here forever. Or he would have died of boredom. (joke) Anyways, who created the universe? What is the universe? How can you of reached the universe if it is not there? Is there a universe? What is the definition of universe? How can tehre be a definition of universe if the universe is not of the universe which cannot be unless with the help of the almighty god? I am not saying he does not exist, I am saying that for you to be here, complaining why you are better than god is moree of a miracle than the earth being created, but the earth is a home for the sinner and god did not want us to be a sinner. You see, there would be no heaven or hell if it wasnt for adam and eve. They ate from the forbidden tree and god told them not to so they then created hell, which satan made his nice, comfy, warm home. But god sent Satan to tempt them so they could live in heaven. Thee is an opposite of everything and that is also why nothing is the same as another. i am getting really sick of your talking all "I AM GOD!" You are lucky enough to even be alive. Lets say we were god. People were ants. You cannot make the ants move where you want them to. But the ants may move there on thier own. You cannot stop an ant from dying, but you can make thier memories of where the were sweet. You can do everything possible to make them happy but they never will because there is always more, more, more. Without heaven we would be wondering wherther payday would come soon enough for the money needed to pay off a loan. Or even wonder when you will die, and you never will, as to teh fact that you never live in the first place.

Simple. God always was. Hed have to be a god to of been here forever

Clone commander seems like a fanatic.... BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

blah blah christian hypocritical bullshit blah blah...... i am getting really sick of your talking all "I AM GOD!" You are lucky enough to even be alive. Lets say we were god. People were ants. You cannot make the ants move where you want them to. But the ants may move there on thier own. You cannot stop an ant from dying, but you can make thier memories of where the were sweet. You can do everything possible to make them happy but they never will because there is always more, more, more. Without heaven we would be wondering wherther payday would come soon enough for the money needed to pay off a loan. Or even wonder when you will die, and you never will, as to teh fact that you never live in the first place."

do you have trouble reading English? English mother fucker, do you speak it? Nowhere in these 19 pages have I claimed to be god.........or that one even exists. Is English your first language, or second for that matter? What you claim I say is in direct contradiction to every post in this thread and the entire premise of the thread in the first place.

as for your heaven speil........you may need dreams of some invisible place in the sky that you will be going to upon death to make your life seem tolerable................not everybody does. I myself am quite happy with my life and need no reason to look for a light at the end of the tunnel..........

if this heaven stuff is so great.......and you believe in it with all your heart.......why wait? Jump in front of a bus today. Buy a shotgun and go buck wild. Do something. If you believe it's a sure thing........bet your life on it. Why wait 60 more years to get into this popping club?.......you've got free admission any time you want.

your idiotic 15 year old ramblings are laughable at best.......the logic used therein. You're like chibi boy. "Nothing can exist through evolution......changes over time.....organsims becoming more complex organisms. Everything in existence must be created by something....a god." okay.......so everything has to be created by something, nothing just happens without a divine creator.......who created god, who's god's god? "god wasn't created, he's always been here"........yet everything is created by a divine creator..............okay kid.

i am getting really sick of your talking all "I AM GOD!" You are lucky enough to even be alive.

Chibi boy? CHiBi was a famous battle out of romance of the three kingdoms

Originally posted by Evil Dead
back?

I'm always around man........I hit up the GD, Philosophy and Horror flick forums too......aswell as miscellanious forums I browse while I'm bored.

Originally posted by Clone-Commander
Simple. God always was. Hed have to be a god to of been here forever. Or he would have died of boredom. (joke) Anyways, who created the universe? What is the universe? How can you of reached the universe if it is not there? Is there a universe? What is the definition of universe? How can tehre be a definition of universe if the universe is not of the universe which cannot be unless with the help of the almighty god? I am not saying he does not exist, I am saying that for you to be here, complaining why you are better than god is moree of a miracle than the earth being created, but the earth is a home for the sinner and god did not want us to be a sinner. You see, there would be no heaven or hell if it wasnt for adam and eve. They ate from the forbidden tree and god told them not to so they then created hell, which satan made his nice, comfy, warm home. But god sent Satan to tempt them so they could live in heaven. Thee is an opposite of everything and that is also why nothing is the same as another. i am getting really sick of your talking all "I AM GOD!" You are lucky enough to even be alive. Lets say we were god. People were ants. You cannot make the ants move where you want them to. But the ants may move there on thier own. You cannot stop an ant from dying, but you can make thier memories of where the were sweet. You can do everything possible to make them happy but they never will because there is always more, more, more. Without heaven we would be wondering wherther payday would come soon enough for the money needed to pay off a loan. Or even wonder when you will die, and you never will, as to teh fact that you never live in the first place.

though some explanations are silly, its more convienient for most to have facts and data, than "just because"

Therefore religon and science can be oil and water...